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quietus86 wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I was surprised to see that the new Sternguard get ALL the ammo types, and don't have to choose before the game.

They out DW the DW!

but non of the close combat weapons that makes em les effectif overal.

That and a lack of captain in the squad are the crux of the matter. Personally I always thought that their should have been a limit on the big close combat weapons but that they needed to be in their none the less. The captain is a big part of their advantage and helps to emphasize their independent effectiveness as a squad; the captain also helps put them closer to the same league as GK.

It does give us an idea of the direction DW will go, with fixed ammo assets that can be switched each turn with trade offs to each and cheaper than current DW for marginal downgrades; beyond that the DW will probably get more when they get revisited (sternguard plus some options).

I haven't played any 5th edition games yet, but, with the push AWAY from close combat and the loss in effectiveness there, wouldn't a more powerful shooty unit be the way to go now?

Yes, but some sort of counter assault capabilities is also good.

Sure, but would that be 'balanced' too?

Maybe at the appropriate points cost, but, they're already pretty pricey.

Maybe an attached IC?

I mean I think with a sm captain attached and with an close combat weapon equipped sgt, you're half way their. I don't think the squad should necessarily have the same unfettered everyone has access to close combat options if upgraded; it'd probably be 0-3 models can take power fist/weapon, lightning claws, etc.

I ast at the gw shop deathwatch is still 100% leageal hq
and yes still a hq.
and I have lookt its 100% sure day replaste the tyranit hunter from ultra marien now any vanilla can use dam.
en te sargent can still take al the gak ge code .

quietus86 wrote:I ast at the gw shop deathwatch is still 100% leageal hq
and yes still a hq.
and I have lookt its 100% sure day replaste the tyranit hunter from ultra marien now any vanilla can use dam.
en te sargent can still take al the gak ge code .

Wow...

I...disagree!

Give him a break guys. We were all young once.

BYE

quietus86 wrote:I ast at the gw shop deathwatch is still 100% leageal hq
and yes still a hq.
and I have lookt its 100% sure day replaste the tyranit hunter from ultra marien now any vanilla can use dam.
en te sargent can still take al the gak ge code .

I asked at the GW shop, Deathwatch is still 100% Legal HQ
and yes, it's still a HQ.
I have looked and it's 100% sure they replace the Tyranid Hunter from Ultra Marines, now any vanilla chapter can use them, and the Sargent can still take all the gear he could.

My best guess!

jip thats it our gw shop army still has deathwatch in dear army as hq

Quietus, after talking with you in PM, I have found you to be a great guy. Really a great guy, so please don't take this as me trying to be an ass to you. Please take it as constructive criticism.

Your English spelling is horrendous as is your syntax (or sentence structure if you prefer).

For someone who lives in England, I am sure you can appreciate when I say that your internet communication has all of the charm of a chav from Brighton knifing me in the back.

Ghent is in Belgium, speaking foreign langauge + Dyslexia is a bad combo.

Opps! My bad!

if you se me in real live.
than my enlgish is beter than my mouther tong.
problem is that I try to use words that I can spell and are reedebal with makes my syntax some what weard.
I speak an read english dutch and french.
siters lives in canade and have english and american friends in real live.
but I get uset to peaple saing my english sucks ( do I use a spelling corector but it cant regognise al my words if you can't read it read it out loud and it wil make more sens )

No problem, as your location and your sig really do explain it all!

quietus86 wrote:if you se me in real live.
than my enlgish is beter than my mouther tong.
problem is that I try to use words that I can spell and are reedebal with makes my syntax some what weard.
I speak an read english dutch and french.
siters lives in canade and have english and american friends in real live.
but I get uset to peaple saing my english sucks ( do I use a spelling corector but it cant regognise al my words if you can't read it read it out loud and it wil make more sens )

Ye man, No worries. One of my best friends is Dyslexic, though he has Audio Dyslexia, rather than visual. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but often times it's hard to distinguish between those being lazy and those with a genuine learning disability (Though I'd rather say you haven't let that learning disability slow you down in the least, being able to read and speak 3 different languages is quite impressive! Kudos!)

Take it easy,

-Red__Thirst-

I've heard the term audio dyslexia before but the symptoms make it seem more like a form of aphasia than dyslexia.

3 different languages is omost standart for whear I em from evry one atliest now's 2 most new franch and dutch or dutch and english.
my girlfriend now's dutch english en german.
I rite completly fonetic so reading it out loud will help