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Frazzled wrote:
77% is a BS figure, at least south of the Grapevine.


There is a significant degree of cross-over between the category 'Hispanic' and the category 'White' accounted for by the category 'Non-Hispanic White' in many surveys. I believe that you're only thinking of the last one when you're considering the category 'white'.

If we look at the number of Non-Hispanic Whites in San Diego County, the percentage falls to 50.9%. Across all of California that number is 42.3%.

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dogma wrote:There is a significant degree of cross-over between the category 'Hispanic' and the category 'White' accounted for by the category 'Non-Hispanic White' in many surveys. I believe that you're only thinking of the last one when you're considering the category 'white'.


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Nurgleboy77 wrote:What a bunch of Racists, insisting that their race be singled out with their own exclusive student union and special study programs. The most racist things I see in the article.

"How am I supposed to walk into that building? How am I ever going to be safe there?" said ethnic studies major Cheyenne Stevens, who is black.


Really......really?! So people are just getting lynched right and left now, huh? How stupid.

Last fall I saw several houses with hollowed out gourds with leering faces on them, Oh how can I feel safe in my neighborhood when evil spirits are depicted on peoples front porches every year! Oh the HORROR!


Please don't troll.

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I think this is terribly relevant to the discussion at hand...

LA Times wrote:Student apologizes for noose in UC San Diego library
The campus paper publishes an anonymous letter by a minority student who calls the incident 'a mindless act and stupid mistake.'

The UC San Diego student reportedly responsible for hanging a noose last week in a campus library issued a public, but anonymous, apology Monday and said she had no racist motivation.

The noose's discovery set off protests at a school that is already tense from recent racially charged episodes and triggered condemnations from UC leaders and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

In a letter published Monday on the front page of the UC San Diego student newspaper, the Guardian, the student wrote that the incident was "a mindless act and stupid mistake" and was not meant to recall the lynching of blacks.

"As a minority student who sympathizes with the students that have been affected by the recent issues on campus, I am distraught to know that I have unintentionally added to their pain," the student wrote. She was suspended Friday and remains under investigation for a possible hate crime.

The letter is signed "Anonymous UCSD Student" and offers no clues about her identity or ethnicity.

Sari Thayer, the Guardian's Web editor, said in an interview that the woman had asked the paper to publish the letter and that "a reliable source" confirmed its authenticity.

The woman wrote that she and friends had been playing with the rope early last week, making a lasso and then a noose.

She said that she took it to the library Tuesday, strung it above a desk and forgot about it. Its discovery Thursday night caused a firestorm on campus, where tensions were high after a Feb. 15 off-campus party that mocked Black History Month.

A campus official declined to comment on the letter and said that university police continue to investigate the incident.



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SO it wasn't racist at all. so the school should just ignore the students demand then.

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So let me get this right... its a minority picking on a minority and the White man has to shell out and make it right?

Figures.
   
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Frazzled wrote:Thats not the same. One is a number one is a relationship. Don't confuse numbers vs. power relationships.


What? Dude, I wasn't getting confused, I was pointing out that you'd assumed majority referred simply to numbers when it frequently doesn't, and didn't in this thread.


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youbedead wrote:SO it wasn't racist at all. so the school should just ignore the students demand then.


The demands for more diverse teaching and the like should stand on its own merits, or fail on those grounds. Just as the students were wrong to attempt to drag those issues into the debate over the noose and personal security, the school would be wrong to reject the calls for more diverse teaching now that its been found the noose (probably) didn't represent danger to minority students.

They're different issues.

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Yea, its going to be tough to sell: "Yea I forgot that I left a noose I made in the library. Completely by accident and I'm not a racist!" One doesn't have to be white to be racist either.

Looks like these actions aren't stopping; hopefully it doesn't escalate into life threatening circumstances but my money's on its just asshat trolls looking for attention (and they're getting it via the cops, media and admins):


KKK-style pillowcase found at UCSD; noose case sent to city attorney

UCSD Statement

UC San Diego police are investigating the discovery about 11 p.m. Monday of what appeared to be a white pillowcase that had been crudely fashioned into a KKK-style hood with a hand-drawn symbol. It was placed on a statue outside the main campus library, and a rose was inserted into the statue’s fingers.

The items have been removed and the police are processing them for evidence, including fingerprint and DNA analysis. An aggressive police investigation is underway. We will pursue this with all of our authority and individuals who are responsible will be punished to the full extent of the Student Code of Conduct and all applicable laws.

“We will not allow this incident, or any incident, to deter the progress we are making to change and heal our university community,” said UC San Diego Chancellor Marye Anne Fox. “We will not tolerate these despicable actions. We stand in firm solidarity with our students and are fully committed to instituting their recommendations. We know these changes will make this university a better place and will help us improve our campus climate.”

If you have any information about this incident, please call the UC San Diego Police Department at (858) 534-4359 or email detective@ucsd.edu.

A crudely fashioned, KKK-style hood was found atop a Dr. Seuss statue at the University of California San Diego late Monday, the latest in a string of race-related incidents that have roiled the campus in recent days.

Campus police say the hood covered the head of a Theodor Seuss Geisel statue, near where the university had planned to celebrate the children’s author’s birthday yesterday and next to the towering library that carries his name. The event was called off in light of racial tensions on the La Jolla campus.

The Ku Klux Klan-style hood was the second potent symbol of racism to appear in the heart of campus within the past week.

On Thursday, a noose was found on the seventh floor of the Geisel Library. An unidentified female student admitted that she placed the noose, telling the campus newspaper The Guardian that it “was a mindless act and stupid mistake.” She has been suspended from school.

Campus police said Tuesday evening that they had filed the noose investigation as a possible hate crime with the San Diego city attorney. They also had consulted with the San Diego County District Attorney’s Office and the FBI on possible criminal charges.

