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Everybody knows that Sly (Rambo), Madonna (Mad Donna) and Carl Weathers (Catachan Officer) exist in 40K. If you were tasked to incorporate more of such characters who would they be?

Dont forget T1000 and aliens...
To add another, Ziggy Stardust aka D. Bowie, astropath

Picard as an Ethereal, Spock as a Farseer (naturally).

I’d include Obi Wan Kenobi, Sherlock Holmes and Inspector Clouseau… wait… beaten to it.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I’d include Obi Wan Kenobi, Sherlock Holmes and Inspector Clouseau… wait… beaten to it.

Could you be more specific?

Here are some of my candidates:

Milla Jovovich as a Plague Zombie hunter (stats of an Inquisitor with psi powers. Very good in melee. Derived from the movie Resident Evil 3.

Master Yoga as a Grot with psi-powers. Can only be included in a Grot Rebellion army. Derived from Star Wars.

Michael Dudikoff as an Imperial Assassin. Derived from American Ninja.

Jane Fonda as a Rogue Trader. Derived from Barbarella.

Charlize Theron as an Ash Waste nomad from Necromunda. Derived from Fury Road.

Bud Spencer & Terence Hill as Imperial Priests on Necromunda. Must always be deployed together. They don't use any weapons and prefer brawls to remove opponents. Derived from Zwei Missionare.

Leaving this here for the uninitiated

https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/04/the-most-awesome-40k-character-of-all-time.html

 Flinty wrote:
Leaving this here for the uninitiated

https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/04/the-most-awesome-40k-character-of-all-time.html

Skin-tight powered armour!
Arbitrator Dreyfus is gold!

Magistus Amon is clearly Ben Kingsley in costume as Mazer Rackham.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Magistus Amon is clearly Ben Kingsley in costume as Mazer Rackham.

Ben Kingsley?! He should better be represented as Ghandi leading a peaceful revolt (oh dear!) against the IoM on his home planet.

Kill them all off, and actually make something interesting and unique.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Magistus Amon is clearly Ben Kingsley in costume as Mazer Rackham.

Ben Kingsley?! He should better be represented as Ghandi leading a peaceful revolt (oh dear!) against the IoM on his home planet.

Unfortunately that's not the artwork they picked to use for Amon.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Kill them all off, and actually make something interesting and unique.

Mate the entire setting is made from copying others.

Space marines were just mobile infantry starship troopers, nice were just the huge from the same franchise.

God emperor comes from dune as do navigators.

Orks are taken from Lord of the rings and given football hooligan themes, eldar are just elves, Gretchen are goblins etc.

Necrons started out as a terminator rip off.

So yeah if you don't like references this ain't the game for you because that's in its DNA.

SoB are a copy of Dune Fishspeakers. The God Emperor is the God Emperor. Arbites are a clone of Judge Dread judges. Genestealers seem to be based on Aliens. Lord Commander Solar Macharius is Alexander the Great. For a company that protects its IP, GW was inspired a lot while creating their own setting.

Mobile Infantry weren't genemodded supersoldiers. They were guys wearing the equivalent of a Dreadnought suit.
"Bugs" from Starship Troopers were also a wildly different concept. They weren't a ravenous, world-stripping insectile species.

God-Emperor from Dune was the result of centuries-long breeding programs creating an "ultimate being". Navigators are created in that same setting, not naturally manifesting.

Orks, Gretchin, etc are again a different concept.

Necrons are...well, the original concept was "Space Undead".

Anyways, references/homages/inspiration? That's fine. Things like the Catachan metal grenade launcher looking like Vasquez from "Aliens" are fun little nods to the inspiring material.
Straight copies like "Marbo"?
That's lazy.

Kill off the copies, bring original material in. The fact that Marbo is still around while the far, far more interesting concepted character of Lukas Bastonne never even saw a damn model is patently ridiculous.

I mean, 40k's nagivators are also the product of generations of noble houses genetical manipulation and the God-Emperor is the fusion of hundreds of proto-shamans of old earth or something like that.

 Strg Alt wrote:
Everybody knows that Sly (Rambo), Madonna (Mad Donna) and Carl Weathers (Catachan Officer) exist in 40K. If you were tasked to incorporate more of such characters who would they be?

