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Problem is, Squats spit right back!....They just have to spit hard to make it up to your face.

Reecius wrote:Problem is, Squats spit right back!....They just have to spit hard to make it up to your face.

True.

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Do you happen to remember which book that was in? Dirty Steve at WD used to get all whenever anyone would mention Space Skaven.

LOLZ at this thread. I think Hrud and DEmiurg would be decent additions, even if they are just additions to the Tau Empire.

madprophet wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Do you happen to remember which book that was in? Dirty Steve at WD used to get all whenever anyone would mention Space Skaven.

Sorry, mate, I havn't the foggiest. Not the first three I don't think, but I'm not reading through the whole series again to tell you for sure.

SonofTerra wrote:I think a pre-heresy codex, or 3 (loyalists, heretics, and xenos?) would sell great. Or even an apoc type "expansion" with new rules/units for each faction based in the 31st M.

Just imagine how many Heresy era upgrade kits they would sell.

i would totally buy a few lol. But what about the Mechanicus?
They have Skitari, the tech-guard, and contol of the most advanced weapons on mechs in the Imperium.
They could easily do something with them

What about something like the Nod from the command and conquer universe?

Or bad guys that don't worship chaos? (I personally think chaos doesn't really fit with the universe. You take a scifi universe (with some fantasy elements) and throw in a bunch of magical demon things. WTF)

GalacticDefender wrote:What about something like the Nod from the command and conquer universe?

Or bad guys that don't worship chaos? (I personally think chaos doesn't really fit with the universe. You take a scifi universe (with some fantasy elements) and throw in a bunch of magical demon things. WTF)

Demon things that are a skewed psychic mirror of the galaxies emotion!

Henners91 wrote:

Chaos Space Marines: Comparatively unique to 40k... "Dark side" faction. Seeking power at all costs/furthering the goals of a bloodthirsty deity, I get a Sith vibe... in the simplest terms

A guy named Michael Moorcock (moment of silence for pity for a writer to have such a name) was a fantasy writer in the 60's onwards, he wrote the antithesis to Conan, Elric/Stormbringer. I'd suggest checking out his Eternal Champion serious, which is where Chaos in Warhammer comes from, although he kinda sourced it off Poul Anderson but thats another can of worms isn't it? If you enjoy chaos fluff, I would highly recommend the Elric and Corum books.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Champion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_Chaos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elric_of_Melnibon%C3%A9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corum_Jhaelen_Irsei


(actually, if you read most of the Eternal champion books, you'll find ALOT of pre-GW things in there, both fantasy and 40k )

Some race of super smart Space Whales. With blow-hole cannons.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Do you happen to remember which book that was in? Dirty Steve at WD used to get all whenever anyone would mention Space Skaven.

Sorry, mate, I havn't the foggiest. Not the first three I don't think, but I'm not reading through the whole series again to tell you for sure.

I think It's either Traitor General, The Armour of Contempt or Straight Silver

RayvenQ wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Do you happen to remember which book that was in? Dirty Steve at WD used to get all whenever anyone would mention Space Skaven.

Sorry, mate, I havn't the foggiest. Not the first three I don't think, but I'm not reading through the whole series again to tell you for sure.

I think It's either Traitor General, The Armour of Contempt or Straight Silver

I have all three of those so I will see if I can find it - images of gun toting ratmen... now what codex to use, IG? LatD? Orks?

Jihallah wrote:

Henners91 wrote:

Chaos Space Marines: Comparatively unique to 40k... "Dark side" faction. Seeking power at all costs/furthering the goals of a bloodthirsty deity, I get a Sith vibe... in the simplest terms

A guy named Michael Moorcock (moment of silence for pity for a writer to have such a name) was a fantasy writer in the 60's onwards, he wrote the antithesis to Conan, Elric/Stormbringer. I'd suggest checking out his Eternal Champion serious, which is where Chaos in Warhammer comes from, although he kinda sourced it off Poul Anderson but thats another can of worms isn't it? If you enjoy chaos fluff, I would highly recommend the Elric and Corum books.
(actually, if you read most of the Eternal champion books, you'll find ALOT of pre-GW things in there, both fantasy and 40k )

didn't Michael Moorcock kill himself in his mothers basement...........moment of silence................but any way it looks like most people agree that Adeptus Mechanicus should be a legitimatized army from games workshops i think it would be awesome to see such an army....if only we could just imagine

vignor wrote:didn't Michael Moorcock kill himself

Not unless he's currently a zombie.

AlexHolker wrote:

vignor wrote:didn't Michael Moorcock kill himself

Not unless he's currently a zombie.

well then my bad wizard magazine dedicated an entire issue to some one who done something with connan the barbarian that died years back by commenting suicide ....oh well back to the topic now i feel the moron now you wasnt talking about conna the barbarian how do i delete my post


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madprophet wrote:

RayvenQ wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Do you happen to remember which book that was in? Dirty Steve at WD used to get all whenever anyone would mention Space Skaven.

Sorry, mate, I havn't the foggiest. Not the first three I don't think, but I'm not reading through the whole series again to tell you for sure.

thats Armour of contempt i think.............

