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INTRODUCTION

Greetings. This thread is about Age of Sail wargaming with individual or small crew representation. I have added this to Fantasy rather than Historical for broadness, though the broad ships and tech should be relevant for any small scale Age of Sail wargaming from the 16th to early 19th century; there is a particular focus on the Age of Piracy; both it's historical and its fantastical elements.

This thread is actually a request, intended to cover the following new releases in particular but not limited to:


1. Blood & Plunder

An existing Age of Piracy skirmish wargame by Firelock games which with its current Kickstarter includes plastic pirates, marines and even 28mm plastic sloops. This is a major door opener as affordable easy to assemble age of sail warships in 28mm are new to the hobby. Yes I was unaware of 28mm plastic sloops until today.
You can get involved in the Kickstarter here.
Please note Late Pledges will terminate late July early August, but this also means a short wait for new backers at campaign prices.



2. Reaper Bones - Sophie's Revenge



Possibly too late to get one, this Kickstarter is in fulfilment. However you can back a second wave of Bones 5 here.
The reopened Pledge Manager will be open until September with fulfilment expected early 2022. They may run out of Pirate ships before then. I can now confirm that the reopened Pledge Manager, known by the community as Bones 5.5 does sell both pirate ships, the one above and the spooky glow in the dark version, both cost $125, which is above th price of the original Bones 5 Kickstarter but still a very good deal.
The community has been blown away by the size, scale and quality of this toy and this thread primarily exists to discuss how best to use it. Though you got me at '28mm plastic sloops'.



3. Printable Scenery - The Lost Islands

A long fulfilled project that is available here.
The Lost Islands includes .stl files at reasonable prices for colonial dwellings, native/orc dwellings and Age of Sail vessels with strong fantasy elements. The larger the bundle the better the value. This is for 3d printer owners as third party print of these files will be expensive, and the larger pieces will not be practical for resin printers. A lot more work than the first two but has a lot of decent options and even interior plates.


Of particular interest is the rather good generic brig.


Also the Fluyt which can serve time and again as a suitable victim.


And this galleon which is 24" long.

None of the above ships have interiors, all are constructed solid, but you can print out textured interior plates for each ship.




4. Ainsty Castings Ships

A veteran producer of resin and dowel age of sail ships. The trouble is it takes a lot of ships to make a varied game and these are expensive. however with cheap plastic mass produced models and the possible availability of very large plastic models, and 3d printed quality sculpts it becomes plausible and beneficial to top up a fleet with one or two commercial resin models to max out variety.
Ainsty Castings can be found here plus other websites.

Unlike many producers you don't find many discounts by going elsewhere, but Ainsty themselves do fleet packs for the extra committed.


Ainsty do three ships a Man-O-War, a Merchantman and a Sloop. Comperable era to the Blood and Plunder miniatures, and better prices with exception of the sloop.



5. Frostgrave - Ghost Archipelago

An expansion setting and personalised rule set for skirmish level pirate exploration. This game is intended for warband level infantry combat, but with the recent influx of cheap ships it is time to think outside the rulebook and start planning for taking the action to sea.

If nothing else this game provides us with even more crew options.



THREAD PURPOSE

With an influx of new players wanting to play pirate ships, and we can all see the appeal we need an info thread on such topics as
- Ship identification. Both in terms of genre historicity and relative strength.
- Naval terminology and usage. We can all say 'Arrr'. But do we know our 'spars' from our 'spankers'; and do our eyes glaze over with confusion when we look at how to rig a ship, or run it.
- Practical gaming. How much rigging do we add and how much sail plan do we represent. How do we represent battle damage. Do we go for authenticity, or maximise room for our hands to move characters around the deck.
- Settings and scenarios. Are we going for historical researched battles or role playing One Piece ( I had fun with the latter), help and tips.
- Fantasy elements. There are rulesets galore on pirates, but things get more rarified when we add undead, or mojo or both.