When you say Carl Weathers you mean Dillon from Predator Carl Weathers. Not Apollo Creed lol

The kommando nob in kill team is also a homage to Dillion

Shiv from the Last chancers is pretty much Billy ( Sonny Landham ) from predator, too

 Kanluwen wrote:
Mobile Infantry weren't genemodded supersoldiers. They were guys wearing the equivalent of a Dreadnought suit.
"Bugs" from Starship Troopers were also a wildly different concept. They weren't a ravenous, world-stripping insectile species.

God-Emperor from Dune was the result of centuries-long breeding programs creating an "ultimate being". Navigators are created in that same setting, not naturally manifesting.

But space marines in their first version were just regular humans in power armour. And the navigators are very much breed, they are mutants that don't get born outside of a specific gene moded population. And the emperor in w40k is some gestalt creation that lives many lifes, as different people, including both sexs etc And he had to be awakened to become the real deal same way it happened to Paul and later Leto II. The difference is that one required the sacrifice of shamans to do it and the dune emperors just used drugs.

Karol wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Mobile Infantry weren't genemodded supersoldiers. They were guys wearing the equivalent of a Dreadnought suit.
"Bugs" from Starship Troopers were also a wildly different concept. They weren't a ravenous, world-stripping insectile species.

God-Emperor from Dune was the result of centuries-long breeding programs creating an "ultimate being". Navigators are created in that same setting, not naturally manifesting.

But space marines in their first version were just regular humans in power armour. And the navigators are very much breed, they are mutants that don't get born outside of a specific gene moded population. And the emperor in w40k is some gestalt creation that lives many lifes, as different people, including both sexs etc And he had to be awakened to become the real deal same way it happened to Paul and later Leto II. The difference is that one required the sacrifice of shamans to do it and the dune emperors just used drugs.

I don’t think the similarities between dune and 40K are the emperor and the way he came to be, it’s more the idea of a singular emperor having the whole galaxy under his power because he controlled an army that is superior to any other and no one dare oppose him. Also that the 40K universe stagnating much like the humans in dune were forced to stay in planet and not allowed space travel stagnating their gene pools and cultures and technologies. The only difference is in dune we see it is part of the golden path and we see it pay off as the frustration from being confined results in mass migration as soon as humans are allowed to get off planet. In 40K we haven’t seen the payoff or that the stagnant society is part of a bigger scheme.

Ripper Jackson = Vasquez from Aliens.

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:
Everybody knows that Sly (Rambo), Madonna (Mad Donna) and Carl Weathers (Catachan Officer) exist in 40K. If you were tasked to incorporate more of such characters who would they be?

When you say Carl Weathers you mean Dillon from Predator Carl Weathers. Not Apollo Creed lol

The kommando nob in kill team is also a homage to Dillion

Shiv from the Last chancers is pretty much Billy ( Sonny Landham ) from predator, too

Everybody understood the reference but you needed apparently a FAQ.

mrFickle wrote:

Karol wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Mobile Infantry weren't genemodded supersoldiers. They were guys wearing the equivalent of a Dreadnought suit.
"Bugs" from Starship Troopers were also a wildly different concept. They weren't a ravenous, world-stripping insectile species.

God-Emperor from Dune was the result of centuries-long breeding programs creating an "ultimate being". Navigators are created in that same setting, not naturally manifesting.

But space marines in their first version were just regular humans in power armour. And the navigators are very much breed, they are mutants that don't get born outside of a specific gene moded population. And the emperor in w40k is some gestalt creation that lives many lifes, as different people, including both sexs etc And he had to be awakened to become the real deal same way it happened to Paul and later Leto II. The difference is that one required the sacrifice of shamans to do it and the dune emperors just used drugs.

I don’t think the similarities between dune and 40K are the emperor and the way he came to be, it’s more the idea of a singular emperor having the whole galaxy under his power because he controlled an army that is superior to any other and no one dare oppose him. Also that the 40K universe stagnating much like the humans in dune were forced to stay in planet and not allowed space travel stagnating their gene pools and cultures and technologies. The only difference is in dune we see it is part of the golden path and we see it pay off as the frustration from being confined results in mass migration as soon as humans are allowed to get off planet. In 40K we haven’t seen the payoff or that the stagnant society is part of a bigger scheme.

