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2020/07/23 17:11:25
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide - Secrets Of The Machine God coming 25-06-2024
Fight for the survival of hive Tertium in this visceral 4-player co-op action game set in the Warhammer 40,000 universe - developed by the creators of the popular Warhammer: Vermintide franchise.
Boy am I glad they went with regular humans as the characters.
A shame that likely means no VT3, I guess the extra content in the form of a 4th class will have to do.
I wonder if it'll get slammed for being a L4D clone? It's much closer to it than VT, with the main element seemingly being shooting and the enemies being zombies, or at least feral humanoids.
Vermintide is a great game, so looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
One thing I am a bit unsure of is who exactly you'll be playing as. The trailer shows 4 Guardsmen with different weapons...and I think if that's the case, it'll be quite a poor way to do it. If you're playing as guardsmen with different loadouts t, then there won't be the variety and character that Vermintide has with 4 vastly distinct personalities/features of its characters. Guardsmen just wouldn't have that variety if they're all Cadian-like like the trailer suggests.
But the store page artwork shows 4 characters who don't appear to be all basic guardsmen. 1 is a guardsmen, one seems to be an Ogryn, 1 a sniper and 1 a Priest/some sort of flamer user?
I was hoping you'd play as Inquisitorial Accolyptes/agents - more like INQ28 members where you can have all sorts of different things - than just elements of the Imperial Guard. That would allow far more unique stuff and customization and such.
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2020/07/23 20:16:54
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Everyone barring the Ogryn does seem to be Guard related...but even then, it's not really like an Inquisitorial angle is a bad call for using Guard equivalents.
2020/07/23 20:53:22
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
The four guardsmen in the trailer are the advance team sent to find out what was wrong in the lower have, and (likely) did not return.
The trailer reveals the location - a hive, and hints as to the OPFOR - Poxwalkers. It doesnt tell us who the characters are.
The characters appear be a selection of sub-assassin/sub-astartes level Imperial agents. I reckon the characters will be similar to that seen in Dark Heresy RPG, fairly low power and totally expendable.
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Mentlegen324 wrote: .
But the store page artwork shows 4 characters who don't appear to be all basic guardsmen. 1 is a guardsmen, one seems to be an Ogryn, 1 a sniper and 1 a Priest/some sort of flamer user?
I think the 'sniper' is a psyker and the 'sniper rifle barrel' is the end of this staff.
Priest (multi role), Ogryn (melee brute), Veteran Guardsman (short range firepower), Psyker (ranged AOE) sounds like a good feature balance. Sniper rifles sound cool, but I think if we get one the Veteran would use it. However Vermintide wasn't one for slow single target shooting, so I doubt Darktide will be either. Expect lasgun to start then graduating to grenade launcher, plasma or melta.
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2020/07/23 21:04:29
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Oh lord this is going to be awesome, I know it. I hope the characters will have as much personality as those in Vermintide, need myself a 40k Saltzpyre to banter with.
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2020/12/11 01:06:02
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
First gameplay peek. I looove the design they did on the two Guard.
Just saw this, looks just too damn cool.
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2020/12/11 02:34:47
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
So who's the dark-haired gal? A missionary/crusader of some type? She doesn't look Sororitas and doesn't look Guard. Is she possibly our first example of a Ministorum Priestess?
2020/12/11 04:12:26
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Hecaton wrote: So who's the dark-haired gal? A missionary/crusader of some type? She doesn't look Sororitas and doesn't look Guard. Is she possibly our first example of a Ministorum Priestess?
Definitely a Ministorum Priest based on her get-up. Hopefully she has access to an eviscerator as one of the weapons options down the line in the game.
2020/12/11 04:45:38
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Hecaton wrote: So who's the dark-haired gal? A missionary/crusader of some type? She doesn't look Sororitas and doesn't look Guard. Is she possibly our first example of a Ministorum Priestess?
Definitely a Ministorum Priest based on her get-up. Hopefully she has access to an eviscerator as one of the weapons options down the line in the game.
gak, I'm hoping the *Ogryn* has access to those...
2020/12/11 05:03:40
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Hecaton wrote: So who's the dark-haired gal? A missionary/crusader of some type? She doesn't look Sororitas and doesn't look Guard. Is she possibly our first example of a Ministorum Priestess?
Definitely a Ministorum Priest based on her get-up. Hopefully she has access to an eviscerator as one of the weapons options down the line in the game.
gak, I'm hoping the *Ogryn* has access to those...
Maybe, depends on how model accurate GW wants the game to be. At the very least I expect the Ogryn to have a Bullgryn sub-class or armour that lets him approximate a Bullgryn's wargear like the slabshield and Bullgryn Maul.
