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Excited for Armada news. Its this close to being a game I can be excited about, but needs just a little extra meat. I'm hoping the addition of flyers and magic will do the trick.

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I don't have time right now to go through the near 2 hours worth but here's the Armada and KoW previews






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Halflings

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Armada roadmap:
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Edit: kind of ninjaed, just leave the pics that Dave is missing

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Looking forward to the elf fleet and the Salamander fleet. The halflings look fun so far, but I’m not sure how many I need since I have some WGA halflings already.

   
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Intresting piece of fluff for Salamanders

Elfes thought to be the best on the oceans until the met Salamanders who are equal (or better) as it turned out that they come from a bigger Empire in the east to Mantica and have a history of Seafarers

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Salamanders look pretty "mantic", not a fan.

The halflings are much better, some very cool and surprising units like the grenadiers and troll gunners. That Aralez is just a dog though, and super tiny as something that is currently large cavalry

   
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 Illumini wrote:
That Aralez is just a dog though, and super tiny as something that is currently large cavalry

it is the Halfling version of the Aralez, a special breed that is smaller to the original to fit the Halfling needs

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Didn't pull the trigger on Armada (yet?) but those new boats are fantastic.
   
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I LOVE the halflings, love that Armada is getting exactly what I hoped it would, and am exciting for that KoW road-map.

I'm cautiously hoping that KoW silhouette is an expansion of Empire of Dust, as it seems to be a Manticore or Chimera of some sort?

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These halflings looks great. I love the harvester and troll gunners.
   
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I was surprised when they revealed the trolls.

They confirmed on the stream that the halfling army plays a bit similar to goblins and that core halflings are cheap (and trolls are expensive ).

Which is why I'm not sure about their idea of making a plastic box that can make 10 infantry AND 5 cavalry. It seems like you'll need a lot of infantry, but how many cavalry units do you really need ? I don't believe it's the same quota.

I know, I can make a multibase regiment / horde with half the miniatures really needed, but I don't think units look good with a few sparse miniatures here and there like they were skirmishers.

Otherwise, for not playing KoW, this plastic box will be really neat.

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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I'm cautiously hoping that KoW silhouette is an expansion of Empire of Dust, as it seems to be a Manticore or Chimera of some sort?
My assumption is it's finally a Varangur model from Mantic Hyped either way, great teaser!

Also dig all the dogs in the Halfling release! Unexpected!

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 Boss Salvage wrote:
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I'm cautiously hoping that KoW silhouette is an expansion of Empire of Dust, as it seems to be a Manticore or Chimera of some sort?
My assumption is it's finally a Varangur model from Mantic Hyped either way, great teaser!

Also dig all the dogs in the Halfling release! Unexpected!


Good call. I forget that even a few kits and a few upgrade sets for Northern Alliance models could make for a wonderful Varangur line.

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Man, can I really afford to get all the Mantic ships for Armada?

Can I really afford *not* to????

Keen to see fliers, magic and the details of the new book. Those are auto-buys!

I wanna wait until I see more salamander ships as those tiny sails look odd. Interested, but not thrilled about 'em.

The Twilight Kin and Elves look great.

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I was a hair away from buying hard into Armada as it was, but the support for the game looks amazing, the releases have been awesome, and they seem to be making good additions to fleshing the system out.

I feel like I may end up placing a giant order. Any idea what the large/normal game size is? I feel like whatever size expands beyond 4x4 is the right one as maneuverability is the lifeblood of games like this.

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200-250 points is a standard game. Ship costs are all over the place (tiny ships are <10 points, Large are 60-70 pts and I don't know what the XL are, but in a podcast Matt Gilbert said they hovered at or just over 100pts)

The 200pt games I've played had 5-7 ships on the table, per side, and were very manageable. If you get the starter and booster, you're set to go. Now you can get singles if you want, since the game sold well, so if there are particular ships that really float your boat you'll be able to load up on 'em without having to buy a full boxed set

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I suspect we'll go in hard once Mantic posts preorders for the new book and flyers, so we can get it all in one shot.

