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BrookM wrote:Aaron Dembski-Bowden just unveiled the title of his next Horus Heresy novel: BETRAYER.

Any details on what it is about?

Because with that title, well, it could be just about anyone/anything!

This is what he posted:

It's Xmas and I'm feeling generous. My next Heresy novel will be called... Betrayer. Guess the main character.

Merry Christmas indeed.

Alpharius wrote:

BrookM wrote:Aaron Dembski-Bowden just unveiled the title of his next Horus Heresy novel: BETRAYER.

Any details on what it is about?

Because with that title, well, it could be just about anyone/anything!

My money is Horus. He's been acting funny since Davin. I can't put my finger on it but I think he's up to something.

warboss wrote:My money is Horus. He's been acting funny since Davin. I can't put my finger on it but I think he's up to something.

I don't know I feel like we're



forgetting someone.

Officially he didn't exactly earn that title until after the Heresy, when mister angry-face personally broke up his own Legion in a hissy bitch fit. Could be wrong though, fluff gets taken out back by uncle so and so with a purty dress and make up a lot these days.

I don't think this'll cover the splintering of the World Eaters, but instead perhaps covers his downfall to madness?

BrookM wrote:Officially he didn't exactly earn that title until after the Heresy, when mister angry-face personally broke up his own Legion in a hissy bitch fit. Could be wrong though, fluff gets taken out back by uncle so and so with a purty dress and make up a lot these days.

An extremely colorful AND apt analogy!

I hope it isn't about the angriest of angry marines... but even if it is, in ADB we trust!

It's totally Karn.

Could be Kharn, could be Peturabo, could be Lorgar, could be any number of people.

"Betrayer" was a title handed out like candy during the Heresy.

Typhus, it has to be typhus. Not only was he a betrayer to the Emperor, but also to his legion and it kindof "fits" into where they are at in the timeline... Although i have been drinking so....

Although, it could be anyone like Kan says.

I think it's about Roboute Guilliman. [/mischief]

It's obviously Kharn.

Yes, I'll bet everyone 20 imaginary dollars it's Karn.

Has to be, World Eaters was his dream project when it comes to HH

bhsman wrote:I don't think this'll cover the splintering of the World Eaters, but instead perhaps covers his downfall to madness?

That's pretty well covered already. Everyone knows that Kharn went a bit loopy after Khorne took away his khat. Kharn loooved his khittey, and khittey loooved his Kharn, so when Khorne took Kharn's khittey Kharn went khrazy and khilled many of his khlosest friends. Maybe if Kharn had just sat down and had a talk with Khorne, maybe brought some apple khrumble and khustard as a peace offering, Khorne would have khonveyed the khat back to Kharn, and his life since would have been khonpletely different.

Of khourse, it'll be interesting to see what sort of spin ADB takes on this story, if that is indeed what the khontents of this book will khover.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yes, I'll bet everyone 20 imaginary dollars it's Karn.

I'll just have to take you up on that

Begel Dverl wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yes, I'll bet everyone 20 imaginary dollars it's Karn.

I'll just have to take you up on that

Done. It's not a bill though. 20 imaginary loonies.

I still cannot believe they allowed Gav Thorpe anywhere near a computer to write a HH novel. After trying to read several of his novels I am not wasting money taking a chance on his latest offering. May pick it up at "half price books" if there is nothing else I want to by with the a 25% discount.... possibly.

When it comes to betrayer - maybe betrayer is a term used for describing Emperor. Angron always thought that his father betrayed him, first not allowing him to die with his fellow gladiators, second abandoning the crusade. Maybe then this novel is about what brought World Eaters to heresy and into Khorne arms?
fullheadofhair: they allow Nick Kyme and James Swallow to write HH books and you wonder about Gav Thorpe [who btw is much better then both of them together]?

Hi guys

Having taken a couple of days off to enjoy the company of my family (who are now variously back at work or still in bed as I type this!) just wanted to drop in and hope that you all had a great Christmas and to add wishes for a Happy New Year!

~S~

Thanks very much.

Glad you had a good one.

For those that missed it, the BL advent calendar is for " Shadows of Treachery " which rolls out in November 2012.

You can grab the artwork as a desktop wallpaper here : http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/a-christmas-treat.html

Legion of the Damned is also available in ebook, 4 months earlier than the dead tree version.

automatonsleuth wrote:

That's pretty well covered already. Everyone knows that Kharn went a bit loopy after Khorne took away his khat. Kharn loooved his khittey, and khittey loooved his Kharn, so when Khorne took Kharn's khittey Kharn went khrazy and khilled many of his khlosest friends. Maybe if Kharn had just sat down and had a talk with Khorne, maybe brought some apple khrumble and khustard as a peace offering, Khorne would have khonveyed the khat back to Kharn, and his life since would have been khonpletely different.

Of khourse, it'll be interesting to see what sort of spin ADB takes on this story, if that is indeed what the khontents of this book will khover.

I think your being a bit flippant here, Kharn is quite a deep character. His story is one that a lot of people can relate to...

I hope ADB has the skull to Khonvey this Khoncept.

Medium of Death wrote:

automatonsleuth wrote:

That's pretty well covered already. Everyone knows that Kharn went a bit loopy after Khorne took away his khat. Kharn loooved his khittey, and khittey loooved his Kharn, so when Khorne took Kharn's khittey Kharn went khrazy and khilled many of his khlosest friends. Maybe if Kharn had just sat down and had a talk with Khorne, maybe brought some apple khrumble and khustard as a peace offering, Khorne would have khonveyed the khat back to Kharn, and his life since would have been khonpletely different.

Of khourse, it'll be interesting to see what sort of spin ADB takes on this story, if that is indeed what the khontents of this book will khover.

I think your being a bit flippant here, Kharn is quite a deep character. His story is one that a lot of people can relate to...

I hope ADB has the skull to Khonvey this Khoncept.

Shadow Walker wrote:When it comes to betrayer - maybe betrayer is a term used for describing Emperor. Angron always thought that his father betrayed him, first not allowing him to die with his fellow gladiators, second abandoning the crusade. Maybe then this novel is about what brought World Eaters to heresy and into Khorne arms?
fullheadofhair: they allow Nick Kyme and James Swallow to write HH books and you wonder about Gav Thorpe [who btw is much better then both of them together]?

You may be on to something there. It could refer to The Emperor but the book itself would still be about Karn.

It is more than a bit of a stretch to claim the Emperor is the betrayer in the story and a bigger stretch to think the book will be about him, cast in such a light!

No, The Emperor is the betrayer in Karn's mind.

I suppose Butcher's Nails will do that...

Alpharius wrote:I suppose Butcher's Nails will do that...

No, silly, that is about Angron and his angriness!

I am reading Deliverance Lost now, about halfway through... I must say, the last few Heresy books have been really top notch IMO, their stable of authors has been steadily improving and it has been a pleasure to read them, warts and all. Granted, it's still a 40k book and I am not comparing them to the pinnacle of literary achievement, but a darn fun read for a fan all the same.

Way to go BL, particularly ADB and Thorpe -

Begel Dverl wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I suppose Butcher's Nails will do that...

No, silly, that is about Angron and his angriness!

The Butcher's Nails are the implants every World Eater receives.

BrookM wrote:

Begel Dverl wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I suppose Butcher's Nails will do that...

No, silly, that is about Angron and his angriness!

The Butcher's Nails are the implants every World Eater receives.

I thought that the Butcher's Nails were the twin axes that Angron wielded as a gladiator.