I think It's either Traitor General, The Armour of Contempt or Straight Silver

I have all three of those so I will see if I can find it - images of gun toting ratmen... now what codex to use, IG? LatD? Orks?

madprophet wrote:

RayvenQ wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

They actually got a salutation in one of Dan Abnett's novels (Guant's Ghosts). The character (I forget who, Rawne/Larkin/Ludd?) was thinking about the strange fact that no matter where humanity had spread, rats always travelled with them, he also commented on the ridiculous rumours he'd heard about rats mutating into man-like creatures and enslaving the humans they had lived beneath. Quite funny when I read it.

Do you happen to remember which book that was in? Dirty Steve at WD used to get all whenever anyone would mention Space Skaven.

Sorry, mate, I havn't the foggiest. Not the first three I don't think, but I'm not reading through the whole series again to tell you for sure.

I think It's either Traitor General, The Armour of Contempt or Straight Silver

I have all three of those so I will see if I can find it - images of gun toting ratmen... now what codex to use, IG? LatD? Orks?

Guns? Who mentioned guns? ...Wryd-lazors!

With the puppet master/enslaver idea. They did that in Rogue Trader or Second ed. Tyranids could take squads of mind slaves. They were basic marine or guard infantry squads with bugs attached to their necks. I think they got lower leadership and had to be led by a Zoat. Here's a bit of old fluff I found posted.

MIND SLAVES

The Tyranids have come to the human galaxy in search of fresh genetic material to feed their Nom-Queen and revitalise the hive fleet after its long journey through space. However, not all captives are fed to the Nom-Queen; some are useful simply as food for the Tyranid bio-construcu. And some are sacrificed to the breeding programs of other creatures; it is their grisly fate to become hosts for immature grubs or the larvae of a bio-construct.

If the Tyranids want to store a captive so that he can be eaten, genetically shredded or used as a breeder host at a later date, then a special biocontruct called a Shroud-Spinner weaves an anaesthetising cocoon round the victim to keep him alive and fresh. This is the reason why traps assaulting a Tyranid ship sometimes find whole chambers of these cocooned victims.

One particular creature which feeds upon a captive during its larval stage is the parasitic Mind-Slaver. The mature MindSlaver is a crab-like bio-device which is used by the Tyranids to gain temporary control over another bio-machine which has malfunctioned or been damaged. As such, the Mind-Slaver takes over the individual mind of the bio-machine and allows the hive mind to control its mechanical functions.

The larval form of the creature is about the size of a pea or small pebble. When the egg laid by the Nom-Queen hatches, the creature is introduced to a living captive. It burrows into the captive's skull and searches out the brain stem. Here it clasps in place with its legs and attaches itself to the base of the medulla.

At first the immature creature is not powerful enough to influence its host but, as it feeds from the host's blood stream it becomes stronger, allowing the hive mind to seep into the host's brain and eventually take over and direct all of the creatures higher brain functions. These victims are known as mind slaves. Although they're captives, their actions and thoughts are completely controlled by the Tyranid hive mind.
Eventually the Mind-Slaver outgrows and destroys its host but, until it does so, the mind slave moves about the ship and performs tasks under the direction of the hive mind.

If the ship is attacked, the mind slaves will be amongst the first to move to its defence, especially if they belong to an armed warrior race whose fighting skills may be usefully employed by the Tyranids. As the Space Marines move through the spacecraft they may meet mind slaves controlled by the Tyranid hive mind and will recognise many of the creatures of the Warhammer 40,000 galaxy including Chaos Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Orks and Eldar.

The ultimate fate of a mind slave is to be sacrificed to the next part of the life cycle of a mind slaver. When it is quite large and almost fills the cranial cavity of its host, the Mind-Slaver exudes a chemical which encysts the host, dissolves him from the inside and ~ his body into nutritious soup. The MindSlaver feeds off this soup and grows into its adult form

Planet of the Apes, a race of monkey evolutions......thinks about it, big amazing CC gorillas, quick nimble chimps with artillery pieces, babboon and orangutan gunners it could actually happen. They would be hunted as human mutants by the imperium, wanted as allies by tau, worthy battle fodder for orks, and could have a really great wacky character about them, no real use of transports, but extensive use of helicopters, and small flying gunships and maybe an army wide ability like 'leap' to get an extra D6 movement when moving into combat, whole army move through cover, stealth.

Could call them the Siahns

Radi87 wrote:Planet of the Apes, a race of monkey evolutions......thinks about it, big amazing CC gorillas, quick nimble chimps with artillery pieces, babboon and orangutan gunners it could actually happen. They would be hunted as human mutants by the imperium, wanted as allies by tau, worthy battle fodder for orks, and could have a really great wacky character about them, no real use of transports, but extensive use of helicopters, and small flying gunships and maybe an army wide ability like 'leap' to get an extra D6 movement when moving into combat, whole army move through cover, stealth.

Could call them the Siahns

Catachan.

For the person who mentioned an all walker army- AdMech Knight Houses.

Thats about as close to the AdMech being a full faction that we're gonna get.

VikingScott wrote:For the person who mentioned an all walker army- AdMech Knight Houses.

Thats about as close to the AdMech being a full faction that we're gonna get.

Would be so epic, I wish the Knights made an appearance on Table top

madprophet wrote:Skaven in SPAAAACE!!!!

We already have them, they're called Hrud. Originally they even looked like space skaven, though now they're a lot more alien in appearance.