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Just want to verify his Avatar of Grimnir rule regarding mortal wounds. Were he to be hit with a spell that does 3 mortal wounds, it gets reduced to 1 mortal wound? Thanks

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Yes. Even if those 3 damage were caused by separate parts of the spell effect, the spell as a whole can only do a maximum of 1 mortal wound to Gotrek for a given cast.
   
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 Stux wrote:
Yes. Even if those 3 damage were caused by separate parts of the spell effect, the spell as a whole can only do a maximum of 1 mortal wound to Gotrek for a given cast.
Wait, are you saying that something like a Huskard's ability "Blasts of Frost-wreathed Ice" wouldn't ever do more than 1 mortal wound? My understanding is because they are separate mortal wounds they would all go through, where as a spell/attack that does a flat 3 damage/mortal wounds gets reduced. For context here are the two abilities from the warscrolls.
Blasts of Frost-wreathed Ice:
Do not use the attack sequence for an attack made with Frost-wreathed Ice. Instead, pick 1 enemy unit within 18" of this model that is visible to it and roll the number of dice shown on the damage table above. Add 1 to each roll if the target unit has 10 or ore models. Add 2 to each roll instead if the target unit has 20 or more models. For each 6+, that enemy unit suffers 1 mortal wound.

Avatar of Grimnir:
If the damage inflicted by an attack, spell or ability that targets or affects this model is greater than 1, change it to 1. In addition, if a spell or ability would slay this model, this model suffers 1 mortal wound instead. However, if this model is included in your army, it cannot be set up in reserve (it must be set up on the battlefield), and you cannot use spells or abilities on this model that would allow you to set it up again after the battle has begun.



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Blasts of the Frost is just one spell. The dice are all rolled at the same time and are all linked to that one spell. It's very clear cut, no matter how many dice (with the modifers) hit 6+, it can only deal 1 Mortal Wound to Gotrek.

   
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 Overread wrote:
Blasts of the Frost is just one spell. The dice are all rolled at the same time and are all linked to that one spell. It's very clear cut, no matter how many dice (with the modifers) hit 6+, it can only deal 1 Mortal Wound to Gotrek.


Agreed, seems very clear to me.

A given spell cannot do more than 1 mortal wound.

Also, mortal wounds are always separate. If a spell does 3 mortal wounds, that's 3 separate mortal wounds that are dealt with one by one. Not a single 3 damage mortal wound. This is why abilities that halve damage dont effect mortal wounds.
   
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Technically spells/abilities inflicting MWs do not have a damage characteristic and thus Avatar of Grimnir does not apply. But the non-TFG use would be that each instance of an attack/ability/spell can only cause Gotrek to lose one wound maximum.

Which somewhat ironically means the skaven on his base are among few which are good at killing him.

Consider; Games Workshop rules not so much games but as toolboxes for players to craft an experience from, and open/narrative/matched play just examples of how things can be put together. 
   
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Blasts of Frost-wreathed Ice is not a spell, its an ability.

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 Stux wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Blasts of the Frost is just one spell. The dice are all rolled at the same time and are all linked to that one spell. It's very clear cut, no matter how many dice (with the modifers) hit 6+, it can only deal 1 Mortal Wound to Gotrek.


Agreed, seems very clear to me.

A given spell cannot do more than 1 mortal wound.

Also, mortal wounds are always separate. If a spell does 3 mortal wounds, that's 3 separate mortal wounds that are dealt with one by one. Not a single 3 damage mortal wound. This is why abilities that halve damage dont effect mortal wounds.

It thought that was how 40k treated them but not how AoS does.

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 Amishprn86 wrote:
Blasts of Frost-wreathed Ice is not a spell, its an ability.
And...? I must be missing your point.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:
Blasts of Frost-wreathed Ice is not a spell, its an ability.
And...? I must be missing your point.


People kept saying its a spell

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 Amishprn86 wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:
Blasts of Frost-wreathed Ice is not a spell, its an ability.
And...? I must be missing your point.


People kept saying its a spell


Yeah that's fair. Because of the wording of Gotrek's ability it makes no functional difference, the outcome is the same.

But Blasts of Ice is an ability. That can do a max of 1 mortal wound total to Gotrek
   
 
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