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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 09:55:52
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Have I missed it or are we still waiting to find out who ends up with the Supreme Commander keyword being added?
I would have expected that to have been part of the recent FAQs so can we expect another set of FAQs to come with the release?
I can't help but feel the FAQs seem incomplete with only some factions receiving new army traits like tallarn but not death guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 10:12:44
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Agile Revenant Titan
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I haven't seen it. I suspect to see that keyword in future codex releases, such as Necrons.
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No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 10:23:10
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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I seem to have missed the article talking about this new key word. What is it exactly?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 10:29:34
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
Bamberg / Erlangen
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OP is talking about the "Supreme Command Detachment" which does not cost any CP, but you can only take certain individuals with the keywords PRIMARCH, DAEMON PRIMARCH or SUPREME COMMANDER to fill it's single slot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 12:45:29
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Likely something that is handled in new codexes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 12:46:37
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I suspeeeeect the silent king is gonna get this for necrons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 12:57:23
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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So the whole point of the detachment is to let you take Lords of War who are supposed to be army leaders without it costing you extra CP, provided they are your warlord.
The fact is there aren't many obvious leader Lords of War, and the most obvious ones are already covered by the PRIMARCH and DAEMON PRIMARCH keywords anyway.
There aren't really any other core GW right now I can think of off the top of my head... anyone else?
Might just be there's nothing to announce!
Presumably Silent King will get it. And maybe the giant Greater Daemons that forgeworld make - but we're expecting new books for all that anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 13:02:13
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Norn Queen
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swarmlord
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 13:11:00
Subject: Re:Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It allows you to take 1 LoW or 1HQ with the appropriate keyword.
Esentially it allows you to take an additional HQ/LOW without tax units or CP cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 13:26:51
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Zarakynel. An Exalted Keeper of Secrets should be higher ranking than a regular Keeper of Secrets, but she's a LOW.
Fortunately, she can still be your warlord.
The other Exalteds (the real ones, not the flimsy excuse for an exalted the Stratagem gives you) as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 13:35:33
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ghaz and Shadowsun are prime contenders. Maaaaaaaaybe Farsight, though that may just be wishlisting on my part.
Eldrad is another.
Vect would be the obvious choice for Drukhari, but well...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 14:13:34
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Stux wrote:So the whole point of the detachment is to let you take Lords of War who are supposed to be army leaders without it costing you extra CP, provided they are your warlord.
The fact is there aren't many obvious leader Lords of War, and the most obvious ones are already covered by the PRIMARCH and DAEMON PRIMARCH keywords anyway.
There aren't really any other core GW right now I can think of off the top of my head... anyone else?
Might just be there's nothing to announce!
Presumably Silent King will get it. And maybe the giant Greater Daemons that forgeworld make - but we're expecting new books for all that anyway.
I'm personally hoping the FW named greater daemons get this new keyword.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 14:25:41
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Sterling191 wrote:Ghaz and Shadowsun are prime contenders. Maaaaaaaaybe Farsight, though that may just be wishlisting on my part.
Eldrad is another.
Vect would be the obvious choice for Drukhari, but well...
The greatest trick Vect ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't have a model in-game....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 14:26:07
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I doubt we'll see who has this in any FAQ's as it looks like they have only changed things which make a choice pointless (eg the Tallarn regiment rules) but not something that is now a generic rule (eg no replacement for POTMS yet).
We probably will only see who gets this rule once the new codexes hit. Other then named characters we might get a few more generic units as well. I can see Watchmasters, Shield Captains or Chapter Masters getting the rule (maybe as part of a strategy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 14:35:35
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ScarVet101 wrote:I doubt we'll see who has this in any FAQ's as it looks like they have only changed things which make a choice pointless (eg the Tallarn regiment rules) but not something that is now a generic rule (eg no replacement for POTMS yet).
We probably will only see who gets this rule once the new codexes hit. Other then named characters we might get a few more generic units as well. I can see Watchmasters, Shield Captains or Chapter Masters getting the rule (maybe as part of a strategy)
Just NO, HELL no Marines don't need an even more powerful auto take CM strategum than the brokenness they already have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 14:50:44
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sterling191 wrote:Ghaz and Shadowsun are prime contenders. Maaaaaaaaybe Farsight, though that may just be wishlisting on my part.
Eldrad is another.
Vect would be the obvious choice for Drukhari, but well...
I'd love Farsight to get it. Bringing The Eight as a Supreme Command is way better than costing 3CP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 16:50:29
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Unit1126PLL wrote:Zarakynel. An Exalted Keeper of Secrets should be higher ranking than a regular Keeper of Secrets, but she's a LOW.
Fortunately, she can still be your warlord.
The other Exalteds (the real ones, not the flimsy excuse for an exalted the Stratagem gives you) as well.
