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Hi all,

I’ve been spending a good chunk of the COVID quarantine restoring my Space Ork army from 3rd edition. I’m normally an age of Sigmar player, and have a couple modern armies in that game system, as well as a modern daemons of Tzeentch force that I use in 40K too. I just love all my vintage Ork models so much, they have such great character and evoke strong feelings of nostalgia in me whenever I bring them out.

Because, however, every single model in the army is from 3rd edition, many of the models are on smaller bases, have been replaced by bigger models, or have been moved to legends. I’m not interested in replacing them with the modern variations, or rebasing, as I just love how the army looks as a whole. Really vintage and classic.

With all that being said, if you showed up to play a game with me, and saw the force I brought, would you play? I want to know what the general consensus is. Are my models just too old at this point? Not a single one is younger than 2002 I believe.

Thanks all!

I'd do so without even considering the question.

Yup, ditto. I won't lie, I'm very familiar with these models, my brother had an Ork force back when they were still current, so I *might* be slightly biased - but in a good way.

CEO Kasen wrote:I'd do so without even considering the question.

Super Ready wrote:Yup, ditto. I won't lie, I'm very familiar with these models, my brother had an Ork force back when they were still current, so I *might* be slightly biased - but in a good way.

That’s awesome guys, thanks. I am a bit hesitant to ever coordinate a game with a stranger (if this COVID stuff ever ends) because I’d hate for them to see my force and not want to play. This is reassuring.

There really is something so cool about a vintage army. These guys were painted so poorly by 12 year old me. It took me a good long time to get them stripped, repaired, primed and obviously painted quite a few. Painting 55 boyz straight will drive you a tad crazy

Yeah, I would get a kick out of seeing these old models again.

I would absolutely play a friendly with this sort of army.

I guess there are limits to it? Base sizes aren't a huge deal, proxying stuff in a way that's consistent and reasonable is more than fine. Go for it all day. I'm a firm believer that this sort of game carries an expectation of being good natured and that no one is trying to waste someone else's time by exploiting that.

But at some point the opponent is explaining the army and things aren't even close to matching up with the current codex or, like, "well these model doesn't exist anymore so I made up datasheets and points for 5 of them" that expectation is really not being met.

rbstr wrote:
I would absolutely play a friendly with this sort of army.

I guess there are limits to it? Base sizes aren't a huge deal, proxying stuff in a way that's consistent and reasonable is more than fine. Go for it all day. I'm a firm believer that this sort of game carries an expectation of being good natured and that no one is trying to waste someone else's time by exploiting that.

But at some point the opponent is explaining the army and things aren't even close to matching up with the current codex or, like, "well these model doesn't exist anymore so I made up datasheets and points for 5 of them" that expectation is really not being met.

I definitely agree, and I put my foot down at making up rules. The data sheets have to exist, and be valid. But Otherwise I’m a very good natured player, just looking for someone to drink beer and throw dice with, not trying to wombo combo them into the dust.

I don't even comprehend why anyone would refuse.

These are official models.

I'd consider it a treat to play against personally! At a tourney last year we had one guy bring an entirely 2nd Edition & Rogue Trader Space Marine force. All beakies and OLDSCHOOL Dreadnaughts and OLDSCHOOL Landraiders. It was hilarious and awesome.

CEO Kasen wrote:I'd do so without even considering the question.

feth anyone that wouldnt play you due to old models.


They're also the kind of person you wouldnt want to play to begin with anyway.


But to answer your question, hell yes. I've probably killed an actual Waaaaarrggghhhs worth. so...Stackin ork bodies is what Salamanders do best.

You'd be welcome at my groups tables. We love a force like yours.

The old trucks can raise some eyebrows amongst players (particularly in tournaments) due to being so much smaller than the current model, but other than that you're unlikely to have any issues in casual play.

Personally, I'd have no issue with it... but I've been playing for long enough that those models don't seem particularly 'vintage'. My own Ork army is mostly 2nd and 3rd ed models as well.

Hell yeah I would.

I could see someone at a tournament (or perhaps preparing for a tournament) having a problem with the smaller trukks, but I don't see a problem in casual games.

Awesome, thanks guys! Super pumped to hear that people would be down. I really want to work hard and finish off this army, and maybe even expand it with some more purchases ( of some vintage 3rd edition models of course ). For those curious, the full List is:
1x old Ghazzy model
1x Weirdboy (old orc shaman model)
1x Mek - I think it’s actually an old wortsnagga model
53 x Ork Boyz
6 x Nobz
6x Burna boyz
6x Warbikers
2x Buggies
2x Wartrakks
3x Trukks
2x Dreadnoughts
3x Killa Kans
6x Zzap Guns

Army looks cool. Love the old school bikes, and the converted buggies are great.

