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This is looking really good, those graphics are incredible. I haven't really been interested in the series since the last game I played, which was Black Ops 2, so I am looking forward to giving this one a try so I went ahead and pre-ordered it today. Now I just get to wait!

And also allready full of lootboxes and an exclusive legacy gamemode for a year only for ps4

Amazing how this franchise manages to shoot itself in the foot even with going back to arguably the best game in the entire franchise.

You are talking about Actibliz, did you honestly expect that to not happen?

RIP, Call of Duty

I will remember the finest times, be it a bomb rain in Stalingrad, trip to Prypiat, Task Force 141 or in space with Ethan.

Now please don't disturb the dead.

Not Online!!! wrote:
And also allready full of lootboxes and an exclusive legacy gamemode for a year only for ps4

Neither of which I will care for. I only like the campaigns in these games.

I think it was either Jim or another YTer that made the assertion:

By 2025 there will be no more purely single player experiences, because it's a total waste of money for devs.

I guess Witcher 3 was the most successful single-player game in the last I guess, 3 years? Is that right? And even that had to go with Day one DLC because the cost of doing business. Which I am fine with. *IF* I get a Witcher 3 level game out of it each time.

Unfortunately in the future, outside of maybe CD Project Red, you won't see major devs going with Massively Single Player Experiences.

The days of Elder Scrolls are gone. The days of Fallout are gone. I honestly wonder what the future of even trying to be an Indie dev is.

 Togusa wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
And also allready full of lootboxes and an exclusive legacy gamemode for a year only for ps4

Neither of which I will care for. I only like the campaigns in these games.

It has a campaign?

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
And also allready full of lootboxes and an exclusive legacy gamemode for a year only for ps4

Neither of which I will care for. I only like the campaigns in these games.

It has a campaign?

Yes, this one has a full campaign. That's what the above trailer is for.


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 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I think it was either Jim or another YTer that made the assertion:

By 2025 there will be no more purely single player experiences, because it's a total waste of money for devs.

I guess Witcher 3 was the most successful single-player game in the last I guess, 3 years? Is that right? And even that had to go with Day one DLC because the cost of doing business. Which I am fine with. *IF* I get a Witcher 3 level game out of it each time.

Unfortunately in the future, outside of maybe CD Project Red, you won't see major devs going with Massively Single Player Experiences.

The days of Elder Scrolls are gone. The days of Fallout are gone. I honestly wonder what the future of even trying to be an Indie dev is.

Jim Overreacts a lot. I highly doubt that this will be the case, there are many single player games that have done extremely well over the last few years. TES and Fallout are both alive and well and aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

Alive and Well? What are you on about?

ES is now ES: Blades, and Fallout is 76. THAT is what they are now. Hollow and vapid pay-to-win online services that in no way reflect their story-first original gameplay roots.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Alive and Well? What are you on about?

ES is now ES: Blades, and Fallout is 76. THAT is what they are now. Hollow and vapid pay-to-win online services that in no way reflect their story-first original gameplay roots.

Granted bethesda can't write a good story and or Programm their way out off a wet paperbag since Fallout 4 but still.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Alive and Well? What are you on about?

ES is now ES: Blades, and Fallout is 76. THAT is what they are now. Hollow and vapid pay-to-win online services that in no way reflect their story-first original gameplay roots.

Those are spinoff games that Bethesda was trying to use to break into the MMO/F2P market. Those aren't main game titles, they're not replacing the single player games Bethesda is known for. They weren't even produced by the main studio, a side project given to their texas based studio C- team.

We know TES6 is coming, Starfield is 100% single player and FO5 will be around in a few years. FO4, Skyrim still see massive amounts of players.

Skyrim: https://steamcharts.com/app/72850
FO4: https://steamcharts.com/app/377160
Borderlands 2: https://steamcharts.com/app/49520
Monster Hunter World: https://steamcharts.com/app/582010

Single Player games aren't going anywhere.

Skyrim was 2013 and has been re-released more times than the Bible. FO4 was 2015 and mostly crap. BL2 was 2012, and it was primarily a co-op shooter, with emphasis on the co-op. Monster Hunter world is the same thing, but released in 2018. It is a co-op Shooter. These are all also heavily infested with micro-transactions.

What I am talking about are games like:

Witcher Series
Last of Us
Spiderman
Horizon Zero Dawn (Old but still)

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Skyrim was 2013 and has been re-released more times than the Bible. FO4 was 2015 and mostly crap. BL2 was 2012, and it was primarily a co-op shooter, with emphasis on the co-op. Monster Hunter world is the same thing, but released in 2018. It is a co-op Shooter. These are all also heavily infested with micro-transactions.

What I am talking about are games like:

Witcher Series
Last of Us
Spiderman
Horizon Zero Dawn (Old but still)

perhaps look to nintendo?
i dont know the switch library but dont it have a fair decent amount of 1p games?