Yes, but they will have to fix their ridiculous "fluffy" points costs first. Zarakynel isn't too bad, but the others are outrageous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 17:03:42
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Shadowsun has a rule on her datasheet that's literally called "Supreme Commander".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 17:07:53
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Asmodai wrote:
Shadowsun has a rule on her datasheet that's literally called "Supreme Commander".
But does she have the Keyword?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 17:17:15
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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She does not. nothing in 8th has it. It will need to be introduced via updates in 9th.
Asmodai wrote:
Shadowsun has a rule on her datasheet that's literally called "Supreme Commander".
Im well aware of this, and have in fact mentioned it multiple times in other discussions around this topic. It's part of why I'm quite convinced she'll get it at some point. The fact remains however, that the only models that can legally run in SCD at present are Guilliman, Mortarian and Magnus due to their Primarch/DPirmarch keywordage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 17:28:27
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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So I just spoke with my local GW store rep, and he said there is new lore dropping in the 9th book, concerning the Big E, Ghazkul, the Beast, and the crusade, and the Silent King, he says that for the first time in a long time, "GW is advancing the lore". I think we may see a new Supreme Commander on Terra.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 17:50:38
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If by long time he means last year when Vigilus continued to advance the lore since it started advancing in Fall of Cadia, sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 18:50:42
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gadzilla666 wrote: Unit1126PLL wrote:Zarakynel. An Exalted Keeper of Secrets should be higher ranking than a regular Keeper of Secrets, but she's a LOW.
Fortunately, she can still be your warlord.
The other Exalteds (the real ones, not the flimsy excuse for an exalted the Stratagem gives you) as well.
Yes, but they will have to fix their ridiculous "fluffy" points costs first. Zarakynel isn't too bad, but the others are outrageous.
Zarakynel is pretty terrible tbf.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 19:12:34
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:So I just spoke with my local GW store rep, and he said there is new lore dropping in the 9th book, concerning the Big E, Ghazkul, the Beast, and the crusade, and the Silent King, he says that for the first time in a long time, " GW is advancing the lore". I think we may see a new Supreme Commander on Terra.
Would be pretty sweet to have a Guard supreme commander of some sort, along with a model refresh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 19:21:08
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Battleship Captain
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Platuan4th wrote:Sterling191 wrote:Ghaz and Shadowsun are prime contenders. Maaaaaaaaybe Farsight, though that may just be wishlisting on my part.
Eldrad is another.
Vect would be the obvious choice for Drukhari, but well...
I'd love Farsight to get it. Bringing The Eight as a Supreme Command is way better than costing 3CP.
Technically they already can. The eight is nominally a SC detachment but ALREADY breaks the rules for the detachment (number of commanders, number of relics, etc) in 8th edition. So I see no reason it wouldn't ignore that restriction in 9th.
I suspect supreme commander would be very likely to go on 'faction bosses' who have a subfaction.
Abaddon is normally only useable in a BLACK LEGION force, or Ghazgkhull in a GOFF one, but both kind of play the role of 'effective faction leader'. Supreme Command lets you (for example) take a WORLD EATERS force and still have Lord Topknot in command.
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 19:26:20
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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locarno24 wrote:
Technically they already can. The eight is nominally a SC detachment but ALREADY breaks the rules for the detachment (number of commanders, number of relics, etc) in 8th edition. So I see no reason it wouldn't ignore that restriction in 9th.
I suspect supreme commander would be very likely to go on 'faction bosses' who have a subfaction.
Abaddon is normally only useable in a BLACK LEGION force, or Ghazgkhull in a GOFF one, but both kind of play the role of 'effective faction leader'. Supreme Command lets you (for example) take a WORLD EATERS force and still have Lord Topknot in command.
The Eight is a single Lord of War that has an additional CP cost applied to it (and precludes the use of specific strats from being used for the rest of the game). From a rules perspective, it's one unit that becomes separate models after deployment.
It never fit into a Supreme Command Detachment in 8th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 19:54:44
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Norn Queen
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GSC patriarchs would have to be their supreme commanders. There litterally is no commander higher in their structure.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 20:11:05
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Quasistellar wrote: FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:So I just spoke with my local GW store rep, and he said there is new lore dropping in the 9th book, concerning the Big E, Ghazkul, the Beast, and the crusade, and the Silent King, he says that for the first time in a long time, " GW is advancing the lore". I think we may see a new Supreme Commander on Terra.
Would be pretty sweet to have a Guard supreme commander of some sort, along with a model refresh.
No thanks...unless it's Creed getting sprung from his pokeball or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/17 20:20:18
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
Bamberg / Erlangen
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I would like to have our saviour the Lord Solar Macharius back. I know he is long dead in the current timeline, but he was one of my favourite models back in the day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/18 00:21:04
Subject: Supreme Commanders
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Repentia Mistress
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I could see Creed popping out Trazyns pokeball and being Supreme Commander of guard
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