Maybe but the point is that the people who say "warhammer 40k just copies X" are wrong.
Can you see the inspiration from it? ABSOLUTELY. but that doesn't mean 40k is a copy of Dune anymore then Lord of the Rings is a copy of Beowolf, or the Ring Saga

Leto II an emperor with a galaxy spaning psychic powers and plans for the entire human race. The setting has religious female warriors, genetic moded super warriors, a secretive engineer faction that hides the fact that it is still building AI, there are navigators required for trans space travel who are a gene moded part of humanity, that slowly mutate the more they use their power. They have special thrones to keep them alive when they are in their end stage of mutation etc

All of this things can be said about the w40k setting too. That doesn't mean that w40k lore is just Dune, but there is difference between we took historic entity like Alexander the Great and make a IG Commander based on the story. And RT art of Sisters of Battle looking like art of Fish Speakers from the Dune books.

BrianDavion wrote:

mrFickle wrote:

Karol wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Mobile Infantry weren't genemodded supersoldiers. They were guys wearing the equivalent of a Dreadnought suit.
"Bugs" from Starship Troopers were also a wildly different concept. They weren't a ravenous, world-stripping insectile species.

God-Emperor from Dune was the result of centuries-long breeding programs creating an "ultimate being". Navigators are created in that same setting, not naturally manifesting.

But space marines in their first version were just regular humans in power armour. And the navigators are very much breed, they are mutants that don't get born outside of a specific gene moded population. And the emperor in w40k is some gestalt creation that lives many lifes, as different people, including both sexs etc And he had to be awakened to become the real deal same way it happened to Paul and later Leto II. The difference is that one required the sacrifice of shamans to do it and the dune emperors just used drugs.

I don’t think the similarities between dune and 40K are the emperor and the way he came to be, it’s more the idea of a singular emperor having the whole galaxy under his power because he controlled an army that is superior to any other and no one dare oppose him. Also that the 40K universe stagnating much like the humans in dune were forced to stay in planet and not allowed space travel stagnating their gene pools and cultures and technologies. The only difference is in dune we see it is part of the golden path and we see it pay off as the frustration from being confined results in mass migration as soon as humans are allowed to get off planet. In 40K we haven’t seen the payoff or that the stagnant society is part of a bigger scheme.

Maybe but the point is that the people who say "warhammer 40k just copies X" are wrong.
Can you see the inspiration from it? ABSOLUTELY. but that doesn't mean 40k is a copy of Dune anymore then Lord of the Rings is a copy of Beowolf, or the Ring Saga

I agree and I think it’s more true now than 20-30 years ago when the “inspiration” was a bit more like plagiarism haha

 Strg Alt wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:
Everybody knows that Sly (Rambo), Madonna (Mad Donna) and Carl Weathers (Catachan Officer) exist in 40K. If you were tasked to incorporate more of such characters who would they be?

When you say Carl Weathers you mean Dillon from Predator Carl Weathers. Not Apollo Creed lol

The kommando nob in kill team is also a homage to Dillion

Shiv from the Last chancers is pretty much Billy ( Sonny Landham ) from predator, too

Everybody understood the reference but you needed apparently a FAQ.

Well some people understand the difference between an actor and a character

Karol wrote:

Spoiler:

Leto II an emperor with a galaxy spaning psychic powers and plans for the entire human race. The setting has religious female warriors, genetic moded super warriors, a secretive engineer faction that hides the fact that it is still building AI, there are navigators required for trans space travel who are a gene moded part of humanity, that slowly mutate the more they use their power. They have special thrones to keep them alive when they are in their end stage of mutation etc

All of this things can be said about the w40k setting too.

That doesn't mean that w40k lore is just Dune,

Spoiler:

but there is difference between we took historic entity like Alexander the Great and make a IG Commander based on the story. And RT art of Sisters of Battle looking like art of Fish Speakers from the Dune books

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