 FrozenDwarf wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Skyrim was 2013 and has been re-released more times than the Bible. FO4 was 2015 and mostly crap. BL2 was 2012, and it was primarily a co-op shooter, with emphasis on the co-op. Monster Hunter world is the same thing, but released in 2018. It is a co-op Shooter. These are all also heavily infested with micro-transactions.

What I am talking about are games like:

Witcher Series
Last of Us
Spiderman
Horizon Zero Dawn (Old but still)

perhaps look to nintendo?
i dont know the switch library but dont it have a fair decent amount of 1p games?

just stay far away from their mobile output.

Well, with a child on the way, and I JUST bought Witcher 3, and Cyber Punk 2099 coming out next year, I am likely done with video games for the next, I dunno, 20 years.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Skyrim was 2013 and has been re-released more times than the Bible. FO4 was 2015 and mostly crap. BL2 was 2012, and it was primarily a co-op shooter, with emphasis on the co-op. Monster Hunter world is the same thing, but released in 2018. It is a co-op Shooter. These are all also heavily infested with micro-transactions.

What I am talking about are games like:

Witcher Series
Last of Us
Spiderman
Horizon Zero Dawn (Old but still)

Borderlands 2 &3 have full single player support. No need to use the coop feature. FO4 was a great game, but that's the difference in mine and your opinions. Again, I play MHW and never use the coop stuff, fully single player.

You're getting the Last of Us 2, Spiderman and God Of War, a fully single player game was one of the most bought games of all time. Resident evil 2 remake, Final Fantasy 7 remake all will likely shatter records. There is zero evidence that single player games will go anywhere.

Furthermore, we have Death Stranding coming down the line which will no doubt follow in MGS V's footsteps and smash all kinds of records. COD reintroducing a single player campaign also is sort of telling considering BO4 last year abandoned any type of single player content, and sold far less than the previous games because of it. I'm sure there will be another Horizon game too. Chill with the doomsday "ItS aLl GoNnA Be FoRtNiTe, SiNgLe PlAyEr iS dEaD" stuff.

FO4 was a great game, but that's the difference in mine and your opinions.

Yeah if you have never played any other Fallout.

Not Online!!! wrote:

FO4 was a great game, but that's the difference in mine and your opinions.

Yeah if you have never played any other Fallout.

I've played them all + Wasteland. There is nothing at all wrong with FO4, it has an amazing amount of depth and a great story, that just needs a few tweaks to be perfect.

 Togusa wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

FO4 was a great game, but that's the difference in mine and your opinions.

Yeah if you have never played any other Fallout.

I've played them all + Wasteland. There is nothing at all wrong with FO4, it has an amazing amount of depth and a great story, that just needs a few tweaks to be perfect.

Disagree, Fallout 4 lacks the morale greyity and depth for all factions.
Especially in regards to the gunnners.

99% of gameplay choices in FO4 is choosing who to shoot. That is it. It's a murder sim. There isn't even a morality system. Fallout 1 had you literally hunted or shunned from towns if you had bad morality.

The game had radically different divergent paths that lead to multiple endings. In FO4, nothing you do actually matters. And the quests....aaarrgg gaaawd. "I heard about a new settlement that...." *Shoots Preston in the face repeatedly** It's stupid fetch quest filler played off as "Interesting game play".

I honestly don't understand how some people shill so hard for companies that have proven multiple times they don't care about them.

I'm not any better, sitting on forums bitching. But at least I'm not arguing why you SHOULD spend 60-250 dollars on buggy broken messes that are launched half baked and when you ask for a refund you get spit in the face.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Well, with a child on the way, and I JUST bought Witcher 3, and Cyber Punk 2099 coming out next year, I am likely done with video games for the next, I dunno, 20 years.

Get a Switch. That's been my only real solution.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
99% of gameplay choices in FO4 is choosing who to shoot. That is it. It's a murder sim. There isn't even a morality system. Fallout 1 had you literally hunted or shunned from towns if you had bad morality.

The game had radically different divergent paths that lead to multiple endings. In FO4, nothing you do actually matters. And the quests....aaarrgg gaaawd. "I heard about a new settlement that...." *Shoots Preston in the face repeatedly** It's stupid fetch quest filler played off as "Interesting game play".

I honestly don't understand how some people shill so hard for companies that have proven multiple times they don't care about them.

I'm not any better, sitting on forums bitching. But at least I'm not arguing why you SHOULD spend 60-250 dollars on buggy broken messes that are launched half baked and when you ask for a refund you get spit in the face.

I'm telling you all my opinion, on a game I have over 800 hours play time in. I like the game. You do not have to.

 Togusa wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
99% of gameplay choices in FO4 is choosing who to shoot. That is it. It's a murder sim. There isn't even a morality system. Fallout 1 had you literally hunted or shunned from towns if you had bad morality.

The game had radically different divergent paths that lead to multiple endings. In FO4, nothing you do actually matters. And the quests....aaarrgg gaaawd. "I heard about a new settlement that...." *Shoots Preston in the face repeatedly** It's stupid fetch quest filler played off as "Interesting game play".

