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Monster Rain wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Necroman wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:Yes it is a fan made chapter made by a 10 year old space marine player that lost every single game to my Plasma Fest army.

He should win a pulitzer. His chapter's THAT good.

Yeah his chapter Master vs my Chapter Master. My Chapter Master Basically took his chapter Master's Arm and basically beat him to death with it. (I love it when I have a Apocalypse Item called Legion Relic. He didn't get that ability. And Not only that but I used my Chapter Master's Stats. WHich aren't l33t they are balanced.)
Then my 10th company vs his 1st company. Of course I win just by moving my troops back and using a ton of tanks.

In summary:

You beat a child using made up stats and a Strategic Asset from Apocalypse and proceeded to brag about it on the internet, posting in leetspeak on top of it all.

Did I miss anything?

Well the kid cheated and used 2,000 more points than I Had. So no.
Made up stats = balanced basically a Chapter Master just with feel no pain. And then he used Angrons rules for his primarch which was stupid....

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I like homebrew chapters....Sike. I hate most of them.

Iron Lions
- Successor of the howling banshees legion marines
- green and purple color scheme with red highlights and orange eyes and yellow backpacks
- live on cadia to protect the imperial guard and fight chaos
- Were in the badab war and that's why they hate chaos marines, so they moved to cadia to fights them.

Am I doing it right guys?

Oddly enough one of the more sensible ones
Sort of joking there

My point

I don't know how people even come up with such awful stuff

It's an odd combination of Mary Sue and a large amount of narcotics i'd guess

Some people are just gifted with suckiness to answer your question Samus.

Wait. Don't you have a Chapter that consists over 6,000 marines or so?

And here I thought my female loyalist Death Guard descendant chapter I created in second/third edition was ridiculous.

Yesh, reading the hate for DIY Chapter make me glad I settled on the Crimson Fists .

Kinda dodged a 2 bullets there, since I actually hesitated between them and Ultras (And Imperial, and Salamander...).


I don't know, if I was to make a Chapter, I'd keep relatively simple...

Top of my head...

Solar Avengers:
- Successor Chapter to the Imperial Fist (Gene Seed Flaw: Missing Sus-An Membrane and Belcher Gland)
- Fleet Based Chapter, splintered off in order to protect/patrol a sector near the Ghoul Stars.
- Color Pattern: Orange and Black, with Gold trims.
- Chapter found a STC pattern for much more reliable Plasma Weapon, seeing it as a sign from the Emperor, they kept it from themselves and are pretty plasma happy, use Vanilla SM rules, has a special character (Chapter Master? Captain? Wouldn't matter much, as I'd give him 'normal' Stats) with some nifty wargear and with a Chapter Tactic that makes all plasma weapon twin linked.

I don't know, keep it simple... no weird legion origin, a clear and distinct purpose for their creation, a color pattern that actually match and have their 'gimmick special rule' linked to a special character (That you don't have to take at all, so you can play them as a 'normal' Chapter).

Melissia wrote:And here I thought my female loyalist Death Guard descendant chapter I created in second/third edition was ridiculous.

Girls can't be space marines.

Drop it before a mod sees that you're attempting to start a serious discussion on female space marines.

I was just mentioning it in passing as a, and I quote,"ridiculous" idea.

Wiglaf wrote:A pretty silly looking armor, IMO.

points at your avatar

being little hypocritical?

Devastator wrote:

Wiglaf wrote:A pretty silly looking armor, IMO.

points at your avatar

being little hypocritical?

Stay classy, mate.

I´m not the one who looks like Buzz Lightyear.

As a casual observer, this is a pretty goofy argument.

There is no winner here.

Actually Arhra is significantly cooler than blood angel termies.

Monster Rain wrote:As a casual observer, this is a pretty goofy argument.

There is no winner here.

That was not even an argument. But I don´t see the point in argue seriously about how impractical looks to me the design of SM armor since ( in my experience) nobody is going to give up ground here.

yeah eldar armor is not silly at all

Wiglaf wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:As a casual observer, this is a pretty goofy argument.

There is no winner here.

That was not even an argument. But I don´t see the point in argue seriously about how impractical looks to me the design of SM armor since ( in my experience) nobody is going to give up ground here.

You do hold a moral advantage as not being the one that began it.

Point Wiglaf.

Back on topic, there's several things people are missing about Space Marines.

Firstly, they can all take Rites of Battle, which is a nice way of boosting everyone's Leadership to 10. This is great in combination with Combat Tactics. If memory serves, Codex Space Marines and Blood Angels can only do this with Special Characters (Tycho and Sicarius), but Dark Angels can still get it on generic Captains.

Codex Space Marines require a Captain to unlock Command Squads, while Dark Angels can take a Command Squad for every HQ and their Command Squads are Fearless. Fearless is a two-edged sword, but handy if your opponents cotton onto how effective pinning can be against Space Marines.

Devastator wrote:yeah eldar armor is not silly at all

How could be silly -meaning impractical- a tight fitting armor-suit? all the superheros wears one like that. Even the Iron Man suit look more eldar than SM.


Admit it, you´re stuck in the 70´s.

Nurglitch wrote:Back on topic, there's several things people are missing about Space Marines.