Other than the trukks being tiny (but that was a problem when they were released!), everything there is perfectly fine to play against.

I could see Ghazzy also being an issue, his new model is monsterous compared to others, but Worst case Scenerio just run him as a warboss in mega armor. (which IIRC is legends)

BrianDavion wrote:
I could see Ghazzy also being an issue, his new model is monsterous compared to others, but Worst case Scenerio just run him as a warboss in mega armor. (which IIRC is legends)

2nd edition Ghaz maybe (similar to the Rogue Trader-era Eldar Avatar, people tend to either love it for the nostalgia, or complain that it's just not suitable any more), but I can't see too many people objecting to 3rd Ed Ghaz, outside of tournaments.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Other than the trukks being tiny (but that was a problem when they were released!),...

I own only one of the old trukks, and use it as a buggy, as I always hated how tiny it was. I use a converted chimera as a trukk, instead.

Zodgrod Wortsnagga! I loved painting that model. Ah, the days when characters had... character. Sure I would play.

Tournament organizers will often let you submit pictures or even show them in person the stuff you might use as proxy or coutns as so they can say "yeah, that's allowed" or "no, thats too small to count as a rhino" in advance.

Treat your army that way -- let them know the rules your units fall under and let them judge if this is ok for their tournament rules. Some may require bases bigger -- but an easy trick for that, is to take an unused base, a bit of tacky blue putty stuff (that reusable stuff) and flip the unused base upside down, smoosh the model with real base into it, and for the lenvth of the tournament, viola, base is right size. Then pull off.

100% awesome army! Would play!

I'd face you with my 2nd and 3rd Edition Plague Marines on 25mm Bases, which is still the majority of my collection - this is perfectly fine and I'd say it's pretty normal. Nobody I know ever rebased their miniatures or thought about retiring old models. It might be a problem in some tournaments but... That's why I don't go to tournaments.

SpaceOrk wrote:
Hi all,

I’ve been spending a good chunk of the COVID quarantine restoring my Space Ork army from 3rd edition. I’m normally an age of Sigmar player, and have a couple modern armies in that game system, as well as a modern daemons of Tzeentch force that I use in 40K too. I just love all my vintage Ork models so much, they have such great character and evoke strong feelings of nostalgia in me whenever I bring them out.

Because, however, every single model in the army is from 3rd edition, many of the models are on smaller bases, have been replaced by bigger models, or have been moved to legends. I’m not interested in replacing them with the modern variations, or rebasing, as I just love how the army looks as a whole. Really vintage and classic.

With all that being said, if you showed up to play a game with me, and saw the force I brought, would you play? I want to know what the general consensus is. Are my models just too old at this point? Not a single one is younger than 2002 I believe.

Thanks all!

Mate, if you didnt tell the overly abundance of space marine players and non-xenos players that your models werent up to date, they wouldnt know.

Non-Xenos generally know nothing about what generation your models are, just as they dont know what a shokkjump dragsta is supposed to look like. for all intends and purposes you could use legend buggies and they wouldnt know. just use them as proxies for some of the newer vehicles.

however you should buy base adapters to upgrade your 25mm bases for infantry to 32.

Yep, absolutely. No reason I can see to not play against you. Some of those old models are nostalgic

Are you using 3rd, 8th or 9th Edition rules and "counts as" or what? I'd play regardless.

-STS

For tournament play, you might run into some issues with base sizes and the fact that the old Trukk models are tiny. For casual play though, I'd have fun playing against that! I love old-school models and think it's awesome that they still sometimes get some use.

I've played against many such armies.

If it was a tournament, then it might be worth considering if the base sizes would matter, and if they might, blue tac to proper sized bases or something. But that's the most anyone should care.

Smaller bases really don't matter so I don't see why not.

100% yes i would and i'm pretty sure 99% of the players would other than gatekeeper players (which are extremely rare in the wild).

Beardedragon wrote:

however you should buy base adapters to upgrade your 25mm bases for infantry to 32.

Or, you know, don't.

The 25mm bases on them have been fine for the last 30 years.

Of course I would.

I would be delighted to play against such an army. The small differences in size don't matter in a game like 40k. There might be some people who insist they do, but fundamentally, it lacks the granularity to ever find a noticeable effect of those things. The only major thing could be the size of some vehicles, but that really is an exception.