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Then how come we never once got a Warboss model with Mega Armour without taking Ghazzy? How is my Bad Moon supposed to show off his flash? And you can't count as Ghazzy because of his klan and thus you wouldn't benefit from klan kultures. Oh, I haven't played 40k since 5th edition so I'm just getting back in. This new codex seems cool in some places and just total chunks in others. If you could release a bunch of new vehicles on Orktober how come we couldn't get another Warboss model so that we at least have rules. Man I'm frustrated. I highly doubt saga of the beast will address any of this so oh well I guess.

no new model, no new rules.

 Sovspot wrote:
Then how come we never once got a Warboss model with Mega Armour without taking Ghazzy? How is my Bad Moon supposed to show off his flash? And you can't count as Ghazzy because of his klan and thus you wouldn't benefit from klan kultures. Oh, I haven't played 40k since 5th edition so I'm just getting back in. This new codex seems cool in some places and just total chunks in others. If you could release a bunch of new vehicles on Orktober how come we couldn't get another Warboss model so that we at least have rules. Man I'm frustrated. I highly saga of the beast will address any of this so oh well I guess.

Wait, can you not run a Warboss in Mega Armor?!

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Sovspot wrote:
Then how come we never once got a Warboss model with Mega Armour without taking Ghazzy? How is my Bad Moon supposed to show off his flash? And you can't count as Ghazzy because of his klan and thus you wouldn't benefit from klan kultures. Oh, I haven't played 40k since 5th edition so I'm just getting back in. This new codex seems cool in some places and just total chunks in others. If you could release a bunch of new vehicles on Orktober how come we couldn't get another Warboss model so that we at least have rules. Man I'm frustrated. I highly saga of the beast will address any of this so oh well I guess.

Wait, can you not run a Warboss in Mega Armor?!

No.

 Sovspot wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Sovspot wrote:
Then how come we never once got a Warboss model with Mega Armour without taking Ghazzy? How is my Bad Moon supposed to show off his flash? And you can't count as Ghazzy because of his klan and thus you wouldn't benefit from klan kultures. Oh, I haven't played 40k since 5th edition so I'm just getting back in. This new codex seems cool in some places and just total chunks in others. If you could release a bunch of new vehicles on Orktober how come we couldn't get another Warboss model so that we at least have rules. Man I'm frustrated. I highly saga of the beast will address any of this so oh well I guess.

Wait, can you not run a Warboss in Mega Armor?!

No.

That is BS.

Uber BS.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Sovspot wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Sovspot wrote:
Then how come we never once got a Warboss model with Mega Armour without taking Ghazzy? How is my Bad Moon supposed to show off his flash? And you can't count as Ghazzy because of his klan and thus you wouldn't benefit from klan kultures. Oh, I haven't played 40k since 5th edition so I'm just getting back in. This new codex seems cool in some places and just total chunks in others. If you could release a bunch of new vehicles on Orktober how come we couldn't get another Warboss model so that we at least have rules. Man I'm frustrated. I highly saga of the beast will address any of this so oh well I guess.

Wait, can you not run a Warboss in Mega Armor?!

No.

That is BS.

Uber BS.

So I need to find some loophole to make everything work, it's not the only thing gone. Looted wagons being only allowed in open play blows too.

Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

Orks without a Mega Armored Warboss or a Looted Wagon is a crime.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

Ghazkull?

Here you go, Warboss in mega armor:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Ork-Orks-Bad-Moon-Mega-Armored-Warboss-Nazdreg-oop-metal/402040515589?hash=item5d9b7b6c05:g:v0EAAOSwCDxeIfJz

Nobody ever said your model had to made in this century.

 Ginjitzu wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

Ghazkull?

Ghazghkull is Ghazghkull, not MA Warboss.

ccs wrote:
Here you go, Warboss in mega armor:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Ork-Orks-Bad-Moon-Mega-Armored-Warboss-Nazdreg-oop-metal/402040515589?hash=item5d9b7b6c05:g:v0EAAOSwCDxeIfJz

Nobody ever said your model had to made in this century.

Nazdreg is Nazdreg, not MA Warboss.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

None, hence why it's in legends, or convert one.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

It's frustrating that you can build a Big Mek in Mega Armour from the Meganobz box, but not a Warboss.

