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Basic army deals save you:

UCM: 9.50p
Scourge: 4.50p
PHR: 5.00p
Shaltari: 6.50p

The rules would have to be pretty bad to prevent me from buying WAY TOO MUCH of this stuff.

I was looking at some N scale terrain and I think I'd like to fight scourge vs shatari in this little 50's town:

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/NBuilt-N-ReadyStructures

Something about the B-movie vibe just makes me smile.

Charax wrote:

Fix wrote:To compare buying the various army deals vs. buying up later, based off the PHR lists:

Does that apply to the Scourge deals too? they mention the larger deals have a different makeup to the other forces

The Scourge Mega vs Large+piecemeal is a 68 Pound savings, assuming you get the squad of Minders shown in the pic that isn't listed on the page.

Edit:
Shaltari is 33 Pounds for the Mega
UCM is 41 if the Wolverines in the pic are included.

Surtur wrote:I was looking at some N scale terrain and I think I'd like to fight scourge vs shatari in this little 50's town:

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/NBuilt-N-ReadyStructures

Something about the B-movie vibe just makes me smile.

Woah, wtf...those buildings are $60-70 each. I sure hope the Dropzone Commander terrain doesn't cost that damn much per building. Anyone wanna look back at one of those impressive pics with the huge assortment of buildings and attempt to price that out if they are? lmao

Those are premade, their non pre made is about a 3rd from what I glimpsed at.

Yeah there are plenty of decent model railway buildings out there which are suitable, the prebuilt stuff from woodland scenics is a rip off though. However the rest of their range is available for a very reasonable price ($20/£13ish for a decent sized basic building).

Still pretty pricy.

http://www.hovelsltd.co.uk/10mmrange.htm makes some nice and Cheap buildings in arabic, european and 'fantasy' style (includes pyramids and sphinxes)

Prices: 3+ euros for unpainted buildings 10+ for painted.
150mm (6 inches) high pyramid for 13,5 euros.

A little on the pricey side, but nothing obscene. I'll be picking up some stuff for 15mm gaming (The Scourge worms, walkers and tiny flying things will make interesting aliens) and the prices are not too out there. I doubt I'll bother with the actual game, but the models (Especially those mechs) will no doubt find a home in games of FUBAR or Gruntz.

Depending on the size of armies that are to be used in this game, I might consider picking it up. If the army set deals are any showing it maybe about $200-$250 for a full army? A pretty cheap game overall.

Surtur wrote:I was looking at some N scale terrain and I think I'd like to fight scourge vs shatari in this little 50's town:

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/NBuilt-N-ReadyStructures

Something about the B-movie vibe just makes me smile.

You like you will spend twice as much on building as for both armies.

It's times like this that I remember I haven't bought any gaming stuff at full retail in years....

buying new is very different from eBay dumpster diving...

Wrong thread...

*walks off pretending nothing happened here...*

Price is good. A Poseiden is $30 - and its about 5 inches square - the size of a landraider basically, and half the price. Now, granted, a GW vehicle kit is great value during the construction and conversion process, and I don't see the poseiden as quite as good in that regard, being simpler due to the scale.

You get a figure about the size of a space marine for $7-8 bucks as a walker. That's about twice the cheapest plastic GW figures, but its in resin. Its half what you would pay for finecast. You also have units of 4 models, not 10 - and roughly the same number of units.

The $350 AU price comparisons were pretty telling. While I like the DE box set, its barely enough for a small game. The DZC mega deals appear to have pretty much everything you would ever want.

The only price that offends me is the infantry, actually. You're paying more than a dollar for a shaltari brave - barely more than a cm tall. Still, its not that bad compared to bitz prices, really.

I'll probably start out with the rules like most, but I will check out a model or two when the warstore has them. I may also scratch build some stuff, as is usually my wont. UCM dropships in particular are expensive, numerous, and not that cool looking.

