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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 17:12:29
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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EnTyme wrote:Definitely looking at getting this once Chaos teams are released (the D'halas Goatboys). On the topic of "impossible BB stories", based on my luck in BB2, I can safely say that a 3+ to pick up the ball with a re-roll is pretty much a guaranteed failure for me.
That is a top tier Blood Bowl version of an NFL team name. Bravo.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 17:38:26
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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EnTyme wrote: On the topic of "impossible BB stories", based on my luck in BB2, I can safely say that a 3+ to pick up the ball with a re-roll is pretty much a guaranteed failure for me.
This is my life.....all the time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 17:55:01
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Baxx wrote:
agility teams does that how exactly? If you try staying in front of the cage, you're the one losing players as the cage moves forward.
Try playing Wood Elf while putting the hurt to a Dwarf team caging and stalling. It does not work.
It does work,
Its possible to stall a cage while playing elves, if you do it right you can limit the attacker to one attack per turn, the blitz, and the attacker can only move one square per turn too if you do it right.
Its very unlikely that you will lose a player every turn to one blitz per turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 18:20:32
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I hear you say it, but won't believe it until I see it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 18:29:54
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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It's definitely a "bad option, but the only one you've got" kind of situation. Basically the dwarf player will push forward that one square a turn, hitting your players once or so a turn and then one turn 8 breaking through the last few squares to try to run the ball in.
What actually ends up happening is you dodge away, roll a 1, team reroll (no dodge skill against dwarf tacklers) and roll another 1. Then the dwarf player gets a turn with multiple hits on squishy elves and things go really wrong.
You have a one in 36 chance of getting the double ones, higher if you run out of team rerolls. How many dodges will you make during the drive as the dwarves push forward? Enough that you will likely see a 1 followed by a 1 more than you'd like.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 18:52:29
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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frozenwastes wrote:It's definitely a "bad option, but the only one you've got" kind of situation. Basically the dwarf player will push forward that one square a turn, hitting your players once or so a turn and then one turn 8 breaking through the last few squares to try to run the ball in.
What actually ends up happening is you dodge away, roll a 1, team reroll (no dodge skill against dwarf tacklers) and roll another 1. Then the dwarf player gets a turn with multiple hits on squishy elves and things go really wrong.
You have a one in 36 chance of getting the double ones, higher if you run out of team rerolls. How many dodges will you make during the drive as the dwarves push forward? Enough that you will likely see a 1 followed by a 1 more than you'd like.
Indeed, the double one dodge roll is pretty much the only way to "defeat" a skilled Elf coach. It's a bit infuriating.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 00:27:12
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Fixture of Dakka
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MangoMadness wrote: Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
I preferred the old acetate and card to the ones I saw yesterday. Bit too busy and not as functional. But that's current GW design and nothing new.
Agreed, function over form is what I like in all games.
Really though do anyone use the throwing templates anymore? Most people use the throwing matrix table, alot easier and smaller to carry around.
I always use the template, because the matrix doesn't show you which squares off the direct line between the thrower and target are eligible for interceptions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 11:07:58
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah, feeder wrote: frozenwastes wrote:It's definitely a "bad option, but the only one you've got" kind of situation. Basically the dwarf player will push forward that one square a turn, hitting your players once or so a turn and then one turn 8 breaking through the last few squares to try to run the ball in.
What actually ends up happening is you dodge away, roll a 1, team reroll (no dodge skill against dwarf tacklers) and roll another 1. Then the dwarf player gets a turn with multiple hits on squishy elves and things go really wrong.
You have a one in 36 chance of getting the double ones, higher if you run out of team rerolls. How many dodges will you make during the drive as the dwarves push forward? Enough that you will likely see a 1 followed by a 1 more than you'd like.
Indeed, the double one dodge roll is pretty much the only way to "defeat" a skilled Elf coach. It's a bit infuriating.
I think you're better off bringing in assists to get as many 2 dice blocks as you can and blocking the dwarf line back and don't follow up to anything?
Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 11:16:13
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Norn Queen
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Are there any more rumours in here? Seems to have devolved into a psuedo tactics thread?
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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 12:01:02
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Ratius wrote:Are there any more rumours in here? Seems to have devolved into a psuedo tactics thread? 
That's generally how rumour threads are. :(
Still, I'm super pumped for Blood Bowl as I missed out on it last time around.
I had to preorder the Skavenblight Scramblers dice of eBay, as they sold out on GW's UK site straight away. I figured the dice were a necessity for playing the Skaven team - why so short in stock?
As for rumours and news, doubt we will get anything until FW are ready to show us the other teams from the Season 1 expansion book - January perhaps? [pure conjecture]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 12:16:14
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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I kinda want to buy it, but... I'm still hesistant. Not sure if I am going to like it a lot. I do love the ork team though.
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Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 13:41:17
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Mister Feral wrote:I had to preorder the Skavenblight Scramblers dice of eBay, as they sold out on GW's UK site straight away. I figured the dice were a necessity for playing the Skaven team - why so short in stock?
