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Sanctjud wrote:@AF:
Really? 2 games should dictate whether or not a unit is garbage...

Everything in 40K can and will fail.
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DAaddict:
You don't have to do it that way.
Zerkers CAN charge out of an umoved Rhino. The threat distance is NOT 12", but 16" when you factor in disembarkment; it makes a big difference.

True story....

I lost 5 terminators out of a deep-strike in perfect positioned from one blast. Everyone except the Sgt. Rolled a fail for their save.

I assume your Daemons did the same..... I don't know how to address this, I never summoned them. But I do understand that you have 2 bad experiences and these pro guys have several positive experiences. I truely wish it would be ok to keep their old stats, so Nurgle could hold, Horros could shoot, Daemonettes could assist weeding and Khorn could assault separately.