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Any advice on where to buy cannons? I guess the only plastic ones are the wizkids ones, and the new bones ones that arent actually available yet. But both of those seem to be too large.

I bought the Blood and plunder light cannons, but they were very small. the new bermuda sloop from that kickstarter is supposed to come with cannons (not sure if its a full cannon, or just barrels to put on the outside, but either way probably wont be availabel separately for a while, if ever.
   
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Black Scorpion Miniatures has resin cannon, as well as cannon crew, pirates, fantasy pirates, etc. Here's the cannon options:

https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/?s=cannon&post_type=product

No idea if they scale well or not.

For the d20 / D&D 3.0/3.5 folks, you could take a look at Skull & Bones, the first tabletop RPG project I wrote for, which is still available from Green Ronin. I don't get royalties but it's a good book and I'm still super proud of it. We really lucked out in having decided to mix real-world piracy with fantasy / voodoo elements a year or so before PotC came out!

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/19330/Skull--Bones

For anyone interested in the mid-18th century British navy, this is one of my fave factual books on the subject:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/426218.The_Wooden_World


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Ok good start.

Privateer Press Warmachine/Hordes cannon
&
Warhammer Fantasy Empire cannon


These are lumped together in the category of way too big. Fine for soft fantasy and with a double helping of rule of cool, but our ships are of modest scale for most part and simply do not fit soft fantasy cannon such as these.

Wizkids Deep Cuts Large cannon

These are very big, but within the plausible range for the heaviest piece. 32pdr if ever I saw one.
I do recommend these for installation guns, and heroes might sneak one or two of these onto a ship that isn't designed to carry one, for player character use though, regular crew will be way to sensible to fire it unsupervised. Stranger things have happened in real life though.

Blood and Plunder Medium cannon

Blood and Plunder uses small unrated vessels and an earlier time period, capping out at 1700. What is a medium cannon to them is a light cannon to most of the Age of Sail. These will do as deck guns for Sophie's Revenge and the larger Printable Scenery ships.

Blood and Plunder Light cannon and swivel guns
Perfectly good as deck guns on smaller ships, such as sloops, and light enough to be maneuvered (slowly) shoreside. You will certainly not want to try to use any cannon larger than this with a shore party unless and solely if you are setting up the gun as a permanent shore emplacement.
Swivel guns have little to no portability, but have a lot of usability in close action.


Please note here the oddities of Age of Sail cannon use. A single 3rd Rate, just one of over a hundred in French or British service at the time, will have more guns and bigger guns than Napoleon's Grande Armee. The thief of Europe's 'Beautiful daughters' that terrorised a continent (Boney used them well) was comperable to the broadside of a single smaller rated warship. In naval terms a 12pdr is medium piece, and heavy piece ranges from 18-32pdr plus carronade and odd calibres, usually Russian. With exception of howitzers and again a few Russian guns the larger heavy foot artillery were 12pdr, and most horse artillery cannon with 6pdr or 9pdr.
Naval guns use naval carriage which is not designed to be moved much, but that aside most naval cannon are too big to be moved much at all shoreside. yes a heavy naval cannon could be given a temporary mounting to act as a siege weapon, this was done and is practical, but against anything faster moving than city walls will require a more nimble cannon to oppose. Only the lightest naval cannon are of use to a shore party as a tactical piece and even they will need to stay on road unless you could remount them on an army gun carriage.

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 Ian Sturrock wrote:


For the d20 / D&D 3.0/3.5 folks, you could take a look at Skull & Bones, the first tabletop RPG project I wrote for, which is still available from Green Ronin. I don't get royalties but it's a good book and I'm still super proud of it. We really lucked out in having decided to mix real-world piracy with fantasy / voodoo elements a year or so before PotC came out!


I have this book in my collection. Its a really good book, and i have used things out of it in non pirate games too. What sections were you involved in? I sould most of my 3/3.5 stuff but this is one i kept for use in pathfinder.

