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 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

The guns in question are often more valuable than the person holding them so who cares? Buildings are expensive though.

pm713 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

The guns in question are often more valuable than the person holding them so who cares? Buildings are expensive though.

Load bearing walls are canonically heresy in 40k so maybe making OSHA cry is a design goal?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

'Brother Techmarine! All of those rocket-flamer-drop-bunkers you ditched our perfectly serviceable Deathwind pods for have exploded in the air or as soon as they landed!'
'Fear not brother. The Omnissiah cares not for safety.'

 ClockworkZion wrote:

pm713 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

The guns in question are often more valuable than the person holding them so who cares? Buildings are expensive though.

Load bearing walls are canonically heresy in 40k so maybe making OSHA cry is a design goal?

What? What's that from? That seems odd even for 40k, I mean the load needs bearing somewhere right? Do they magic it all somewhere else???

Orbital drop brick is now the dumbest design in the marine arsenal. On account of being a brick with no deceleration anything, some random nonfunctional fins just to visually tie it to the drop pod, and nonfunctional legs that apparently come collapsed and then deploy to do absolutely nothing.

 Sasori wrote:

Spoiler:

Seems the floodgates have opened.

LOL wtf were they on about on the stream?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Orbital drop brick is now the dumbest design in the marine arsenal. On account of being a brick with no deceleration anything, some random nonfunctional fins just to visually tie it to the drop pod, and nonfunctional legs that apparently come collapsed and then deploy to do absolutely nothing.

Someones never played Dawn of War!

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

Spoiler:

Seems the floodgates have opened.

LOL wtf were they on about on the stream?

Could you expand on that? (Not being snarky, honestly don't know)

Dang. Psykers and psyker units that kill themselves due to Perils cause D3 mortal wounds to all units within 6" of them.

Hehe, the Daemon stratagem that causes psykers to take 2d3 mortal wounds for perils instead of a D3 is now more valuable.

That's the only change I see to psychic.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

'Brother Techmarine! All of those rocket-flamer-drop-bunkers you ditched our perfectly serviceable Deathwind pods for have exploded in the air or as soon as they landed!'
'Fear not brother. The Omnissiah cares not for safety.'

Last line should've been "The Omnissiah wills it" and you'd have been pretty correct.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Orbital drop brick is now the dumbest design in the marine arsenal. On account of being a brick with no deceleration anything, some random nonfunctional fins just to visually tie it to the drop pod, and nonfunctional legs that apparently come collapsed and then deploy to do absolutely nothing.

Annoyingly the concept could have worked - have them deployed via Thunderhawk Transporter, and then have the legs lift if off the ground slightly in order to level it.
(Plus ditch the non-functional fins and presumably pointless vision ports).

Doohicky wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

Spoiler:

Seems the floodgates have opened.

LOL wtf were they on about on the stream?

Could you expand on that? (Not being snarky, honestly don't know)

They were being all cheeky about the term 'warp charge' as if something was changing, but it looks like nothing changed (other than better wording).

Where is the drop brick? The image from the previous page is broken.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Orbital drop brick is now the dumbest design in the marine arsenal. On account of being a brick with no deceleration anything, some random nonfunctional fins just to visually tie it to the drop pod, and nonfunctional legs that apparently come collapsed and then deploy to do absolutely nothing.

Annoyingly the concept could have worked - have them deployed via Thunderhawk Transporter, and then have the legs lift if off the ground slightly in order to level it.
(Plus ditch the non-functional fins and presumably pointless vision ports).

It would take as little as putting a Repulsor grav plate on each corner instead of the legs to make it at least in-universe sensible, if not real world sensible. But it's not even that. Or ideally it would look like something that transformed into a turret from a Drop Poddy shape after touchdown.

I wonder if we’re effectively only seeing the “top” of the turret and the idea is that it doesn’t decelerate, buries itself and then the “legs” pull it up level.

If that’s how it works, it’s not been executed very well but.... maybe?

yukishiro1 wrote:
Vex mask is also one unit within 6". A targeted ASL that you don't even need to be in combat to use (unlike Armor of Russ) is incredibly powerful against a combat army. A lot of armies just have no real answer to it.