It will probably be a while before anyone is playing in this part of the world, but a lack of patience has never been a virtue in a miniatures gamer. : )

There were a few units I hadn't seen before, like the Shaltari gunship.

I really like the fluff, although I will agree the writing was not the best (although easily as good as most wargame text) The UCM stuff made a great deal of sense. The low observable tanks with the driver lying down are brilliant. The lack of chainsaw wielding crazies is a welcome change. I like the Shaltari fluff especially.

I'm liking this more with each figure I go over, the website may have taken time and I suspect still has a few tweaks (many people have commented some of the deals don't match the pictures) but I'm interested. My only problem will be finding other players, I can see me buying 2 armies, which is going to get expensive. I may have to make the decisision DzC or 40K this year.

I would agree with many on here however it will have to await the rules. I would love to see a PDF with the basic rules on and a few units details to give a flavour. However I can see me buying a copy of the rules and units details and proxying some old Mechwarrior Hero Klix stuff for a play.

That said the guy must be mad, this is a one man labour of love! I dearly hope this works for him, I am a little envious of his energy and stamina! Kudos!

Yeah, I can't believe 1 guy sculpted, painted, took all those pics, put them on the site, etc etc...

If he is a fraction as devoted to the rules, I bet we'll all be very satisfied.

Also this might be interesting to some people.


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I just spotted this read the op, watched the BOW interview and checked out the website. I'll probably be buying a PHR army in the near future.

AustonT wrote:I just spotted this read the op, watched the BOW interview and checked out the website. I'll probably be buying a PHR army in the near future.

I don't believe you.


All kidding aside, do you know some else buying an army too?

This game might take a while before getting to "easy pick up game status".

It almost seems necessary to buy 2 factions do you can go out and demo...

Prices are up at the warstore. Seems pretty reasonable.

With these prices I will be picking up all the basic army deals. As long as they keep those up I can build on to them. This way I can convert people to my cause with this AMAZING game, no to mention I have already began corrupting my FLGS to this game. mwuhahahaha

@ALpharius

Wait, you liked Confrontation rules? I played 3rd ed, and it was AWFUL! hahah. Oh well, different strokes for different folks.

I enjoyed Conf3 (having not played earlier versions), but didn't play Ragnarok.

I wish they had something more about rules or army composition than what the FAQ has. I'd like to know why the PHR starter has four Type-1 walkers, while the large and mega are primarily Type-2 walkers.

Type-1's are the real workhorse, there are more of them available then type 2's since type-2's seem to be upgrades of type-1's.

Another reason is that if you look at these army wise a starter army is what a new commander would be given to use in a small skirmish where he/she could prove their worth. I am also thinkin of points wise as well. The army deals seem to have a varying amount of models that equal around a certain point value.

Non-Europeans might be interested to learn that I just got word from Maelstrom Games that they will be stocking this game.

This is important for two reasons: One, they have free international shipping for anything over ten pounds. And two, they've currently got a 20% off sale for non-Europeans.

Once they're up, I'll be getting a pair of Enyos and a pair of Taranis.

AlexHolker wrote:Non-Europeans might be interested to learn that I just got word from Maelstrom Games that they will be stocking this game.

This is important for two reasons: One, they have free international shipping for anything over ten pounds. And two, they've currently got a 20% off sale for non-Europeans.

Once they're up, I'll be getting a pair of Enyos and a pair of Taranis.

Good, then I'll wait and order the rulebook from them. If the rules are good there will follow a big order of lovely miniatures! Any word on WHEN they will stock it? From release day and on perhaps?

Sorry, they only used the words "in the near future". Hopefully that means they start taking preorders on Monday, or at least before their sale finishes.

The army deals look well constructed. For example, at first glance it looks annoying that you don't get light dropships or walkers with the Shaltari, but due to the way the gates work, that is a good thing. Although a large portion of the shaltari force is unarmed!

Well for me Maelstom is up the road, so may have to pop in for a look when they have stock