I will take a look at the blood and plunder medium cannons. I think last time i saw them, they were sold out/unavailable. But that was a year or more back.
   
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 Smokestack wrote:


I have this book in my collection. Its a really good book, and i have used things out of it in non pirate games too. What sections were you involved in? I sould most of my 3/3.5 stuff but this is one i kept for use in pathfinder.


Awh thank you! It's always amazing to hear that kind of praise. Makes the 4 cents a word flat fee seem worthwhile.

Hmm, I did a lot of that book -- most of the character classes and prestige classes OTHER than the magic system. The magic system was mostly done by T. S. Luikart, who will be familiar to 40K roleplayers by now I suspect. Dude was an absolute joy to work with, every time. He did the magic classes and most of the special items too, as well as a lot of new monsters, lore, the magical navigation aspects, etc.

And I did combat, weapons and armour, and a load of the island gazetteer aspects, GM advice, etc.

There were two other authors listed but from memory they ended up doing less than a third of the book between them... I could be wrong. I can remember thinking a LOT, hey, I am the novice in the industry, but it feels like it's only me and TSL who are getting our work in on time!

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Just got my copy out, I see they listed you last in the credit order... "and Ian Sturrock".

My favorite sectioan was the backgrounds and fortunes section, but I also have used the ship combat section quite a bit. I have also used the buff coat and pitch jacket armor on my Theocracy bad guys... This book and Northern Crown form a really great campaign.
   
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 Ian Sturrock wrote:
Black Scorpion Miniatures has resin cannon, as well as cannon crew, pirates, fantasy pirates, etc. Here's the cannon options:
https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/?s=cannon&post_type=product


Nice cast miniature.

 Ian Sturrock wrote:

No idea if they scale well or not.


It doesn't but you could convert it a little to make it work Draw a smaller bore hole, or use it as a carronade and apply a bit of rule of cool.
The barrel walls are very thin as is.
The loader with the cannon ball could serve as a gunner for one opf the larger cannon.

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Sounds good!

Incidentally, for reference, I ordered one of the Blood & Plunder late pledge single sloops, and paid $44 / £33 including shipping. Absolute bargain I think. In some ways it'd be nice to have a pair of sloops to fight the big Bones ship, but I don't think I'm in the market for complicated ship combat rules at 28mm scale any time soon -- it's much more likely to be used for e.g. a night-time, sneaky boarding action, I suspect, with the fighting mostly being skirmish-level rather than ship-to-ship.

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 Ian Sturrock wrote:
Sounds good!

Incidentally, for reference, I ordered one of the Blood & Plunder late pledge single sloops, and paid $44 / £33 including shipping. Absolute bargain I think. In some ways it'd be nice to have a pair of sloops to fight the big Bones ship, but I don't think I'm in the market for complicated ship combat rules at 28mm scale any time soon -- it's much more likely to be used for e.g. a night-time, sneaky boarding action, I suspect, with the fighting mostly being skirmish-level rather than ship-to-ship.


Miniature market has the Blood and plunder kickstarter stuff on preorder (cheaper than the kickstarter prices...)

https://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/blood-plunder.html

the sloop is $31.99... :(

   
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Ah I doubt I'd get it shipped to the UK for $12! But it's good to know for anyone in the USA for sure.

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I will be getting at least two, so I might as well get the Captain pledge.

these are Bermuda sloops not Sloops-of-war.

When we look at historical sloop armament we are looking at Sloops of War which are mini frigates. Typically carrying up to 18 lighter guns.

Bermuda sloops are sea worthy and are used as message and patrol ships but carried very little in terms of armament, and served better without armament at all.

You would not want to send any number of Bermuda sloops against a warship the size of Sophies Revenge.

You could make small gun brigs out of the brig models for Blood and plunder

Now when we apply fantasy we can mix this up a little, arm the sloops and use them as you will. Armed Bermuda sloops will be plausible as pirate vessels though, for running down and taking merchantmen.