I doubt very much it'll happen but it'd be nice if GW killed two birds with one stone and made the Ghaz box one that could assmble a standard WBWMA

Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

You're an ork player, just smash one together ;-)

But seriously, you could slightly modify a Gaz model, new one is out soon so the old one will be nicely different. There is a meganobz kit that can easily be used to make one. I've seen some great versions made from the Necromunda "Ambot" kit - these are plastic and look great with just a simple ork headswap. Other options are to convert something from the Ironjaws AOS line, again not much work needed. Many options, your limit is your imagination....

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

Marines have twice as many dataslates in legends as Orks do.

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

This sentiment always bugs me, you do realise NPC stands for non-playable character right? So you're basically saying you want them to market it as a single player game where it's space marines vs an imaginary/simulated opponent, moreover that could comically allow them to make wayyyyyy more interesting and diverse xenos since they'd be mandatory purchases for every player.

Dudeface wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

This sentiment always bugs me, you do realise NPC stands for non-playable character right? So you're basically saying you want them to market it as a single player game where it's space marines vs an imaginary/simulated opponent, moreover that could comically allow them to make wayyyyyy more interesting and diverse xenos since they'd be mandatory purchases for every player.

the idea of saying non imperium are "NPCs" is the feeling that they exist mostly to be rolled over by the "good guys" they're not being literal perhaps but it's close eneugh you can understand what they mean

BrianDavion wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

Marines have twice as many dataslates in legends as Orks do.

That's because marines have twice as many dataslates as anyone else.

BrianDavion wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

This sentiment always bugs me, you do realise NPC stands for non-playable character right? So you're basically saying you want them to market it as a single player game where it's space marines vs an imaginary/simulated opponent, moreover that could comically allow them to make wayyyyyy more interesting and diverse xenos since they'd be mandatory purchases for every player.

the idea of saying non imperium are "NPCs" is the feeling that they exist mostly to be rolled over by the "good guys" they're not being literal perhaps but it's close eneugh you can understand what they mean

Then it's a poorly applied term, generic mooks, faceless grunts, push over bad guys or underpowered trash designed to lose would all be better terms than NPC.

Edit: not that I agree with the sentiment, just that it would be worded better.

As said above, there is a Legends Warboss in MA datasheet, but currently none in the actual Codex.

Similarly, it's a great shame that there isn't both a new model and new rules for a MA Warboss, because it makes so much more sense than a MA Mek.

Wrong thread

 WisdomLS wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 WisdomLS wrote:
Various units ( like the warboss in mega armour) that gw dont make models for have been moved to warhammer legends.

Each race has a free pdf of their site, go download it and get using that warboss

What model does the player use? There is no MA Warboss model.

You're an ork player, just smash one together ;-)

But seriously, you could slightly modify a Gaz model, new one is out soon so the old one will be nicely different. There is a meganobz kit that can easily be used to make one. I've seen some great versions made from the Necromunda "Ambot" kit - these are plastic and look great with just a simple ork headswap. Other options are to convert something from the Ironjaws AOS line, again not much work needed. Many options, your limit is your imagination....

Couldn't agree more, one of the big selling points of Orks is that they are conversion friendly! After all, all Ork stuff looks cobbled together :-p
Now we just need to get the suits at GW on board...

Dudeface wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

This sentiment always bugs me, you do realise NPC stands for non-playable character right? So you're basically saying you want them to market it as a single player game where it's space marines vs an imaginary/simulated opponent, moreover that could comically allow them to make wayyyyyy more interesting and diverse xenos since they'd be mandatory purchases for every player.

I'm not saying it's what I want, I'm saying it's the direction GW has been going. And if they had a shred of honesty then they'd openly tell their customers that certain factions are seen as nothing mre than shipping-boys for SMs, and thus can expect far fewer releases.

easy money always beats out risky money. If they invest, not even that much, in to a new xeno model line and it doesn't sell people at the company could get in trouble. A new primaris Lt, is always going to sell well, at worse they just put him as an obligatory HQ in a star collecting or some other big box.
Plus more people would buy them, only person that may never buy a primaris Lt is, maybe a GK player, maybe a chaos marine player. An orc commando boss, or eldar warlock, will only be bought by that one faction player, and maybe not even that. Maybe the orc players don't want this or that weapon, maybe the only warlock being run is not a footslogger, but one on jetbike.

It is like in sports, everyone would rather have an easy group or easy opponent, and not end up in some sort of death basket, that looks like finals, but is actualy the preliminary stage of an event.

