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My local store is having a casual 30k tournament in a few weeks and I'm trying to figure out the best dreadnought list to bring. What mix of contemptors and other dreads should I bring? What legion would be best to run them as?

Hmmm…I suspect a Poe.

If you want to do Fury of the Ancients, you’ll need a minimum of 3 Contemptors.

1 for HQ, 2 as single model Talons for your Compulsory Troops.

Weapons wise? They’re all pretty decent. Though on a purely personal level I don’t take anything Bolt/Bolter when there’s Volkite on the menu.

Leviathan. Cyclonic Melta Lance + Siege Claw + Phosfex. Stick it in a Dreadclaw and deep strike it. Raise Hell.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If you want to do Fury of the Ancients, you’ll need a minimum of 3 Contemptors.

Definitely using the RoW. But should I fill out the rest of the slots with more contemptors after covering the mandatory three, or branch out into other types?


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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Leviathan. Cyclonic Melta Lance + Siege Claw + Phosfex. Stick it in a Dreadclaw and deep strike it. Raise Hell.

Sounds like a win. Do you take just one and feel that more is diminishing returns, or do you take multiple for redundancy and making sure to get as many copies of your best units on the table as possible?

It depends.

The Contemptor is your flexible friend. Depending on your budget, skill with magnets and preferences for weapons, each kit you buy can be made super flexible.

A single Talon could, potentially, be armed like a Swiss Army Knife, a gun or fist for every occasion.

The Leviathan and Deredeo are more dedicated chassis. Very good at what they do, but only at doing that.

I’ve bought bits to do my own Fury of the Ancients. So far I’ve plumped for 7 Contemptors. Because I bloody love that model, and have since I first played 2nd Ed Epic when I was just a snivvelin’ lirrul Grot.

I do have a magnetised Leviathan as well though, for a little extra muscle.


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But I would warn you. Contemptors in particular are considered over powered, so if as you say it is a casual event, you might not be making many friends.

 Conscript #760714 wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Leviathan. Cyclonic Melta Lance + Siege Claw + Phosfex. Stick it in a Dreadclaw and deep strike it. Raise Hell.

Sounds like a win. Do you take just one and feel that more is diminishing returns, or do you take multiple for redundancy and making sure to get as many copies of your best units on the table as possible?

Just the one, as Terror Assault only allows 1 HS option. So, I make it count.

I suspect this is a gakpost intended to rile people up, as you're hitting all the key points that will. So i'm going to curtail giving you any actual advice as I don't wish to encourage that sort of behaviour.

What I will say though is that in the event that it's not a gakpost and you are legitimately looking to take a FotA list out of apparent ignorance, then I would like to point out that FotA is, at the moment, one of the most powerful 30k formations and is probably the fastest way in 30k to lose willing opponents. Furthermore, any good TO/EO will either block such a list or impose further restrictions on it. So check with said organiser first to find out if such a list would be allowed.
If you're out just to grief other players with a minmaxed face-stomping list, or (more likely) are trying to cause mischief here on this forum, then do every one a favour and kindly don't.

 Snrub wrote:
I suspect this is a shitpost intended to rile people up, as you're hitting all the key points that will. So i'm going to curtail giving you any actual advice as I don't wish to encourage that sort of behaviour.

What I will say though is that in the event that it's not a shitpost and you are legitimately looking to take a FotA list out of apparent ignorance, then I would like to point out that FotA is, at the moment, one of the most powerful 30k formations and is probably the fastest way in 30k to lose willing opponents. Furthermore, any good TO/EO will either block such a list or impose further restrictions on it. So check with said organiser first to find out if such a list would be allowed.
If you're out just to grief other players with a minmaxed dickstomping list, or (more likely) are trying to cause mischief here on this forum, then do every one a favour and kindly don't.

Let's be honest her, FotA is only a problem because contemptors are utterly ridicoulous and having possible 6 of them with line that can contest up to 6 diffrent objectives is ridicoulus.

The other dreads are far less problematic.


That said, in a tournament go for this list if you feel like you want to run on autopilot.
In casual or normal settings, keep it to 1 contemptor / 1000 ptsatmost if you want to have friends left as you said

 Snrub wrote:
I would like to point out that FotA is, at the moment, one of the most powerful 30k formations

Well yes, that's why everyone is taking it.

Furthermore, any good TO/EO will either block such a list or impose further restrictions on it.

Fortunately the TO in my area is not a scrub and doesn't ban lists just for being good, we play the game as written.


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BTW, if anyone has advice on printing 30k armies: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/808949.page#11494370

 Conscript #760714 wrote:
casual 30k tournament

 Conscript #760714 wrote:
I'm trying to figure out the best dreadnought list to bring.

Seriously though; low quality bait, sir.

Joined 2days ago. His posts. Yep he's just to cause trouble. Classic troll who isn't even pretending not to be

So now anyone who doesn't play the game the way you do must be trolling? So much for 30k having a good community, I guess it just got all of the CAAC comp scoring whiners we kicked out of 40k.

If you are expecting an FotA list, you can beat it handsomely. Point is in a casual tournament nobody will expect such a list.

Despite spoiling the game for casual and new players, the major drawback of an FotA list is:
If you win the list will have won, never you. Anybody can win with such a list. And you can't even take credit for originality.
If you do not win you will be the douchebag who played a FotA list and didn't win. Regardless whether you win or not for casual players you will not be considered somebody to look up to or to play against.
It's a loose /loose situation - except if you don't care for casual players.

I'm ok with somebody playing a FotA list, if he tells me before, but bringing it as a surprise is IMHO bad style.

You will see how it goes, perhaps you will meet somebody like-mined at the tournament.

Let us know how it went and how your list was received, perhaps our expectations are completely wrong.

all its going to take to beat the FoA list is someone who knows they will be mid to lower end anyway and doesn't care being tolled up to deal with it.

have seen such "hard" lists in other events, they do well but they seldom win as invariably they face someone who set out to hunt such a list accepting they were not going to win anyway.

in effect its a self correcting issue, if one or two expect it they will be ready for it and thats mid table sorted while others who are building a list around an actual style of play they fully understand tend to do better with something more flexible