The one advantage of a Bermuda sloop is its relatively high upwind speed and the narrowness of its tack, and the ability to man the rig entirely from the deck and with minimum crew. This is due to its sail arrangement which is the ancestor of the sail plan in pleasure and racing yaughting to this day.

It will be nice to add a few cannon, but the class is most dangerous as a boarding platform.

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Ordered 50 more cannon in the pledge manager. At $1 a cannon is hard to beat. And I can use them to arm my Playmobil ships...

Blood and plunder, I am getting 3 of the bermuda sloops. 2 with the boxed set and an extra. I mostly got them originally for use in RPGs, but i may try the game with a couple friends. I am liking the Dutch, and may do a Dutch crew/ paint scheme.

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Smokestack, do you have that scaling for me?

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An excellent thread Orlanth, thank you for starting it.

I have spent a lot of time researching things for my Tarnished Splendor project but the wealth of knowledge on here is incredibly useful.

Crusader Miniatures has some naval cannons.

https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=488

Dark Ops does some MDF pieces that whilst on the fictional/fantasy side of things might appeal to some. I have to admit I like their San Juan Galleon.

https://www.darkops.co.uk/collections/ships-boats

I thought about trying to get in touch with Viking Carpenter on eBay.com to see if I could buy just the masts and rigging for their frigate to replace the masts on Sophie’s Revenge.

https://www.ebay.com/str/janka87e?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Their MDF ships may be of interest to some folks.

One thing I have not found is a decent 28mm xebec. If you are going fictional/fantasy you can easily add Ottoman or Barbary presence to your Caribbean just as they did in Pirates of the Burning Seas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhc60feL8Nc

I will admit a lot of what I want to do with my tabletop gaming comes from too many hours spent playing Pirates of the Burning Sea.





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I was looking at Viking Carpenter ships only yesterday and working out comperable sizes, and actual ship classifications.
Still collating the data, but come to some interesting conclusions and suggestions already.

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What about theFalling Star?

   
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 Manchu wrote:
What about theFalling Star?


Overpriced, badly scaled, badly proportioned; cardstock decks. I like the masts though, made a much better attempt at a square rig than Reaper has.
Was never tempted to buy, but if one turned up second hand at a low enough price I would consider converting it, as the core potential is there. Especially if I can buy spare masts from Wizkids.

I would save my money and go elsewhere, especially right now.

If I was stuck with one I would try and make her a four mast, galleon rig with two square sail masts and two lateens with no topsail. You could manage that if Wizkids sold a pair of spare masts.
Alternately redo the masts from scratch as described above and apply the Falling Stars masts to a fat trading brig. I certainly wouldnt waste them, best part of the model

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Found some more cannons -- some of them currently in one of EOE Orbis's periodic sales, at least in the UK shop. They aren't especially cheap but do have at least one more pair of cannon crew that'd be different to the Black Scorpion ones.

https://eoeorbisuk.com/search?type=product&q=cannon

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 Orlanth wrote:
Smokestack, do you have that scaling for me?


The main deck is 27 squares long, 7 squares at its widest and 3 squares at its smallest. Total squares (not counting Steps) is 144 squares.

The gun deck is 25 squares long. 7 squares at its widest and 5 squares at its smallest. Total squares is 155 squares.

If square is 1 inch.


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Those Viking carpenter ships are pretty cool. Does anyone here own any or have any experience with them? Their 32 gun ship of the line looks really nice

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I have a few Laser Dream Works ships and cannon. Love 'em.

http://www.laserdreamworks.com/28mm-ships/


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I concur with Orlanth on the Falling Star.

Good call on the Laser Dream Works, thanks for highlighting that.

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 Smokestack wrote:
 Orlanth wrote:
Smokestack, do you have that scaling for me?