Do 250pt games still play on a 4x4 single neoprene mat?

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For what it is worth, the tournament pack clarified all my questions. Mantic does indeed consider 250pts on 4x4 the "standard" full game, and the game requires a minimum of five ships at that size (so no taking 3 unkillable big boys).

I didn't want to wait, and my research into Dystopian Wars was an unflattering comparison where even base Armada seems like the more robust game. We ended up getting two of each bundle for Empire of Dust and Orcs, and I figure we'll get some games in before the flyers and such launch.

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How does it work with the initiative being based on where the ships are - its seems quite strange mechanism?

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the ship that is better in the wind having the advantage is "fluffy" and the wind changing randomly helps for random activation

not more strange than drawing markers out of bag for Bolt Action

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Exactly. The base wind rules just create a bit of activation fog-of-war which is fluffy and abstract. The full wind rules turn it into a more complex game mechanic that is optional as it mucks with balance a bit (some ships have engines which suddenly make them notably better).

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I found I really like the mechanism. If you're a good player, you can accelerate past your opponent to improve your position (i.e., move "upwind") and that ship will get to go first relative to its victim (assuming the wind does not change significantly!). This wasn't a major part of our game, but it was kinda fun to go second, see where your enemy stops, and (if well positioned!) speed up to gain the initiative the next turn.

I've never played a system that does wind well (by which I mean: fun), so I'm grateful for this simple system. There is an advanced wind system that we haven't tried, but affects ships with sails more. As it is, ships with engines or oars have a little more maneuverability than do their sailed counterparts. Simple and fun!

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Precisely as I hoped for, the new Magic rules sound absolutely wonderful, and should add a lot of depth to the game!

https://www.manticgames.com/news/how-does-the-magic-deck-work-in-armada/?fbclid=IwAR00yIosrgVfTzMstLwLdCUFhtDKvjDPXPxVs9OGL2vaLU2cK6BFsX6o4nw

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Didn't Mantic announce a price rise the other day?

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 lord marcus wrote:
Didn't Mantic announce a price rise the other day?


Yes
https://www.manticgames.com/news/price-changes-are-incoming/

In some cases, the price is only going up by 1p to round it up from £19.99 to £20 – this is just to make it easier when putting the catalogue together. Others are going up by £2.50 and there are a few that will increase more – this is generally where there are number of factors putting pressure on the end price. However, in every case we’ve tried to keep the increases sensible and still offer great value products.

We’ll be implementing the price rises on our website and to our retail partners from August 1st..
   
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Really appreciate how honest and open Mantic (Ronnie) is about this side of business.

Price increases are never nice, but being told about them inadvance does take the sting out of them somewhat.

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I won't begrudge them, especially as some models are clearly mispriced. The now famous over-sized Giant kit is literally a third of GW's similar offering (in terms of volume of plastic, box size, etc...) Them asking for $5 more for it still leaves it as an absolute steal.


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Oh, an another preview of the new supplement!

https://www.manticgames.com/news/five-reasons-all-armada-players-need-the-new-seas-aflame-supplement/?fbclid=IwAR3Xe4fCOiOrSQgCEda_bFV0ykQvWPJsY1NM4HvyLOCZXK760f4GflwcPNI

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In other news, Victoria Games, the french distributor of Mantic Games products, announced they stopped translating / distributing Mantic Games products.

No more official french version of KoW. Sad.

Victoria Games said they had a conflict with Mantic Games about providing products for a Kickstarter they made for the french version of the current edition of KoW. Apparently by Victoria Games, Mantic Games (and thus our great Ronnie some say he was transparent with price increases ) didn't want to assume / deliver some sales that were made for the Kickstarter.

That, we don't have a blog from Ronnie talking about in advance. So much for transparence and honesty.

More seriously, we don't have Mantic Games' version about this pitiful end and Victoria Games is known to have made a lot of promises that weren't kept.


A sad, sad day for the KoW french community.

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