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Prove otherwise. Do so within 5th ed rules.

i would say you and me are right sourclams you can have 2 power fists. i keep seeing people say you cant because you cant have 2 of the same weapon but they never tell us where it says this in the BGB.

sourclams wrote:Prove otherwise. Do so within 5th ed rules.

You want me to prove what we've both been saying using the 5th Edition rules?

OK...

You may exchange X and/or Y for Z1, Z2, or Z3.

Up to four marines may exchange A for B, C or D.

If And/or means X and Y, or X, or Y for Z1, etc- well that would be stupid, as noone in their right mind would trade two of something good, when they only have to trade 1 of something good. Beyond that, Or wouldn't be necessary, they could have said Trade X, Y, or X and Y. So conventional use of And/Or says one or both, each for Choice 1, 2, or 3. Likewise, that would end up with four devastators putting their right hand in, and shooting the lascannon all about, then putting their right hand out to do the hokey pokey- if for no other reason than to avoid collecting dust on the LOL shelf.

If you're limited to one choice per option as other folks have mentioned, there can never be four heavy weapons in a devastator squad, so up to four trading their boltguns would still make no sense.

Thus comparing the entry for a sergeant to the entry for the devastator squad, we can see that He can make two swaps, and can take the same resultant option each time he makes a swap.

i see what your saying breton but it really doesnt apply to the 2 power fist thing but owell its time to end this post for good i think.

Err, sorry, I was more referring to Deathmachine's "Riiiiiight" post, which I took to be sarcasm. I don't really agree or disagree with your logic regarding Devastators. I'm just looking at how an Assault sergeant can exchange only his chainsword, and get two lightning claws in return as the profile lists dual LCs as one option for selection.

Right, then change your bolt pistol for a Plasma Pistol.

In the end it'd make for one expensive-ass sergeant with interesting modeling options.

Knark

I'd convert a plasma pistol to fit onto one of the LC gloves ala Kantor/Vulkan/Marneus.

even if it were questionable, if it was wysiwyg I'd let my opponent do it. I mean they're then paying as much as a cheap character for a guy that still only gets to swing 3 times in close combat

NaZ

Four, he's got a jump pack, he's probably getting the charge, but yeah :p

ah yes.. forgot that sargents get 2 base.

even still.. thats almost as many points as a chaplain, or other goodness.

if my opponent really feels like wasting that many points, I'd have no problems letting them field it.

NaZ

Its got upside too, he can't be picked out in hand to hand like a chaplain. Still, you're right, its not a sgt I would field... if I'm spending that many points I'd be looking at TH/SS

have any of you guys played against a 10 man assualt squad with 2 flamers and 2 power fists it packs alot of kick. weather it cost alot or not that really doesnt matter ive used this squad since 3rd ED and it has not let me down.

Really? I was under the impression assault squads were capped at 1PF per squad since the end of 2nd.

ive been using 2 PF at gw and at flgs since 3rd

To be honest, as long as you agree with your opponent before you start a game, it shouldn't be a problem.