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what about some blood angel love?

Mephiston almost guarantees you the charge with a potential 24" range. Has strength 10, high initiative, high toughness. He will be able to get the charge and hit before most other characters. His transfixing gaze also makes an ic take leadership test at -4 and if failed gets all re rolled hits and wounds.
-6 attacks on the charge with a force weapon @ strength 10 and initiative 7 with ws 7, 24" potential charge. 5 wounds with toughness 6.

Sanguinor would also be a strong choice. 18" assault and re rolls to hits and to wounds.
-18' charge range, 7 attacks on the charge with ws 8 and initiative 6.

pjmcgrath07 wrote:what about some blood angel love?

Mephiston almost guarantees you the charge with a potential 24" range. Has strength 10, high initiative, high toughness. He will be able to get the charge and hit before most other characters. His transfixing gaze also makes an ic take leadership test at -4 and if failed gets all re rolled hits and wounds.
-6 attacks on the charge with a force weapon @ strength 10 and initiative 7 with ws 7, 24" potential charge. 5 wounds with toughness 6.

Sanguinor would also be a strong choice. 18" assault and re rolls to hits and to wounds.
-18' charge range, 7 attacks on the charge with ws 8 and initiative 6.

These are both great against anyone but C'tan, I don't think the c'tan should be included in something like this anyway.

EmilCrane wrote:These are both great against anyone but C'tan, I don't think the c'tan should be included in something like this anyway.

Mephiston eats C'tan for lunch.

And most everyone else as well.

Hard to beat this guy...

i really never played against nor have read up on the ctans codex entries so i have no idea what they are capable of beside the nightbringer(believe thats his name) denying all saves. Are the psykers or have a hood? whats general stats

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Any character standing on top of a hill with his fist in the air is the best.

Abaddon

imweasel wrote:

EmilCrane wrote:These are both great against anyone but C'tan, I don't think the c'tan should be included in something like this anyway.

Mephiston eats C'tan for lunch.

And most everyone else as well.

Hard to beat this guy...

Sanguinor will eat Mephiston for lunch. And he'll support his army while he's at it. Mephiston may be really good at what he does (looking at gak and making it die), but the Sanguinor works two shifts and overtime and still has the time to kick ass.

I'm kinda likin the Baharroth idea. Although, I'm now picturing him vs. Deathleaper and seeing a completely empty board for the entire match.

imweasel wrote:

EmilCrane wrote:These are both great against anyone but C'tan, I don't think the c'tan should be included in something like this anyway.

Mephiston eats C'tan for lunch.

And most everyone else as well.

Hard to beat this guy...

I don't know what you define as lunch, but the two models I know of that can easily defeat a C'tan in hth is Meph and that nid lashwhip-bonesword thingie. That's a far cry from "everyone".

pjmcgrath07 wrote:i really never played against nor have read up on the ctans codex entries so i have no idea what they are capable of beside the nightbringer(believe thats his name) denying all saves. Are the psykers or have a hood? whats general stats

Both C'tan deny saves and have a wide variety of board messing around abilities, the Nightbringer is the hardest hitter though at Str. 10 and T 8 with 5 base attacks.

An'ggrath the unbound is technically a special character right? :p

I'd use him under Daemon codex rules (No possestion). He'd just step on Mephy.

obsidianaura wrote:An'ggrath the unbound is technically a special character right? :p

I'd use him under Daemon codex rules (No possestion). He'd just step on Mephy.

...wow. Yes, you're technically allowed to use An'ggrath, but... jeez. Why not go with Angron from that WD article straight away?

Skulltaker is enough for mephisto, and he might bring the ctan down too

I second the choice for An'ggrath.

I'd take Zaraknel before An'ggrath. She ignores invul saves. Though, realistically, any of those gargantuan daemon lords are in a category far far better than anyone else. They've all got similar toughness and saves as the C'Tan, with more wounds to go through, and the ability to ignore the instant-kill problems that the C'Tan suffer from.

The Tzeentch bird is pretty good too. Being gargantuan, only the other lords could lock it in combat. Each turn, it hits you with a S8/AP1 shot, 3 s5-ap3 shots, creates a new unit of horrors to start shooting at you, and has a 1/6 chance of turning you into a chaos spawn outright - and that's before it assaults you... Defensively, it's got massive toughness and wounds and a 3++.

Wait, we're allowing daemon lords now?

