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Maybe a dumb question but I can't find anything about it. Is the newest Space Marine codex available as a digital version or no? It's not listed on the site and couldn't find it when I searched on my iPad.

tilarium wrote:
Maybe a dumb question but I can't find anything about it. Is the newest Space Marine codex available as a digital version or no? It's not listed on the site and couldn't find it when I searched on my iPad.

You have to buy the hard copy and it has a code inside for a digital copy. One use to make sure there's no sharing or aftermarket to undercut GW profit margin, of course.

tilarium wrote:
Maybe a dumb question but I can't find anything about it. Is the newest Space Marine codex available as a digital version or no? It's not listed on the site and couldn't find it when I searched on my iPad.

No. The Core Rules and codices for 9th edition are not available in a digital format. Instead when you purchase a physical codex, you get a code that unlocks that codex in the Warhammer 40,000: The App.

 SergentSilver wrote:
One use to make sure there's no sharing or aftermarket to undercut GW profit margin, of course.

A digital code that wasn't one use would be a terrible idea. Definitely still piracy though - just harder.

Hmmm. Thanks for the answers. On one hand that's really cool that they are finally like that but on the other hand it's a pain in the butt when you don't want to run to the store. Wish I had realized it when I was there earlier today, figured I'd just buy it online and then it wasn't there LOL.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 SergentSilver wrote:
One use to make sure there's no sharing or aftermarket to undercut GW profit margin, of course.

A digital code that wasn't one use would be a terrible idea. Definitely still piracy though - just harder.

I know, I know, just making a sarcastic joke about how money focused GW is. xD

Honestly though, you'd think they'd make more money by selling a purely digital version at a fraction of the cost. More people would buy it from them for the convenience of a digital copy. Not just being much easier to carry around than the physical books, they are also automatically updated so no need to carry around a binder of updates and cross reference everything (which makes it easier to learn as well since all the info is in one digital source, even if each book is payed for separately). They would also profit some from higher sales as the lower price would convince some people to buy more of the books to study and maybe even start a new faction, even if it stays small producing model sales as well. On top of that, since they already have to put in all the effort into making the physical copy, it literally costs them next to nothing to sell a digital copy. With negligible costs of maintaining the store page and updating the digital edition in-line with rules changes, it's practically pure profit on that end.


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Honestly, I know I for one would likely buy all the books for $10 each, just to have all the most current rules for each edition. Heck, if they included actual digital scans of the pages along with the text and the lore content as well, I'd probably buy a digital copy of every Warhammer 40k rule book ever printed, just to see the lore progression through the years. With the added benefit of being able to go back to previous editions now and then for nostalgia. Not all at once of course, I'm not that rich, but eventually it would be nice to have everything on hand to look through now and then.

Also, if it only cost $20 to get the core book and the faction book, I'd be a lot more motivated to work on my models since I would actually have the books to play. Even if it's just mock battles with myself for training.

 SergentSilver wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 SergentSilver wrote:
One use to make sure there's no sharing or aftermarket to undercut GW profit margin, of course.

A digital code that wasn't one use would be a terrible idea. Definitely still piracy though - just harder.

I know, I know, just making a sarcastic joke about how money focused GW is. xD

Honestly though, you'd think they'd make more money by selling a purely digital version at a fraction of the cost. More people would buy it from them for the convenience of a digital copy. Not just being much easier to carry around than the physical books, they are also automatically updated so no need to carry around a binder of updates and cross reference everything (which makes it easier to learn as well since all the info is in one digital source, even if each book is payed for separately). They would also profit some from higher sales as the lower price would convince some people to buy more of the books to study and maybe even start a new faction, even if it stays small producing model sales as well. On top of that, since they already have to put in all the effort into making the physical copy, it literally costs them next to nothing to sell a digital copy. With negligible costs of maintaining the store page and updating the digital edition in-line with rules changes, it's practically pure profit on that end.


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Honestly, I know I for one would likely buy all the books for $10 each, just to have all the most current rules for each edition. Heck, if they included actual digital scans of the pages along with the text and the lore content as well, I'd probably buy a digital copy of every Warhammer 40k rule book ever printed, just to see the lore progression through the years. With the added benefit of being able to go back to previous editions now and then for nostalgia. Not all at once of course, I'm not that rich, but eventually it would be nice to have everything on hand to look through now and then.

Also, if it only cost $20 to get the core book and the faction book, I'd be a lot more motivated to work on my models since I would actually have the books to play. Even if it's just mock battles with myself for training.