I mean, it's on a mediocre close combat character in an army that isn't great a close combat in general (or at the very least prefers shooting quite a bit). It'll feth up something like a unit of Boyz or Banshees, but most real CQC units won't care all that much.

jivardi wrote:
Dang. Psykers and psyker units that kill themselves due to Perils cause D3 mortal wounds to all units within 6" of them.

Hehe, the Daemon stratagem that causes psykers to take 2d3 mortal wounds for perils instead of a D3 is now more valuable.

That's the only change I see to psychic.

That's been in the whole of 8th edition! Or have I gone mad and imagined it?

jivardi wrote:
Dang. Psykers and psyker units that kill themselves due to Perils cause D3 mortal wounds to all units within 6" of them.

Hehe, the Daemon stratagem that causes psykers to take 2d3 mortal wounds for perils instead of a D3 is now more valuable.

That's the only change I see to psychic.

Thought they always did that.


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Mr Insomniac wrote:
I wonder if we’re effectively only seeing the “top” of the turret and the idea is that it doesn’t decelerate, buries itself and then the “legs” pull it up level.

If that’s how it works, it’s not been executed very well but.... maybe?

I kinda love it, not gonna lie. Unless those are flamers on the outside of it, then it's just kinda stupid.

ERJAK wrote:

jivardi wrote:
Dang. Psykers and psyker units that kill themselves due to Perils cause D3 mortal wounds to all units within 6" of them.

Hehe, the Daemon stratagem that causes psykers to take 2d3 mortal wounds for perils instead of a D3 is now more valuable.

That's the only change I see to psychic.

Thought they always did that.

For all of 8th.

Unless I missed something obvious, it appears you can multi-smite with the same character now.

pm713 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

pm713 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

The guns in question are often more valuable than the person holding them so who cares? Buildings are expensive though.

Load bearing walls are canonically heresy in 40k so maybe making OSHA cry is a design goal?

What? What's that from? That seems odd even for 40k, I mean the load needs bearing somewhere right? Do they magic it all somewhere else???

From "Death of Antagonis":

So, we have three options here.

Either the "can't modify below 1" rule/FAQ is gone, and Plasma now only overheats 1/6th of a time (it just overheats on a 2 instead of a 1)...

Or Terminators now have effective 2++ saves.

Or we might be lucky and a core rule prevents the Sv characteristic from being modified to better than 2+.

I don't know which one I am more afraid of.

LTs are BS2+ now

 Kanluwen wrote:

Warhammer Community Team confirmed via Twitter that it will be releasing at the same time as the box.

I don't know why they did not put it in the article. Maybe the book by itself goes up for preorder on the 18th rather than the 11th?

Good to hear that. But yeah it is odd they did not mention it in the article.

PiñaColada wrote:
LTs are BS2+ now

Why the feth is a leutnant now BS and WS 2?

not to mention storm shields, but it is perfeclty fine that a exalted champion has only bs 3+ and none?

Doohicky wrote:

jivardi wrote:
Dang. Psykers and psyker units that kill themselves due to Perils cause D3 mortal wounds to all units within 6" of them.

Hehe, the Daemon stratagem that causes psykers to take 2d3 mortal wounds for perils instead of a D3 is now more valuable.

That's the only change I see to psychic.

That's been in the whole of 8th edition! Or have I gone mad and imagined it?

I guess I never had psykers pop from perils so I never encountered it. And my rulebook is too far away and buried to be bothered.

My bad.

Overlords movement buff is an Aura now, and MWBD can affect everything, not just Infantry.

Doomsday Ark hitting on 2's goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

 ClockworkZion wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

pm713 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How do you drop that through an atmosphere without it all exploding..?

DoW just has everything drop from orbit.

Which is kind of dumb, but concessions have to be made for the sake of gameplay. Even then, the Marine structures have drop rigs around them, whereas this thing has the stabilisation vanes from the top of a drop pod built into it half way up; with a bunch of rockets strapped to the top, and it's filled with promethium!

I mean when has 40k ever really cared about safety? They have guns that might explode on the user.

The guns in question are often more valuable than the person holding them so who cares? Buildings are expensive though.

Load bearing walls are canonically heresy in 40k so maybe making OSHA cry is a design goal?

What? What's that from? That seems odd even for 40k, I mean the load needs bearing somewhere right? Do they magic it all somewhere else???

From "Death of Antagonis":

Wow, they forgot how walls work. Mind you that is on brand. Although if he is dead then Dorn must be spinning in his grave.

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