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AT-12 Raider. That's out.

Whoa, Collectors are back! I love shooting those guys.

I KNEW there would be Collectors eventually. They didn't end that arc with the total destruction of the Collectors, only one base. I'll be very interested to see where they go with this.

Ald, we're going to have to farm.

The patch actually made things difficult again!

What has the patch done to make things harder?

I had a couple of throwaway bronze games earlier and didn't see much of note, aside from a bunch of things setting up for retaliation.

- Like the leaderboard 'challenge' rankings
- Character names and designs staying around after promotions
- Duplication warnings on weapon upgrades.

On Silver, I was actually going down playing my Destroyer spec'd for survivability.

You can ask Aldarionn how rare that is unless I get sync killed.

I've had so little time for ME3 lately. I'm going to have to make some more. Borderlands 2 is currently the priority game for me right now but I definitely want to play ME3 for this expansion pack. I just don't want to spend hours farming credits to unlock the stuff I want, which is the biggest problem I'm going to have. I am well and truly tired of the RNG.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Ald, we're going to have to farm.

The patch actually made things difficult again!

Farming is supposedly more difficult (haven't tried playing myself yet). Geth drones that previously did nothing are now mobile flame throwers, pyros can't get grabbed, and both white and glacier are on the list of maps with environmental hazards. I personally expect losts of lightning strikes and collector swarms converging on the counter at the far end of FWB.

The good news is that the releases of characters are going to be staggered.

The 2 Turians and 2 more classes are going to be the first four to unlock on Tuesday. The rest will come gradually according to Priestly.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The good news is that the releases of characters are going to be staggered.

The 2 Turians and 2 more classes are going to be the first four to unlock on Tuesday. The rest will come gradually according to Priestly.

Yeah, I posted that earlier. That's not personally good news for me as the new stuff is all I have to unlock outside of URs but I do think it's better for the community overall. I may want the stuff right away but friends of mine that done play one game at a time (I tend to be single minded with AAA video games) still don't have even all their races unlocked let alone maxed out. A staggered release doesn't thin out the pool as much for those players.

I'll also leave you with the following picture. Just hum Ride of the Valkyries when looking at the jetpackin' Turian!

Mass Effect 3: Retaliation is out now and damn is it difficult.

I was playing on the Reactor level under 'hazard' mode against collectors, on bronze...

Most of the team was relatively high level and... We got our butt kicked. On bronze!

10 seconds from extraction, we got hit by I think it was 2 scions, a possessed scion and a praetorian. We all had to medpac ourselves just to avoid wiping.

On Bronze!

Ha! I just found out you can play as a Volus. That's awesome. Perhaps some day Elcor? They'd be too slow I reckon. (Volus surprisingly nimble!)

Yeah, the Volus are a love/hate character for me right now.

Love:
They're a new playstyle, entirely. They have no melee, practically no shields/health, and are very much a "support" character.
They're like playing the Medic on TF2...if the Medic had even less HP.
They have a unique, relatively, skill set in their abilities.

Hate:
That they were added as frontline troops. The skills could easily and should have been passed to Asari/Salarians, respectively.

Ya...but then you wouldn't have little rotund Volus running around!

That's not a good thing.

The Volus are a joke. The way they act in game, their aesthetic, and their mannerisms all suggest a race of people who avoid physical confrontation at all costs, and prefer to act through agents. They have a relatively strong navy which is not surprising, but I could never see one as an N7 Operative. Personally I think they added them just to appease the people who were calling out for a Biotic God character, and I think it's a little silly.

 Aldarionn wrote:
The Volus are a joke. The way they act in game, their aesthetic, and their mannerisms all suggest a race of people who avoid physical confrontation at all costs, and prefer to act through agents. They have a relatively strong navy which is not surprising, but I could never see one as an N7 Operative. Personally I think they added them just to appease the people who were calling out for a Biotic God character, and I think it's a little silly.

Don't forget that if you shot one, It would probably explode.