I'd even be willing to go $20 or $25 for just the digital. I haven't bought a physical codex in years, the digital is so much easier in all aspects. I'm almost certain that I would get most of the books as they drop in pure digi form at the lower price then having to drop $50. At that price point I'll only get the couple that I plan to actually play.

I really think GW would benefit from a huge price drop across the board. I don't know exactly what their financials look like of course, but I imagine they could drop the price on everything roughly %50 and still make a decent profit. It would make the game much more appealing to both newcomers and veterans alike if it didn't cost two kidney's and a liver to make playable army, so they'd likely see a large boost in sales and interest.

 SergentSilver wrote:

tilarium wrote:
Maybe a dumb question but I can't find anything about it. Is the newest Space Marine codex available as a digital version or no? It's not listed on the site and couldn't find it when I searched on my iPad.

You have to buy the hard copy and it has a code inside for a digital copy.

No it doesn't. It has a code to unlock the datasheets and rules on the 40k app. That isn't even vaguely the same thing

You have to buy a real book, which becomes recycling paper in 6-12 months, and then you get a code which you can only use in the 40k app, which is pathetic.

GW's decided that ebooks would be unfair competition for their precious app, since they're a one-time purchase rather than a one-time purchase that gives you the right to pay a subscription fee, and they actually work.

Again, how have they messed up the 40k app so badly when they had a perfectly good one in AoS. I don't even mean charging more, they could have used basically the same model entirely (other than the army builder) surely!?

I mean, *I* still got digital 40k books with some googling, I just wasn’t able to pay GW for them like I have in the past. It’s just incredibly stupid that they stopped selling the digital 40k books, when they still do digital versions of their other games. And yeah, the app does not nearly make up for it, given how much it’s missing from the Codexes.

 AduroT wrote:
I mean, *I* still got digital 40k books with some googling, I just wasn’t able to pay GW for them like I have in the past. It’s just incredibly stupid that they stopped selling the digital 40k books, when they still do digital versions of their other games. And yeah, the app does not nearly make up for it, given how much it’s missing from the Codexes.

Yeah, It's an abomination, the app only gives you the datasheets and the layout is pathetic on an iPad compared to the epubs.

I still hope the app fails because now even the new KillTeam books are not being released on Warhammer Digital. Weak

 SergentSilver wrote:
I really think GW would benefit from a huge price drop across the board. I don't know exactly what their financials look like of course, but I imagine they could drop the price on everything roughly %50 and still make a decent profit. It would make the game much more appealing to both newcomers and veterans alike if it didn't cost two kidney's and a liver to make playable army, so they'd likely see a large boost in sales and interest.

They are making record profits while unable to produce enough supply to meet demand...supply and demand thus says prices are too low...they would not more than double sales if they halved prices(doubling sales by halfing price is losing money).

Since they haven't succeeded in sufficient sale increase by lower prices before it's　unlikely they were able to do it now when they can't keep up with demand now. You can't sell what you can't produce.

tneva82 wrote:

 SergentSilver wrote:
I really think GW would benefit from a huge price drop across the board. I don't know exactly what their financials look like of course, but I imagine they could drop the price on everything roughly %50 and still make a decent profit. It would make the game much more appealing to both newcomers and veterans alike if it didn't cost two kidney's and a liver to make playable army, so they'd likely see a large boost in sales and interest.

They are making record profits while unable to produce enough supply to meet demand...supply and demand thus says prices are too low...they would not more than double sales if they halved prices(doubling sales by halfing price is losing money).

Since they haven't succeeded in sufficient sale increase by lower prices before it's　unlikely they were able to do it now when they can't keep up with demand now. You can't sell what you can't produce.

Sadly true. Still, it would be nice. I imagine the sales would go well above double if they did that though, and I never said they would make as much profit as they do now either. I simply said sales would increase and they would still make a profit. As for the supply part, supply right now is hurting a lot because of the pandemic. Under normal conditions, I believe they could fairly easily increase production to meet demand, which would in turn decrease the per unit costs on their end. The reason they can get away with so grossly inflating the value of their product is the same as why videogames can say a single skin is worth half a AAA title: they have a monopoly on the product and thus can set whatever price they want. Likely the only reason GW hasn't jacked up the prices even more is that there are third party lookalikes to keep them somewhat honest. If they went above those, casual players would just buy the cheaper third party models. Many people already buy third party models when they're more expensive than GW because they're cool and different. Imagine how much business GW would lose to them if third party models were [/i]less[i] expensive. It says a lot about how much GW is inflating prices that they, as a massive corporation, are only barely cheaper than the small businesses that produce models in comparatively tiny lots or even on a made to order basis.