Angron - I am Angron, Primarch of the world eaters and death incarnate, the greatest champion of Khorne, the most powerful being to ever...

(Bright flash)

Angron - (Squig bark)

Zogwart - Hurr .

I doubt they'd allow it, but if they did An'ggrath is the most awesome. Guardian of the Throne of Skulls, Most favoured of Khorne, Lord of Bloodthirsters, the Deathbringer.

I'm slightly biased by having him but he's definatly more powerful than Angron.

His armour was made by Khorne himself! How powerfull must you be when Khorne is your personal tailor!

The Changeling. Best 22 points ever(5pts if you don't count the horror you upgrade to him).

Redbeard wrote:
The Tzeentch bird is pretty good too. Being gargantuan, only the other lords could lock it in combat. Each turn, it hits you with a S8/AP1 shot, 3 s5-ap3 shots, creates a new unit of horrors to start shooting at you, and has a 1/6 chance of turning you into a chaos spawn outright - and that's before it assaults you... Defensively, it's got massive toughness and wounds and a 3++.

I can't pronounce/spell/remember it's name but this.

Hardest model I've ever had the misfortune of trying to kill. Worth way more than it's 999pts.

VikingScott wrote:

Redbeard wrote:
The Tzeentch bird is pretty good too. Being gargantuan, only the other lords could lock it in combat. Each turn, it hits you with a S8/AP1 shot, 3 s5-ap3 shots, creates a new unit of horrors to start shooting at you, and has a 1/6 chance of turning you into a chaos spawn outright - and that's before it assaults you... Defensively, it's got massive toughness and wounds and a 3++.

I can't pronounce/spell/remember it's name but this.

Hardest model I've ever had the misfortune of trying to kill. Worth way more than it's 999pts.

I really like the model just wish the wings didn't look so rounded at the edges.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

imweasel wrote:

EmilCrane wrote:These are both great against anyone but C'tan, I don't think the c'tan should be included in something like this anyway.

Mephiston eats C'tan for lunch.

And most everyone else as well.

Hard to beat this guy...

I don't know what you define as lunch, but the two models I know of that can easily defeat a C'tan in hth is Meph and that nid lashwhip-bonesword thingie. That's a far cry from "everyone".

I meant mephiston eats most everyone for lunch.

imweasel wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

imweasel wrote:

EmilCrane wrote:These are both great against anyone but C'tan, I don't think the c'tan should be included in something like this anyway.

Mephiston eats C'tan for lunch.

And most everyone else as well.

Hard to beat this guy...

I don't know what you define as lunch, but the two models I know of that can easily defeat a C'tan in hth is Meph and that nid lashwhip-bonesword thingie. That's a far cry from "everyone".

I meant mephiston eats most everyone for lunch.

Oh, OK, I stand corrected. Still, there's more things out there that can take him in CC than things that can take a C'tan

Ghazz, pure utter monster.

Honestly the one and only best char in any wargame is the dice lol

You could take shrike and wait for everyone to kill eachother then outflank on and kill the survivors.

Bennowar wrote:

dirkthe1 wrote:
Anyone remember the warhammer fantasy special character face off they did many years ago-ten points if you can name the winner and what was special about the whole thing.

Bloodthirster IIRC.

And he got a Throne Of Dice.

He did but he won and wasnt actually a special character-they only put him in as it was new model and they needed one more to make up numbers

Maugan Ra wouldn't be half bad. Can't ignore invulnerable saves, but can ignore both armor and cover with a longer range assault cannon. He's got a chance against most enemies, though the C'tan are probably winning this.

If you can start a decent distance away then Eldrad is my personnal preferance... You can get fortune up beforehand and throw a few mind wars downfield while backing up. Once you get into combat you can wound on 2's and ignore saves, against vehicles your strength 9. And the majority of the time you have a re-rollable 3++ (89% chance to pass as opposed to an 83% chance on a 2++)

Proberly a C'tan if you have to start within charge distance.

dayve110 wrote:If you can start a decent distance away then Eldrad is my personnal preferance... You can get fortune up beforehand and throw a few mind wars downfield while backing up. Once you get into combat you can wound on 2's and ignore saves, against vehicles your strength 9. And the majority of the time you have a re-rollable 3++ (89% chance to pass as opposed to an 83% chance on a 2++)

Proberly a C'tan if you have to start within charge distance.

witchblades aren t pws unless I recall eldrad having a varient

Eldrad has his staff, though only gets 1 swing with it which works as described.