The main deck is 27 squares long, 7 squares at its widest and 3 squares at its smallest. Total squares (not counting Steps) is 144 squares.
The gun deck is 25 squares long. 7 squares at its widest and 5 squares at its smallest. Total squares is 155 squares.
If square is 1 inch.


Thankyou so it does tally with the image below. I suspected it would but couldn't confirm if there were any changes to production.


Assumption 1 - One inch squares are approx 25mm, with 28mm being adult male human height. With fantasy that normally means 6', historical people would usally be much shorter but we can leave that aside. So let us confirm an estimated 5' square for the deck plan.

Assumption 2 - I will add one half inch for the hull as these squares are internal measure and because hull thickness will be wider at the keel which is where ship length measurements are made.

Measuring from the gun deck which is very close to the waterline I can estimate a ship length of 128' and a beam of 35' for the Sophie's Revenge. Now deck measurement will be bigger, and the total measure larger still because of mast spars and the bowsprit, but 128' v 35' is the measure we need.

Now some samples though first note designs varied in RN/European usage and Yankee built ships (a significant tech upgrade) were much larger and equal to a 4th Rate in reality. USS Constitution had a length of 175' and a beam of 43' and was only technically a frigate by internal classification and number of cannon.

I am using this site for refernences:

https://threedecks.org/index.php

All the following ships had similar rigging (ship rig) and sail plan and were broadly proportional to each other:
I will run samples from 5th Rate, through 6th Rate to Sloop of War which is the next size vessel down, let us be heretical and call it a '7th Rate' for purpose of thread and clarity of understanding.
I will provide a number of ships that straddle Sophies Revenge


Class - Rating - Armament - Hull dimensions at waterline - Nationality - First constructed/(model Manufacturer)
Amazon - 5th - 38 gun - 141' x 39' - Great Britain - 1780
'Sophie's Revenge' - ?5th/6th? - 20 gun* - 128' x 35' - (Reaper) * Can mount up to 32 cannon
La Malicieuse - 5th - 32 gun - 124' x 32' - France - 1758
Apollo - 5th - 36 gun - 122' x 38' - Great Britain - 1798.
America - 5th - 44 gun - 114' x37' - Great Britain - 1747
'Ship of the Line' - ?5th/6th? - 32 gun - 108' x 29' - (Viking Carpenter)
'Frigate' - ?6th/7th? - 16 gun - 108' x 29' - (Viking Carpenter)
Phoenix - 6th - 20 gun - 93' x 32' - Great Britian - 1742
Frigate - 6th - 22 gun - 90' x 37' - (Firelock Games)
'Frigate Mk2' - Non - 14 gun - 80' x 28' (est) - (Printable Scenery)
Greyhound - 6th - 42 gun - 76' x 26' - Great Britain - 1712
Cruizer class - 7th - 18 gun - 77' x 30' - Great Britain - 1797

At this point I have no recourse to claim Sophie's Revenger is a 6th rate for any other reason than number of cannon carried. One pack of ten cannon would bring her up to 5th rate armament and she is 5th rate size. Yes there was size creep but she has antiquated stern architecture and is not a Napolenic era design. As a 5rth rate of this size Sophie's Revenge will mass about 700 tons rather than the 400 initially estimated.

As for the Viking Carpenter ships. The Frigate is nominally a Sloop of War, but you could in fact should mod the model to add four extra cannon to make her formally a 6th rate. I am surprised when I read the number she looks smaller, but the model is as it is. The two decked vessel will up the vessel to 5th rate, and obsolescent two deck 5th rate design. It will go no higher and is not a 'Ship of the Line'.

The Printable Scenery frigate doesnt have interiors and if the .stl files are improved to add more gun ports this could serve as an early 18th century Sloop of War. As is it would be best classified as an East Indiaman, or other armed corporate venture vessel.





