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Brother SRM wrote:^^^ You mean IG vs Nids? You wrote IG vs Guard

That would actually be pretty cool. Basically the set is designed to have to futuristic armies slugging it out. The set is designed for the two armies to be opposing forces. You and a friend can buy the set and paint the armies in two different colour schemes. Or the people with keen eyes, would buy the set and combine the two armies into one!

20x Imperial Guard Cadian Shock Troops
1x Imperial Guard Leman Russ Battle Tank
1x Imperial Guard Lord Commissar

20x Imperial Guard Cadian Shock Troops
2x Imperial Guard Sentinel
1x Imperial Guard Lord Commissar (different sculpt)

In addition you would have two sprues of bitz to use as icons to differentiate the armies.

Of course you would probably need a better set up than the one I listed above, but you get the idea.

Grey Knights and Demons. Bring the Demons back around with an updated Codex and it's still Space Marines without being too vanilla.

Imperial Guard versus CSM.

Standard horde vs elite kit, but inverted.

Demiurge Vs Hrud

Either SM V Tau
Or SM V Nids.

SM v Tau
1 Captain
2 Tactical Squads
1 Rhino
1 Dreadnought

Tau
1 Ethereal
2 Fire Warrior Squads
Hammer Head
1 Kroot Squad

SM V Nids
Same for SM as before

Nids
1 Hive Tyrant
2 Squads of Gaunts
1 Squad of Gene Stealers
1 Squad of Biovores or Pyrovores.

Eldar vs Space Marines (The battle of the sepulchre)
Eldar:
Avatar (exclusive to this set): 155 points
10 guardians with shuriken cannon: 85
5 Howling banshees: 80
5 fire dragons: 80
Wave serpent: 90
total: 490

Space marines:
Marneus Calgar (exclusive): 250
10 tactical marines and captain with powerfist: 115
Techmarine with power weapon and sevitor: 75
Rhino with storm bolter: 45
total: 485

Designed so that new players can expand to it, Should inculde a brief outline of the battle, a scenario to go with it, and simplified models (like the black reach ones). Should also include all the special rules for each faction.

no tanks. Equalled out pointswise with common troops and a punk HQ, a small 'other' troop/cav/bike/specialty squad and a walker/mc-ish thing. Tanks would just not fit in the box unless assembled. The sprue frames are huge.

Doesn't matter which faction, but supposing SM vs Eldar:

SM: captain, 2 different tactical squads, 3 bikers (or 5 termies or 5 scouts, whatever), 1 dread

Eldar: farseer, 2 guardians squads, 1 dire avengers squad, 3 jetbikes (or 3 wraithguard?), wraithlord or warwalker

or chaos vs guard
CSM: lord, 2-3 CSM squads, obliterators or flesh hounds or raptors or something, dread or demon

IG: officer, basic guardsmen, stormtroopers or heavy weapon teams, sentinels

Then add in a ruleboox, dice, stick, as usual plus:
a sprue of terrain bits (or even cardboard walls a-la 2nd. ed.), and a scenario book (disappointly lacking in AoBR)

Maybe scrap the rhino, but a falcon, that would be cool, maybe only a four piece model (like the dreadnaught). But noobs to the game (it is a starter kit) would love a tank, of any kind.


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plus the HQ should be kept the same to match the story in the space marine codex

From the way it sounds its likely the next will be vanilla marines vs vanilla marines.... It would sell well but would hardly make the game better. (more marine oversaturation)

Personally; I'd like something from this list:

Elysian Drop Troops vs Tau
Dark Angels vs Eldar
Death Korps of Krieg vs Traitor Guard
Grey Knights vs Chaos Daemons
Sisters of Battle vs Traitor Guard

New, gets people into the game AND gets people to actually play different/more unique armies.

I'd keep the dice, templates, and book, but drop those weird red things and put in a decent tape measure. Cardboard terrain as they use to would also go into the box. As for armies I would stick Tau and Guard in there, though if marines must be had it would be marines versus tau.

I'm on a tau binge lately, forgive me.