2020/12/11 07:07:21
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
The Vermintide classes weren't strict copies of their tabletop counterparts, so I expect it'll be the same here, especially if classes are involved again.
But liking what I'm seeing so far and curious to see if they'll include a fifth option just like with Vermintide.
Finally, a proper 40k shooter at long last.
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2020/12/11 07:31:52
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Grimskul wrote: Maybe, depends on how model accurate GW wants the game to be. At the very least I expect the Ogryn to have a Bullgryn sub-class or armour that lets him approximate a Bullgryn's wargear like the slabshield and Bullgryn Maul.
Yeah, it's a long shot as I don't think there's ever a canon example of it happening in 40k, but an Ogryn with one of those would probably be the scariest CC trooper the IG could field.
2020/12/11 08:11:43
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
A karserkin and a guardsman. Both appear to be a balanced class with the Karserkin possbily geared more towards specialist weapons. I'd be disappointed if the Ogryn doesn't get access to heavy weapons like H. Bolters and Lascannons. I guess the 5th class would be a pysker, unless the missionary takes that role but more in the area of providing buffs.
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2020/12/11 08:41:37
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Curious what the gameplay/class difference between the Kasrkin and the blonde chick is. She is wielding a sniper rifle so I guess that's her specialisation while the Kasrkin is more of an all-rounder?
Ogryn is pretty self-explanatory: tank.
The Ministorum priest is the CC expert and, I assume, will also get access to flame weapons.
2020/12/11 08:53:55
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
It'd be pretty cool if you can pick a class then the avatar's gender and have different 'Vermintide' style dialogue between the characters depending on gender. Also, would be pretty funny to see a female Ogryn lol
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After his organisation is hired to hunt down an influential gang leader on the Hive world, Omnartus. Attelus Kaltos is embroiled deeper into the complex world of the Assassin. This is the job which will change him, for better or for worse. Forevermore. Chapter 1.
The Angaran Chronicles: Hamar Noir. After coming back from a dangerous mission which left his friend and partner, the werewolf: Emilia in a coma. Anargrin is sent on another mission: to hunt down a rogue vampire. A rogue vampire with no consistent modus operandi and who is exceedingly good at hiding its tracks. So much so even the veteran Anargrin is forced into desperate speculation. But worst of all: drive him into desperate measures. Measures which drives Anargrin to wonder; does the ends, justify the means?
2020/12/11 15:42:41
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
I think it will be like Vermintide, so gender is locked in place, but with plenty of dialogue in place for just about any party configuration and map event. If it's like Vermintide, then cosmetics and different equipment loadouts will be part of the rewards for playing the game.
As for the classes, I both female and male Guardsmen are simply veterans. The female trooper appears to sport a longlas or a regular whatever pattern lasgun normally seen with the Catachans. But we'll see, waaaaaay back when they did the first Vermintide game they would do character vignettes over time, so we'll see this as well sooner or later.
As someone that LOVES both Vermintide games, the gameplay trailer was disappointing in that it was a little too melee-centric. I love chainswords, power mauls, and ripper guns used to bash heretics' heads in as much as the next 40k fan, but I was hoping Darktide wouldn't be an exact clone of Vermintide. Vermintide is melee-centric with ranged usually being a secondary focus, I'd hoped Darktide would take more of a primarily ranged focus. We'll see what the release has in store.
2020/12/12 01:12:15
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
I dunno, I get why you're saying it, but I spent a surprising amount of that video wondering why they were focusing so much on the autogun.
Its also worth noting that except for the priestess' thunderhammer, most of the actual _gameplay_ portions (rather than the more cinematic shots) are gun heavy, especially in the second half of the video. There's only about 10 seconds of everyone's melee weapons that show actual gameplay, and then the hammer again later. And I suspect its more to show off the bloody viscera effects than representative gameplay.
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2020/12/12 22:52:51
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Another nice looking bunch of Traitor guardsmen not having models
Sure interesting. will bookmark
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2020/12/15 13:41:15
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 - Darktide (from the creators of Vermintide)
Not Online!!! wrote: Another nice looking bunch of Traitor guardsmen not having models
The Deathwing game had Genestealer Hybrids in it, and was developed (not released) before GSC were reintroduced to 40k. This means that the folks who made that game were allowed to see the GSC stuff before the general public knew they were coming back (bit like how I knew about all the new Grey Knight units and weapons, like the Dreadknight, before their Codex came out, thanks to my work with FFG).
So you never know. These Traitor Guard might be an example of an upcoming actual release for 40k.
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