Campus authorities say the hood — apparently made from a white pillowcase and bearing a hand-drawn symbol — was discovered on the Geisel statue about 11 p.m. Monday. A rose was placed between the statue’s fingers. A university spokesman would not provide additional information.

“The items have been removed and the police are processing them for evidence, including fingerprint and DNA analysis,” the statement read. “We will pursue this with all of our authority and individuals who are responsible will be punished to the full extent of the Student Code of Conduct and all applicable laws.”

Chancellor Marye Anne Fox is quoted in a statement as saying that “we will not allow this incident, or any incident, to deter the progress we are making to change and heal our university community.”

Audrey Geisel, widow of Theodor Geisel, said the chancellor and campus librarian called her to inform her of the incident.

If her husband, who died in 1991, were alive, he would find the incident bizarre, Geisel said.

“The vast, vast majority (of students) are just the greatest — they’re just splendid, fine, period,” she said. “A little faction always exists in all places and they get a little carried away, I think. ‘Now hear this — somebody’s paying attention,’ and they get kind of rambunctious.”

The campus has been hit by a series of race-related incidents in recent weeks that has spurred demonstrations and led to renewed calls for tolerance. Black students make up 2 percent of the UCSD undergraduate population.

UC Santa Cruz officials said Monday that they found an image of a noose on the inside of a restroom door with the words “San Diego” and “Lynch” on either side, according to published reports.

The current string of events started with a Feb. 15 “Compton Cook Out” party off campus that mocked Black History Month. A student-run TV show subsequently ridiculed blacks and called them ungrateful for their reaction to the party, and used a racial slur.

Many students, faculty and others have been deeply offended by the incidents, while others say too much is being made of the events. They say the name of the party was meant to be satiric and note that a black stand-up comic who goes by the name “Jiggaboo Jones” has claimed that he helped organize it.

Audrey Geisel, who donated an estimated $20 million to the campus’s central library, named after her late husband, also donated the statue of Dr. Seuss and the Cat in the Hat in 2004.


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Jiggaboo Jones? I remember him from the Internet!

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I saw an news vid today about how races based hate groups were up 55%, anti immagrant (legal and otherwise up 80%, and Miitant anti goverment up a whooping 244%. Though to be fair the first two number are overall for the last decade and the anti goverment numbers were slightly higher then clinton's era in the 90s.

And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.

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I found this on a WWII history site that visit on a regular basis, it could explain why this keeps raising it's head: http://www.infowars.com/the-nazis-murder-of-jews-communists-and-gypsies-in-gas-chambers-was-an-american-idea/

By this I do mean it's only around 80 years since this happened, which isn't that long ago when it comes to making a change to how people think.

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Mannahnin wrote:
Nurgleboy77 wrote:What a bunch of Racists, insisting that their race be singled out with their own exclusive student union and special study programs. The most racist things I see in the article.

"How am I supposed to walk into that building? How am I ever going to be safe there?" said ethnic studies major Cheyenne Stevens, who is black.


Really......really?! So people are just getting lynched right and left now, huh? How stupid.

Last fall I saw several houses with hollowed out gourds with leering faces on them, Oh how can I feel safe in my neighborhood when evil spirits are depicted on peoples front porches every year! Oh the HORROR!


Please don't troll.


I think its relevant actually.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Thank you, Frazz. I thought so too!

Especially since we have now learned who really did it and why.

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Did we I missed that-who did and why? I asked this because the concept is stupid unless its like a noose for a football rally or such. (you know, lynch the rams sort of thing),

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:Did we I missed that-who did and why? I asked this because the concept is stupid unless its like a noose for a football rally or such. (you know, lynch the rams sort of thing),


So now you're oppressing rams as well? Bloody fascist.

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Hey, oppressing Rams only makes good sense. Haven't you seen that gum commercial? I don't want those four legged bastards crushing my nuts just because I don't chuck my gum the instant it looses flavor.


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Yes Fraz,

As it turns out it was another MINORITY student and some friends who "accidently" left the hangmans hitch hanging in the school.

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If the completely unsupported confession is to be believed.

I would rather wait for the police investigation, which will depend on hard evidence.

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Er... do police still investigate after a full confession is given?

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GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.


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No, not really.

Its more like going through the motions after that point.
   
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Tyyr wrote:Hey, oppressing Rams only makes good sense. Haven't you seen that gum commercial? I don't want those four legged bastards crushing my nuts just because I don't chuck my gum the instant it looses flavor.

Exactly! Down with those nut crushing ram bastards!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Somewhere in south-central England.

It depends if they are any good.

The confession came in the form of an unsigned letter sent to a newspaper. It could have been written by anyone.

Hardly a "full confession".


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They won't investigate. There is real crime to deal with-like MS-13 killing people for sport. Who gives a fig about UC San Diego?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:They won't investigate. There is real crime to deal with-like MS-13 killing people for sport. Who gives a fig about UC San Diego?


So why start a topic about UCSD and not MS-13 or did I miss it?



 
   
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Because MS-13 kills people every day. My funmeter is low.

Student "storming" a college is different. My funmeter is high.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Somewhere in south-central England.

What's MS-13?

It sounds like a food additive.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/2342--ms-13-primer-the-most-dangerous-gang-in-north-america

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Kilkrazy wrote:It depends if they are any good.

The confession came in the form of an unsigned letter sent to a newspaper. It could have been written by anyone.

Hardly a "full confession".



"As a minority student who sympathizes with the students that have been affected by the recent issues on campus, I am distraught to know that I have unintentionally added to their pain," the student wrote. She was suspended Friday and remains under investigation for a possible hate crime.


sounds like they know who it is they just didn't publicize it in the paper.

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