Plus they're a Turian Client race, They don't do war, they just ask/pay the turians to do it for them

 FM Ninja 048 wrote:

 Aldarionn wrote:
The Volus are a joke. The way they act in game, their aesthetic, and their mannerisms all suggest a race of people who avoid physical confrontation at all costs, and prefer to act through agents. They have a relatively strong navy which is not surprising, but I could never see one as an N7 Operative. Personally I think they added them just to appease the people who were calling out for a Biotic God character, and I think it's a little silly.

Don't forget that if you shot one, It would probably explode.

Plus they're a Turian Client race, They don't do war, they just ask/pay the turians to do it for them

Exactly. The only more absurd addition to MP would be a Hannar.

Aye, I raised an eyebrow when I saw they added Volus, my first thought was, ah so added the mastermind class from CoH then, as I was expecting at least two bodyguards.

But.. nope.

You've Jinxed it now

I'm betting Hanar infiltrator if they do bring them in though.

I think Elcor Could be cool though, give them an Inbuilt primary similar to a grenade launcher or a Typhoon/GPR/Revenant and inbuilt secondary systems similar to the N7 soilder's Missile launcher

Hanar soldier surely?

Focussing on pistols and smgs.

Hanar Commando = Blasto.

In regards to what you guys are saying about the Volus, sure that's all true but this is a war of galactic genocide. Everyone needs to fight, there's no bystanders.


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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Hanar Commando = Blasto.

Yes! You've guys have pegged the next DLC: Hanar with rocket packs to the rescue!

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
In regards to what you guys are saying about the Volus, sure that's all true but this is a war of galactic genocide. Everyone needs to fight, there's no bystanders.

Close, Everybody need to Contribute to the war effort not fight, if everybody was fighting then who would be building the Crucible, or making ammo, or houses for refugees, or shipping guns, or looking after the wounded

 FM Ninja 048 wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
In regards to what you guys are saying about the Volus, sure that's all true but this is a war of galactic genocide. Everyone needs to fight, there's no bystanders.

Close, Everybody need to Contribute to the war effort not fight, if everybody was fighting then who would be building the Crucible, or making ammo, or houses for refugees, or shipping guns, or looking after the wounded

There comes a time when those people must fight on the frontlines too. I don't think it's that implausible 1% of Volus may choose the path of soldier when they see the state their protectors, the Turians, are in. Palaven is lliterally burning and I believe Irune is under attack too.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
In regards to what you guys are saying about the Volus, sure that's all true but this is a war of galactic genocide. Everyone needs to fight, there's no bystanders.

There is however people fighting in the ways that work best for them.

The Volus have no ground troops. They have no ground forces, period.
They have the Bombing Fleet, which supports Turian ground forces.

I see the bombing fleet, which is only recently introduced, as a way militarizing the seemingly incapable Volus. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're the new Krogan. I wouldn't doubt the total number of Volus with combat experience is in the double digits.

Which is why they're actually the 'ultra rare' class.

It just so happens that, from the looks of it, people are spending silly money in order to get them.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I see the bombing fleet, which is only recently introduced, as a way militarizing the seemingly incapable Volus. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're the new Krogan. I wouldn't doubt the total number of Volus with combat experience is in the double digits.

The point is that a race of physically pitiful creatures should in no way be attempting to fight on the front lines against an opponent that will exploit every weakness they have. If they wore giant mechanical suits capable of improving their strength and letting them fight properly (Like Tau Battlesuits from 40k) then I could see them being added, but on their own they are physically no match for any of the four enemies you face in MP. They are supporting the war effort with their fleet and that is plenty enough support. Trying to send in front line troops only endangers everyone else fighting on the front lines, support role or otherwise. BioWare can try to justify it however they want, but the lore up to and including ME3 has had the Volus in non-combat roles because of the reasons listed above.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I see the bombing fleet, which is only recently introduced, as a way militarizing the seemingly incapable Volus. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're the new Krogan. I wouldn't doubt the total number of Volus with combat experience is in the double digits.

The "Volus Bombing Fleet" is nothing new.

It's existed since Mass Effect 1.

So no matter how it's spun, the Volus were a completely inappropriate choice for Retaliation.

Plus they're Ultra Rare and ruining my freaking Typhoon chances.