Firstly, they can all take Rites of Battle, which is a nice way of boosting everyone's Leadership to 10. This is great in combination with Combat Tactics. If memory serves, Codex Space Marines and Blood Angels can only do this with Special Characters (Tycho and Sicarius), but Dark Angels can still get it on generic Captains.

Codex Space Marines require a Captain to unlock Command Squads, while Dark Angels can take a Command Squad for every HQ and their Command Squads are Fearless. Fearless is a two-edged sword, but handy if your opponents cotton onto how effective pinning can be against Space Marines.

it is a bummer that Rites got lost in the codex creap and was relagated to a character that is pretty lackluster.

he is worth his points, but he competes with generic and special characters that are more points efficiant.

and he is pretty expensive.



i really do miss a bunch of the 4th ed marine codex. they took out all the creative parts.

If the move from 4th edition to 5th edition took the creative parts out, then they should lose 'creativity' altogether.

Sicarius costs a ton because he's worth a ton. Unlike other Space Marine Captains he really enhances the whole army. Rites of Battle is just the beginning. Rites of Battle in combination with Combat Tactics is just grand. Plus there's Suprise Attack and Battle-Forged Heroes. Suprise Attack nearly doubles your chance of seizing the first turn, and Battle-Forged Heroes makes Tactical Squads really flexible. I really like what he does for an army.

Nurglitch wrote:Plus there's Suprise Attack and Battle-Forged Heroes. Suprise Attack nearly doubles your chance of seizing the first turn, and Battle-Forged Heroes makes Tactical Squads really flexible.

Or just awesome at what you want them to be specialized in.

A melta and combi-melta with Tank Hunters is awful nice.

Just Dave wrote:
Wait. Don't you have a Chapter that consists over 6,000 marines or so?

Yes. But now it is down to 3,000. 3,000 of them are the Son's Of Asherian.
The Storm Crusaders have at least 3,600 Battle Brothers (including scouts and support staff.)
But the chapter is spread so thinly its more like independent more than ever. Except for the war in the Grimnar Systems as there are 5 companies present there. And 3 companies present at the Homeworlds.

Meh, not a big fan of loyalists, but their fun to fight!

Frankie wrote:Meh, not a big fan of loyalists, but their fun to fight!

Thats perfectly reasonable.

I have to say I dislike that so many people play marines - that's my only quabble with them. They're a little silly (as are all the 40k races), and I think even a power armour fest can be great between two skilled players.

The only thing I ever want from the model line though is a box of terminators - they just scream "paint me".

Wish I could start them and not sigh at how many people have done it (and done it better than I ever can) already.

Guess it's good that GW released new DE.

Asherian Command wrote:

Just Dave wrote:
Wait. Don't you have a Chapter that consists over 6,000 marines or so?

Yes. But now it is down to 3,000. 3,000 of them are the Son's Of Asherian.
The Storm Crusaders have at least 3,600 Battle Brothers (including scouts and support staff.)
But the chapter is spread so thinly its more like independent more than ever. Except for the war in the Grimnar Systems as there are 5 companies present there. And 3 companies present at the Homeworlds.

Yes, but when people are complaining - you included - about how people make their chapters so much better than everything else and you have created one more than three times (originally 6x) the size of a standard chapter then, to me atleast, it screams of irony. I almost admire how deeply you've gone into your chapters detail and your attempts to justify their numbers, but it doesn't change quite how much of the 40K 'rules'/conventions you've 'broken'.

I like Awesomeberry Blue flavour, now with Gold-Bling Frosting.

Just Dave wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Just Dave wrote:
Wait. Don't you have a Chapter that consists over 6,000 marines or so?

Yes. But now it is down to 3,000. 3,000 of them are the Son's Of Asherian.
The Storm Crusaders have at least 3,600 Battle Brothers (including scouts and support staff.)
But the chapter is spread so thinly its more like independent more than ever. Except for the war in the Grimnar Systems as there are 5 companies present there. And 3 companies present at the Homeworlds.

Yes, but when people are complaining - you included - about how people make their chapters so much better than everything else and you have created one more than three times (originally 6x) the size of a standard chapter then, to me atleast, it screams of irony. I almost admire how deeply you've gone into your chapters detail and your attempts to justify their numbers, but it doesn't change quite how much of the 40K 'rules'/conventions you've 'broken'.

Yeah I broke a few rules but eh what ever.
I have taken great lengths to explain it. At least i'm not like insane and claim i have 20,000 Space marines.

Jubear wrote:Dislike the fluff

Dislike that they are twice as cheap to play as other races

Dislike that everyone plays them and no I dont care about whatever lame fluff you have come up with for your stupid custom chapters (most peoples fluff is bad! like fan fiction bad)

I do like the models however they look great crucified on my BWs

BOO HOO, that is all.

I beat a child....but not in Warhammer.

And inb4 the lock.

I prefer Fiery Green Apple and Bloody Cherrbomb flavors.

Shadowbrand wrote:I beat a child....but not in Warhammer.

I'll be needing some of this.

Marines are common, But Orks...EWWWW I got given a 10k Orc army and it just sits in my room, occasionly copping an insult as i walk by


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Off Topic:

Are there any wolves on Fenris?

sebster wrote:Of course not. There are creatures that look exactly like wolves, that are named after the latin word for wolf, that are closely associated with the space marine chapter the Space Wolves. But there's no wolves.

LOL!!!!!