While I'll not defend GW's seeming inability to get a good guess at required stock, there isn't actually a need to have these dice to play as Skaven - the ones in the core set will do just fine.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 13:46:13
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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Dysartes wrote: Mister Feral wrote:I had to preorder the Skavenblight Scramblers dice of eBay, as they sold out on GW's UK site straight away. I figured the dice were a necessity for playing the Skaven team - why so short in stock? While I'll not defend GW's seeming inability to get a good guess at required stock, there isn't actually a need to have these dice to play as Skaven - the ones in the core set will do just fine. We're gamers. Cool looking, thematically appropriate dice aren't a accessory, they're a must have! They should have expected something of a 1:1 basis of Skaven team sets to dice sets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 13:59:15
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Wouldn't feel right playing a Skaven team with Human or Orc themed dice...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 14:02:45
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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GW seem to always under estimate the amount of dice they need. The recent Genestealer Cult ones were selling up to five times their retail price on the likes of eBay. That is not scalpers setting unreasonable prices but legitimate bidders willing to pay waaaaay over the odds. So GW are just throwing money down the drain by not producing enough of the dice sets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 14:51:15
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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My FLGS is holding a raffle for the one set of Skaven dice they were able to order.
Almost seems like GW purposely didn't make enough dice, like the way Nintendo used to artificially create demand with new console launches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 14:57:54
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Bounding Assault Marine
running amok, against the reality of defeat
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 15:39:21
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I'd look at the dice in my hand and see they aren't the Skaven ones?
I'm really not sure why'd ask that, seems obvious to me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 16:05:20
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The only problem I have with custom team/faction/army accessories is the color, often I go with a different color scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 16:15:33
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I tend to theme my dice to the army in 40k. For blood bowl, I actually go the other way (Block Dice from the NAF or Impact Miniatures... and then decide what team I'll paint to match). But then again, the D6's that I get to match the Block Dice don't have faction symbols on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 16:24:52
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Bounding Assault Marine
running amok, against the reality of defeat
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Mister Feral wrote:
I'd look at the dice in my hand and see they aren't the Skaven ones?
I'm really not sure why'd ask that, seems obvious to me!
Just seemed strange to me.
I have about 30 sets of block dice, and I really don't care which set I grab. As long as they are a set...whould'nt use say, a blue die with a yellow.
Each their own, I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 17:08:02
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I actually grabbed the dice because the color-scheme is so close to my Nurgle-team that I figured it might be as close to a matching set as i'll ever have.
That said, like everyone else... the Skaven dice were sold out sooo quickly, and even local FLGS friends say they couldn't even stock enough for the requests they'd had from customers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 17:11:21
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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I definitely theme the dice to my team. My Orcs have green dice, my Canucks-based Human team has blue dice, My Vampires have red, etc.
My local GW set up their floor model BB box yesterday. I got to handle all the stuff, very pretty. The pitch and dugouts are double sided with Orc and Human themes on each. The passing template seems clunky. The turn and score markers are nice plastic totems, rather than cardboard counters.
The real difference I noticed is the Human team is quite a bit bigger now. Not a big deal, I guess, but they do look "wrong", as I'm used to 28mm humans being a bit smaller.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 17:33:05
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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bound for glory wrote: Just seemed strange to me. I have about 30 sets of block dice, and I really don't care which set I grab. As long as they are a set...whould'nt use say, a blue die with a yellow. Each their own, I guess.
But how many team dice you got? This is not only about color, it's about symbols. You're comparing apples and oranges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 17:50:06
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Bounding Assault Marine
running amok, against the reality of defeat
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As block dice are, well, block dice(same fuuction, same-ish symbols) I would say I am comparing apples with apples.
Those apples may be macintosh and granny reds, but they are still both apples.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 21:53:36
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Baxx wrote:The only problem I have with custom team/faction/army accessories is the color, often I go with a different color scheme.
Buy dice from Chessex then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 22:29:00
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Down Under
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bound for glory wrote:As block dice are, well, block dice(same fuuction, same-ish symbols) I would say I am comparing apples with apples.
Those apples may be macintosh and granny reds, but they are still both apples.
That has to be the most obtuse response to the "apples to oranges" adage I have ever seen. I'll keep that in mind the next time I am making an apple pie.
Coming from a guy with over 20 sets of block dice I can see where they are coming from.
I have no problem using my blue NAF block dice with my Orcs, or with my Necromantic team, but if the block dice are racially themed like they are now it would be nice to use them with the themed team and would feel strange to be using Nurgle themed dice with an Elf team etc.
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Glory is fleeting. Obscurity is forever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 22:42:44
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Vain wrote:I have no problem using my blue NAF block dice with my Orcs, or with my Necromantic team, but if the block dice are racially themed like they are now it would be nice to use them with the themed team and would feel strange to be using Nurgle themed dice with an Elf team etc.
You'd be showing solidarity with the Elf goddess who is stuck in Nurgle's garden...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 07:47:42
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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bound for glory wrote:As block dice are, well, block dice(same fuuction, same-ish symbols) I would say I am comparing apples with apples.
Those apples may be macintosh and granny reds, but they are still both apples.
That's like saying blue dice is same-ish color as red dice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 08:42:38
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Im my experience, if I go out of the way to get thematic dice, chances are they are going to be rolling ones a hell of a lot more !!
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