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12" jump pack move + 6" charge = 18" charge
12" transport move + 2" disembark + 6" charge = 20" charge

Yeah but you've got to get there first. A transport makes that easier, especially an 'Assault' transport.

Fetterkey wrote:12" jump pack move + 6" charge = 18" charge
12" transport move + 2" disembark + 6" charge = 20" charge

Wasn't there also a rumor about a special character giving Jump Pack'ers the Fleet USR?

Vale,

JohnS

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The deal with the transports and assault troops is that those transports can also deep strike. It is rumored to hold 8 assault marines.

So you pay the extra cost for the transport to be able to surgically insert your assault marines so they can charge the first turn they are available.

In theory - of course we don't know how these will work yet. If they tantalus is a giant fig that will be nigh impossible to deep strike without mishap then it will stay on the shelf. If it can be brought down via the use of teleport homers or locator beacons it will be sold in droves.

If it's around 100 points or even 150 points with the assault cannons and twin plasma/meltas then it's going to be worth every point IF it can be brought down safely.

Fetterkey wrote:12" jump pack move + 6" charge = 18" charge
12" transport move + 2" disembark + 6" charge = 20" charge

Of course this assumes no special rules, but whats not to say GW is thinking "but err its marines, marines are like superhuman, and can jump from a moving aircraft and its like cool... so marines should allow their vehicle to move full out speed and then deploy"... but they'll probably make them scatter.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah but you've got to get there first. A transport makes that easier, especially an 'Assault' transport.

I think you almost have a higher chance of getting there if you hide your guys behind vehicles and stuff than if you have them in a transport many inches above the table. I know the poor guys tasked with Valkyrie/Vendetta duty almost always bite it faster than they would on foot or behind a Chimera. It's possible that the jump packs may alleviate this, but I'm fairly skeptical, at least until we have more information.

Breotan wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:I don't care if its been AVAILABLE for a century, use the god damn spoiler function

What the hell are you doing in a thread like this NOT expecting spoilers? Spoilers are what threads like these are all about. You want to avoid spoilers, stick to the specialist games forums.

Because the thread is about spoilers regarding the Blood Angels,
Not the as yet unreleased Horus Heresy Novels, and I can understand that someone would not want, in the middle of a discussion about character dreadnoughts,
to be told a major plot feature of an unreleased book.

He SHOULD have used the spoiler function.

I too foresee the probably 'best' option will be to run your jump packs behind cheap rhinos. I hope this is not the case though because I'd love to be able to competitively field all these supposed sweet new figures.

blood angel wrote:

Spoiler:

get over it

I too foresee the probably 'best' option will be to run your jump packs behind cheap rhinos. I hope this is not the case though because I'd love to be able to competitively field all these supposed sweet new figures.

Stop flamebaiting troll

Just becuase you can't read, or appreciate reading doesn't make it less important for those who has a passion for it. If you did, you wouldn't be responding is such a ignorant fashion.

Bla_Ze wrote:

Stop flamebaiting troll

Just becuase you can't read, or appreciate reading doesn't make it less important for those who has a passion for it. If you did, you wouldn't be responding is such a ignorant fashion.

I found Alpharius's last post informative and helpful. I would give it another look if I were you, Bla_Ze.

I wonder if the assault marines will have an option of buying a transport, or if you'll need some troops without jump packs to crew the raider shields. If a jump squad can buy a Tantalus, it might have quite a bit of utility beyond the transport options. I'd almost view it as a separate heavy weapons platform that allows the BA to be less reliant on slow heavy support.

Bla_Ze wrote:

blood angel wrote:

Spoiler:

get over it

I too foresee the probably 'best' option will be to run your jump packs behind cheap rhinos. I hope this is not the case though because I'd love to be able to competitively field all these supposed sweet new figures.

Stop flamebaiting troll

Just becuase you can't read, or appreciate reading doesn't make it less important for those who has a passion for it. If you did, you wouldn't be responding is such a ignorant fashion.

I find it funny that you just proved the spoiler system doesn't work. You, a person demanding spoiler tags are used, read it anyway. Not trying to flame here, just found that amusing.

@Ultra you're meant to say remotely what the spoiler is about as a preface not just post one. It was pretty obvious yours was about nothing.

I am vexed reading this awesome rumors for blood angels, but then I remember every rumor discussion is the sky is failing and surely my karma goes up by sticking with the chaos codex. At least I dont play thousand sons and realise that my warriors who worship the god of magic cant even compete with superstitious backward fools (space wolves) or emo vamps.. hahaha.

Bla_Ze wrote:

blood angel wrote:

Spoiler:

get over it

I too foresee the probably 'best' option will be to run your jump packs behind cheap rhinos. I hope this is not the case though because I'd love to be able to competitively field all these supposed sweet new figures.

Stop flamebaiting troll

Just becuase you can't read, or appreciate reading doesn't make it less important for those who has a passion for it. If you did, you wouldn't be responding is such a ignorant fashion.

How can you post a response like this? Honestly, you accuse somebody of illiteracy, but apparently didn't bother to read your own post.

And despite the way it's been incorrectly used in recent years, "troll" doesn't mean "person who's disagreeing with me."

I thought blood angel's use of a spoiler tag was both a creative and funny way of telling you and your petulant request to sod off.

Anyway, I'm really wondering about this whole transport vehicle thing. It would seem that a largely jump-infantry assault-based force wouldn't benefit much from supercharged Rhinos and whatever the hell the Tantalus is, aside from the additional protection. And even then, the process of disembarking would slow them down as they cluster about the vehicle, waiting for ordnance fire to take them out. Is this, perhaps, to be an intended weakness? It seems to me that I would rather take my chances with jump troops, because if they're going to be vulnerable for a turn anyway I'd rather be able to spread them out to minimize losses.

And so another BA rumor thread comes to a crashing halt.

For those of you who ignored warnings to stay on topic and avoid personal attacks, expect warnings soon.