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about lasguns being more powerful in the fluff i think its true
because of the way a lasgun works when it goes into a body it makes a cut all the way through in the axact diameter to the round
so it is very powerful it just doesnt cause the massive collateral damage that a boltgun does so the person being shot will have a hole through them but will still be able to operate at least until the end of the game
if im being stupid sorry

well, nice way of putting us all in our places! Congratualation! It more we were just complaining about fluff not coming through to the game or vice versa as per the norm with gamesworkshop. But thanks for the Tech insight, it's something I can never find but usefull when someone mentions it

Actually if you fire a bolt gun at point blank range it will go staight though them, as it explodes 0.001 seconds after impact and at point blank range it travels fast enough to go through a person and explode 2.5 feet behind them, maybe in another person.

Space_hoppo wrote:Actually if you fire a bolt gun at point blank range it will go staight though them, as it explodes 0.001 seconds after impact and at point blank range it travels fast enough to go through a person and explode 2.5 feet behind them, maybe in another person.

just add "unarmoured" to.
If hit armor,the shots are delayed long enough to explode inside.

If an Imperial Monkey fired it wouldn't it dislocate/break his arm, seeing as a lot of force is behind it? If so, I think the bolter shell going throught the enemy is the least of their worries at that time

Storm Lord wrote:If an Imperial Monkey fired it wouldn't it dislocate/break his arm, seeing as a lot of force is behind it? If so, I think the bolter shell going throught the enemy is the least of their worries at that time

No,boltpistols and bolters are only available to humans because their arm did not break from firing.

The possibility to dislocate or break limbs is neglible compared to missing.
Main users are Marines and they shouldnt lack the strength.

Laser energy dissipates when hitting and therefore its no shoot " 3 in a row" .
Massive shells do already penetrate multiple targets if their kinetic force is high enough.

And as lasers weigh nothing they have a low kinetic energy, but a las cannon could if you aimed at said enemies head...

Space_hoppo wrote:And as lasers weigh nothing they have a low kinetic energy, but a las cannon could if you aimed at said enemies head...

If you try a lascannon there is no more "head"

only imperial guns kick you (if not holding em right)....

Yes there will be a head sized hole in the person's brain, at least it wouldn't gush blood.

Space_hoppo wrote:Yes there will be a head sized hole in the person's brain, at least it wouldn't gush blood.

You need a person with really Big head and a brain bigger than the head to achieve this result .

Aye, but there are such big headed people in the galaxy...

Always handy,this lascannon.

Yeah, the foolish Guardsmen don't protect them well enough with their flashlights so the CSM can nab them.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, the foolish Guardsmen don't protect them well enough with their flashlights so the CSM can nab them.

Its the fault of the munitorum.
They should equip a squad with 1 flashlight per lascannon but issued 10 flashlight and 1 lascannon.
Guard just misunderstood the targeter(flashlight)for a lascannon as a infantry-weapon.

I have a feeling the Guard would be much stronger if their lasguns had laser pointers, then they all have twin-linked lasguns, so they get twice as many shots and that terror weapon bonus would be doubled to...-200 Ld!

It would stop all enemy in there tracks
Ah they have seen us! Run before something like a shell bombs us!

Space_hoppo wrote:It would stop all enemy in there tracks
Ah they have seen us! Run before something like a shell bombs us!

Run in fear of the mighty imperial Lasgun!

All hail the laser-pointer.

None shall stand against the Guard

Thats why they are used as a meat shield in front of armies, using guard means a 5 times less likely chance of dying.

Space_hoppo wrote:Thats why they are used as a meat shield in front of armies, using guard means a 5 times less likely chance of dying.

A chance of dying? Its a honor and a duty to die for the emperor!

A chance of not dying ? To "survive" as undead ?

So ... its the fearless Officer,leading by example, (and got shot for it), that receives this chance;
...or the grumpy Commissar,always to "back up" his men, (lurkin behind you), that benefits from this;
... or its the weird psyker, the fanatic preacher, the supply-truck-driver ....or else ?

OK grotz and some nids are meatshields, the imperial guardsmen is not!

Tactica Imperialis FTW

But every army needs a meat shield. Except Necrons as they have no meat. Maybe Flayed ones count though. Eldar have guardians, maybe conscripts would work as meat shields.

Space_hoppo wrote:But every army needs a meat shield. Except Necrons as they have no meat. Maybe Flayed ones count though. Eldar have guardians, maybe conscripts would work as meat shields.

The marines meatshields are (loyal or traitor) =
The demons meatshields are =

Not enough meatshields i'll found there :S

Marines are too poor to afford IG meatshields, so they use scouts like my friend. He has four scout squads who are meatshields for his Termies. Wearing a bible/holy book of the emperor would work, but since daemons are chaos, I suppose they wear the Necronomicon over their hearts.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Marines are too poor to afford IG meatshields, so they use scouts like my friend. He has four scout squads who are meatshields for his Termies. Wearing a bible/holy book of the emperor would work, but since daemons are chaos, I suppose they wear the Necronomicon over their hearts.

4 scout squadz are min 360 pts to "meat"shield termies!
He must have 1 termie per wscout to do so

Back to the main topic:

Attaching hotshot powerpacks and making them bolter equivalents.

Mekboy wrote:Back to the main topic:

Attaching hotshot powerpacks and making them bolter equivalents.

And use the gets hot rule when shooting? Rapid fire or 1 shot ?

What happens if they're a gunline? The whole army would catch fire!

If they catch fire just charge at the enemy after emptying the Tanks fuel all over them... and watch future opponents faces when the guard produce a lighter

Cheese Elemental wrote:
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11. Opening Coke cans.
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I hope you don't try the laser beam to open your coke can ... is there a can opener somewhere else on the rifle? just wondering.

It's called the bayonet, if it's sharpened enough that is...

The IG lasgun bayonet is also amaxing for cutting cheese.