I honestly don't understand how some people shill so hard for companies that have proven multiple times they don't care about them.

I'm not any better, sitting on forums bitching. But at least I'm not arguing why you SHOULD spend 60-250 dollars on buggy broken messes that are launched half baked and when you ask for a refund you get spit in the face.

I'm telling you all my opinion, on a game I have over 800 hours play time in. I like the game. You do not have to.

FO4 is in spite of the glaring quality issues a decent game, until creation club showed up.
FO4 Is just not a good Fallout game story wisey which is the main mechanic in an RPG.

 Togusa wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
99% of gameplay choices in FO4 is choosing who to shoot. That is it. It's a murder sim. There isn't even a morality system. Fallout 1 had you literally hunted or shunned from towns if you had bad morality.

The game had radically different divergent paths that lead to multiple endings. In FO4, nothing you do actually matters. And the quests....aaarrgg gaaawd. "I heard about a new settlement that...." *Shoots Preston in the face repeatedly** It's stupid fetch quest filler played off as "Interesting game play".

I honestly don't understand how some people shill so hard for companies that have proven multiple times they don't care about them.

I'm not any better, sitting on forums bitching. But at least I'm not arguing why you SHOULD spend 60-250 dollars on buggy broken messes that are launched half baked and when you ask for a refund you get spit in the face.

I'm telling you all my opinion, on a game I have over 800 hours play time in. I like the game. You do not have to.

Enough said, sorry for going all in. I respect that you enjoyed the game, and got a lot out of it. Being from Maine I felt the Far Harbor DLC.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
99% of gameplay choices in FO4 is choosing who to shoot. That is it. It's a murder sim. There isn't even a morality system. Fallout 1 had you literally hunted or shunned from towns if you had bad morality.

The game had radically different divergent paths that lead to multiple endings. In FO4, nothing you do actually matters. And the quests....aaarrgg gaaawd. "I heard about a new settlement that...." *Shoots Preston in the face repeatedly** It's stupid fetch quest filler played off as "Interesting game play".

I honestly don't understand how some people shill so hard for companies that have proven multiple times they don't care about them.

I'm not any better, sitting on forums bitching. But at least I'm not arguing why you SHOULD spend 60-250 dollars on buggy broken messes that are launched half baked and when you ask for a refund you get spit in the face.

I'm telling you all my opinion, on a game I have over 800 hours play time in. I like the game. You do not have to.

Enough said, sorry for going all in. I respect that you enjoyed the game, and got a lot out of it. Being from Maine I felt the Far Harbor DLC.

Far Harbor was great. It was definitely a better story than the main quest-line story for the base game, no doubt. New Vegas is my favorite game!


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Not Online!!! wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
99% of gameplay choices in FO4 is choosing who to shoot. That is it. It's a murder sim. There isn't even a morality system. Fallout 1 had you literally hunted or shunned from towns if you had bad morality.

The game had radically different divergent paths that lead to multiple endings. In FO4, nothing you do actually matters. And the quests....aaarrgg gaaawd. "I heard about a new settlement that...." *Shoots Preston in the face repeatedly** It's stupid fetch quest filler played off as "Interesting game play".

I honestly don't understand how some people shill so hard for companies that have proven multiple times they don't care about them.

I'm not any better, sitting on forums bitching. But at least I'm not arguing why you SHOULD spend 60-250 dollars on buggy broken messes that are launched half baked and when you ask for a refund you get spit in the face.

I'm telling you all my opinion, on a game I have over 800 hours play time in. I like the game. You do not have to.

FO4 is in spite of the glaring quality issues a decent game, until creation club showed up.
FO4 Is just not a good Fallout game story wisey which is the main mechanic in an RPG.

I dunno, I like the CC. I use it in both Skyrim and FO4 because it's extra content that doesn't require me to fiddle with mods and the script extender.

Are you on Console then?

Btw far harbour is great, it's what the rest of the game should've been.

Alas.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Are you on Console then?

Btw far harbour is great, it's what the rest of the game should've been.

Alas.

I have it for PC. I also really enjoyed Nuka World too.

 Togusa wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Are you on Console then?

Btw far harbour is great, it's what the rest of the game should've been.

Alas.

I have it for PC. I also really enjoyed Nuka World too.

Not so happy with nuka world, mostly because it badly ties in with the common wealth, and thanks to Bugthesda deciding that you need to run a minutemen campaign first to get enough villages up and running for the latter part makes it somewhat wierd.

Altough the gangs are great imo.
But i'd still wanted the gunners to be a joinable faction.

I, for one, am looking forward to CoD:MW reboot although it may take some getting used given they have recast the character voice to a different actor. I only ever play the CoD games for the single player, hence why I didn't buy Black Ops 4 this time round and I actually enjoyed the Modern Warfare single player story arc, as hokey as it was.