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Especially after you have seen the pub close up.

A lot of what JohnHwangDD is saying makes sense.

It would easier and quicker if cover was done in simple blocks. There's nothing tactically skilfull about moving a model an inch left to get or avoid an LoS through a window.

I also like the 3+/5+ cover option.

BTW one nice thing for Tau is that Smart Missiles ignore LoS so they will ignore all cover if it is done on pure, natural whole grain LoS.

I have to agree with what Polonius has said, I think it depends on the background that various posters come from. I am not a huge fan of the new 5th edition rules mainly from the point Polonius made about have a finely crafted army based around a certain number of points.

I am married, I have a kid and I make enough for the three of us to get buy but not much more than that. I don't have a whole lot of time for myself, and I am into more than just tabletop gaming. I have various video games, my computer, TV, Movies and stuff like that which all vies for my time.

It took me a year to compile, assemble, convert and paint a Godzilla Tyranid list. I remember when the codex first came out, many Dakka-ites thought it was a dumb idea to have that many MC's, but suddenly it became a huge hardcore army. The places where I have played have been in a hardcore crowd, so I played with the big dogs.

Is the army fluffy, no not really, but I liked it. I like big bugs! I had won the majority of my games, but I didn't have much left and my opponents had fun. I remember asking the guys I gamed with if they minded the army and they didn't.

Now I am faced with the fact that fifth edition has made my army less viable for lack of better words. It stinks when I have some really cool converted models which now suck basically. I know it might sound like i am whining, but I am not, I guess it's more about frustration.

I agree with HBMC, I wish that GW would write a solid rule set and try to balance the game out in such a way that there wouldn't be uber list, or to take the mind set of PP and have their version of page 5 and play like you have a pair.

I have been playing 40k since the beginning, and with apocalypse I felt that "joy" again of when I first started the game. I like the fact that you can have wacky armies and be more fluff driven or let your imagination run wild. I even thought about doing a multiple Abaddon army for Apocalypse. Imagine 9 or 10 abaddon's running around, I'd probably lose, but hey it could have looked cool.

Again I now see myself maybe holding on to a few of my armies, mainly my Dark Angels and my Ultramarines which will need some tweaking, but my Nid's are going to go bye-bye (if you are interested PM me) but I like some others, am heading towards AT 43 and Warmachine Hordes. I know that eventually PP will run out of steam (pun not intended) but till then I'll enjoy the ride.

Thanks,
Chappy P!

(hopefully I didn't come across all emo like I was accused of in another thread, I am too old to be emo =) !)

What the Chaplain writes has merit.

Is it impossible to make rules that allow for fluff-driven wackiness and balance?

All ice-creams shouldn't be vanilla flavour.

Yes, but only if you're rather slowed when it comes to miniature games...