Dudeface wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

This sentiment always bugs me, you do realise NPC stands for non-playable character right? So you're basically saying you want them to market it as a single player game where it's space marines vs an imaginary/simulated opponent, moreover that could comically allow them to make wayyyyyy more interesting and diverse xenos since they'd be mandatory purchases for every player.

the idea of saying non imperium are "NPCs" is the feeling that they exist mostly to be rolled over by the "good guys" they're not being literal perhaps but it's close eneugh you can understand what they mean

Then it's a poorly applied term, generic mooks, faceless grunts, push over bad guys or underpowered trash designed to lose would all be better terms than NPC.

Edit: not that I agree with the sentiment, just that it would be worded better.

Except every one of those multi-word statements you used is just another way of saying NPC.
You're having a issue with the fact that the phrase literally means not controlled by a player and it's being used to refer to an army that is very obviously being controlled by a player. Think past that literal though and think of what it means.
It evokes the idea that your army is not actually under your control. Your options & model ranges are so limited that every Xenos army looks and plays the same way. Removing your agency.
It evokes the sentiment that the Xenos races may be underrepresented in the lore making them feel 1 dimensional.

Imagine a video game where you could choose to be a Knight/wizard/archer/berzerker etc and travel the land slaying monsters collecting treasure etc. Or you could be a villager. You control the villager character and everything they do - but - you can only walk from your bed to your kitchen table or to your front step and you can only talk if another character walks past you BUT you can choose to say "Good morning!" OR "There seems to be more Wugrat attacks these days". The villager is technically a character in the game controlled by a person - but everyone would agree that they were an NPC.

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Sounds like Orks got the Dark Eldar treatment.

Perhaps at some point GW will begin to market 40k with a shred of honesty as the 'Space Marines and their NPC enemies' game.

This sentiment always bugs me, you do realise NPC stands for non-playable character right? So you're basically saying you want them to market it as a single player game where it's space marines vs an imaginary/simulated opponent, moreover that could comically allow them to make wayyyyyy more interesting and diverse xenos since they'd be mandatory purchases for every player.

the idea of saying non imperium are "NPCs" is the feeling that they exist mostly to be rolled over by the "good guys" they're not being literal perhaps but it's close eneugh you can understand what they mean

Then it's a poorly applied term, generic mooks, faceless grunts, push over bad guys or underpowered trash designed to lose would all be better terms than NPC.

Edit: not that I agree with the sentiment, just that it would be worded better.

Except every one of those multi-word statements you used is just another way of saying NPC.
You're having a issue with the fact that the phrase literally means not controlled by a player and it's being used to refer to an army that is very obviously being controlled by a player. Think past that literal though and think of what it means.
It evokes the idea that your army is not actually under your control. Your options & model ranges are so limited that every Xenos army looks and plays the same way. Removing your agency.
It evokes the sentiment that the Xenos races may be underrepresented in the lore making them feel 1 dimensional.

Imagine a video game where you could choose to be a Knight/wizard/archer/berzerker etc and travel the land slaying monsters collecting treasure etc. Or you could be a villager. You control the villager character and everything they do - but - you can only walk from your bed to your kitchen table or to your front step and you can only talk if another character walks past you BUT you can choose to say "Good morning!" OR "There seems to be more Wugrat attacks these days". The villager is technically a character in the game controlled by a person - but everyone would agree that they were an NPC.

Sorry but you open by acknowledging it's an incorrectly used term that people use, but xenos factions aren't that hard done to. People are flinging npc around to epitomise their feelings of "but marines get more, where is my stuff", so I'm still not a fan of people coining the term.

Either way that's a personal opinion and off topic so I'll shush.

 Sovspot wrote:
Then how come we never once got a Warboss model with Mega Armour without taking Ghazzy? How is my Bad Moon supposed to show off his flash? And you can't count as Ghazzy because of his klan and thus you wouldn't benefit from klan kultures. Oh, I haven't played 40k since 5th edition so I'm just getting back in. This new codex seems cool in some places and just total chunks in others. If you could release a bunch of new vehicles on Orktober how come we couldn't get another Warboss model so that we at least have rules. Man I'm frustrated. I highly doubt saga of the beast will address any of this so oh well I guess.

I bought Ghazzy and painted him in Bad Moonz colours. Problem solved.