 Smokestack wrote:

Those Viking carpenter ships are pretty cool. Does anyone here own any or have any experience with them? Their 32 gun ship of the line looks really nice


I don't and they are expensive for what they are, especially at this moment in time while the window to buy more Sophies and comperable price is open.

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Cool thread! Those ships are awesome. I do wonder about what kind of game you could run at that scale with those boats - something a little smaller like the sloops might be best for games like Ghost Archipelago.

Lots of scope for scratch building your own ships in this scale too.

   
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Blood and Plunder apparently works for big like these but I have not played the rules myself and have been wondering just how I am going to game these pieces. If I use Sharp Practice they just act as buildings I believe. Not very exciting. I have not seen a 28mm naval game as popular as Blood and Plunder but would love to hear suggestions.

Some useful links from lead adventure forum to source models:

Ships…

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24456.0

Boats…

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=30227.0

Cannons…

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37686.0

The discussion on Sophie’s Revenge on the Reaper Forums…

https://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/91700-pirate-ship-for-bones-5-kickstarter/page/14/

…. and pirate ship discussions on the Miniatures Page forums…

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/topics.mv?id=169

…. and more general Age of Sail posts on the Miniatures Page forums…

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/topics.mv?id=135

There is so much information out there, scattered so far and wide.

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I just put in my order for a Captain pledge for Blood & Plunder.

Considering an RPG pledge also. I wonder if I can convert one of the ships into a cutter.

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Anyone have any thoughts or leads on smaller fantasy style cannons?

I have the Reaper Stygian Barge from their Bones IV kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-4-mr-bones-epic-adventure/posts/1978623) and would love demon-themed, undead-ish, monstrous cannon to go with that ship (it's a lot smaller than Sophie's Revenge!).

Here's the two side by side (along with a few other ships)

Clockwise, starting at 3o'clock we have the Sophie's Revenge (or her stern, anyway!)
At around 6 o'clock we have the wee sloop that was part of the Brinewind extras from the same kickstarter. It's a nice small ship that should be able to hold a reasonable crew (4-6 minis, maybe?).
At around 7 o'clock is the small Reaper row boat, which was available on their website. It can comfortably hold one mini, or two with a lil squeeze.
8 o'clock we have the Games Workshop Arkanaut Ironclad from the Age of Sigmar Kharadron Overlords
10 o'clock and 11 o'clock are two ships from Blood and Plunder, the Bark and Tartana, respectively
Finally, at noon, we have the Reaper Bones Stygian Barge


Anyone know of very fantasy-ish cannon?

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 pancakeonions wrote:

I have the Reaper Stygian Barge from their Bones IV kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-4-mr-bones-epic-adventure/posts/1978623) and would love demon-themed, undead-ish, monstrous cannon to go with that ship (it's a lot smaller than Sophie's Revenge!).


I bought that, then didn't know what to do with it. I your case I would turn it into a galleas, and add your cannon to a covered forecastle. Galleas had very few cannon mostly mounted at the bows, usually under cover.
Galleys make sense for undead and zombies can row all day. Hmm. I wonder why I didnt think of this earlier, an undead faction galleas will be a useful piece, while crossing the Styx is not something one needs to face often.


 pancakeonions wrote:

Anyone know of very fantasy-ish cannon?


One tip. For smaller cannon I would suggest using chaos space marine vehicle accessory sprue pieces as cannon mouths. Galleas tended not to have particularly big guns. But your is undead so you could go bigger, how about a lot bigger. If you want a few meaty cannon use Empire cannon or mortars, shave off all the frilly stuff and add chaos iconography or skulls.
There are commercial chaos cannon most are very expensive. Though you can find some good entries in the not-Chaos Dwarf section of 9th Age.
https://www.the-ninth-age.com/community/lexicon/index.php?entry/2287-miniatures-infernal-artillery/





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Oh man, this thing would be glorious. I may have to buy it, just because I feel like I need to own it.



PS: that's the Oldschool Miniatures Daemon Cannon and Crew

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