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 akwing00 wrote:
Fleshhounds went down 5 points, no changes to bloodcrushers is unfortunate but I'll take it

Same I am pumped about the hounds especially since I have 20 of them. Dissapointed in Crushers and confused as to why a Lord of Change with a Bale Sword is cheaper than a thirster.

I also have 20 FHs. Glad I can use em again. If crushers dropped in points I was gonna go pick up a bunch but hey saved myself a bunch. Might grab 10 more hounds actually now.

The possibility of point drops in the future isn't out of the question too. Who knows.


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I'm actually just super excited at the prospect of using a BT and Skarbrand for once!

Karanak 70 points

Bloodletters 5ppm? Are you serious? Like. WTF? For that cost you don't even need fething deepstrike. Just spam 150 bloodletters and run them across the board.

I don't think the blood letters and daemonettes 5 ppm thing is accurate. Source?

Also, does anyone have a link to the text review as opposed to a video?

 Galas wrote:
Bloodletters 5ppm? Are you serious? Like. WTF? For that cost you don't even need fething deepstrike. Just spam 150 bloodletters and run them across the board.

No, he isn't.
Letters and crabgirls are 7. still good, not quite as good as 5.

Karnak actually is 70 though.

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Bloodletters 5ppm? Are you serious? Like. WTF? For that cost you don't even need fething deepstrike. Just spam 150 bloodletters and run them across the board.

No, he isn't.
Letters and crabgirls are 7. still good, not quite as good as 5.

This guy says they went down 2 ppm each: https://youtu.be/7rA2ql0GQmY?t=35m47shttps://youtu.be/7rA2ql0GQmY?t=35m47s

Edit: exact time stamp link.

I was about to freak at 5ppm Letters. Just spam 30man squads.


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 andysonic1 wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Bloodletters 5ppm? Are you serious? Like. WTF? For that cost you don't even need fething deepstrike. Just spam 150 bloodletters and run them across the board.

No, he isn't.
Letters and crabgirls are 7. still good, not quite as good as 5.

This guy says they went down 2 ppm each: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=262&v=7rA2ql0GQmY

2ppm from the index, to 7.

Ok, ok, 7 points. NVM.

 andysonic1 wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Bloodletters 5ppm? Are you serious? Like. WTF? For that cost you don't even need fething deepstrike. Just spam 150 bloodletters and run them across the board.

No, he isn't.
Letters and crabgirls are 7. still good, not quite as good as 5.

This guy says they went down 2 ppm each: https://youtu.be/7rA2ql0GQmY?t=35m47shttps://youtu.be/7rA2ql0GQmY?t=35m47s

Edit: exact time stamp link.

Because he's a dumbass that gives a "changed by X" from the index price, not considering the price changed in the FAQ rather than saying the actual price.

Video I watched was 7 PPM, only comparing it to the index.

Karanak did go down to 70 points though.

WELP still good with the Flesh Hound and Karanak point drops.

yeah that's really nice. i have a boatload of doggies.

I have 20 doggos from my Deamonkin days. Now I might actually run all 20 of them in front of my AoBF Juggerlord and JuggerHerald with the Crown. Toss in Karanak because at 70 points hes a steal.Go 30 /10 /10 Bloodletter units for a big bomb and some midfield objective holders. Bikes with Plasma rolling next to the Juggerlord or a Bikerlord, Berzerkers in Rhinos, DROP PODS RAINING FROM THE SKY?!!?

DEAMONKIN RISING REVENGENCE

Yessss! I guess the other guy missed the points drop for hounds, and I'm glad that's the case. That's far more reasonable. Still, no scout move, but they're usable for sure.

Be sure to write the GW team with feedback re: bloodcrushers and whatever else.

Any news on more Tzeentch stuff?

with the increase in damage output, and drop in points are skull cannons worth taking now?


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Also not sure if it was said already but the +1 Invulnerable strategum is 2 CP. Still pretty solid, use it on a BT or Skarbrand once he's deep striked, if they don't make that charge

I really don't like being forced to take mono-god detachments to unlock chapter tactic- like abilities. If you fill out the troop slots on a battallion with usable units (I.e., 20+ models each), take two heralds and a GD or DP, that's going to be pushing 900-1000 points. If you add any other roles such as fast attack or heavy, you basically have a very one dimensional army with little variety.

Imagine if Space Marine armies had to restrict their army to 1/4 of the codex units to unlock chapter tactics.

Couldn't resist!

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Any news on more Tzeentch stuff?

Slapping the Endless Grimoire on a Tzeentch Herald so you can get the 2 psychic powers you want to cast on one cheap HQ is probably the best for the relics. I'd consider the Impossible Robe is the Lord of Change was worth taking but... you know.

Now, how am I going to fit a Nurgle Daemons detachment in my list so I can deep strike Morty?

 Luciferian wrote:
Now, how am I going to fit a Nurgle Daemons detachment in my list so I can deep strike Morty?

Patrol detachment with Herald and Nurglings?

 Luciferian wrote:
Now, how am I going to fit a Nurgle Daemons detachment in my list so I can deep strike Morty?

supcom, herald, herald, herald? bonus is each one gets the locus ability to buff all your DG with the nurgle and daemon keywords.....

 Arachnofiend wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Any news on more Tzeentch stuff?

Slapping the Endless Grimoire on a Tzeentch Herald so you can get the 2 psychic powers you want to cast on one cheap HQ is probably the best for the relics. I'd consider the Impossible Robe is the Lord of Change was worth taking but... you know.

Bah, this is making me sad.

I was hoping there'd be a weapon relic that could boost the LOC to usable levels but our only weapon replaces the herald's ritual dagger of all things. Tzeentch will probably be a pretty good shooting army with pink horrors and exalted flamers, but GW definitely seems to have failed to make a good psychic army.

The Tzeentch Psyker powers seem really underwhelming

The Soulstealer Sword artefact on a Slaanesh Daemon Prince seems pretty awesome. S+1 AP -3 3D and heal a wound every time you kill a model. Give him the D3 extra attacks on the charge warlord trait and you've got a pretty scary prince.

 andysonic1 wrote:
WELP still good with the Flesh Hound and Karanak point drops.

Now they just need a plastic kit for both of those. Maybe when Angron and World Eaters come along...

Re: Tzeench: it looks like pinks might be down to 7?

drakerocket wrote:
Re: Tzeench: it looks like pinks might be down to 7?

Pinks were already down to 7, that was a Chapter Approved change. The big buff for them is that in a unit of 20+ their guns become Assault 3. Probably the best idea is to run a big blob of 30 pinks to deep strike in and clear a screen and use minimum squads of brimstones to fill out detachment requirements.