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Surely Kharn, purely so you can shout blood for the blood god all the time and eventually someone will respond.

Calgar is pretty awesome, and if it wasnt for that fact he is blue...


Anyone remember the warhammer fantasy special character face off they did many years ago-ten points if you can name the winner and what was special about the whole thing.

I think that depending on what the range they start apart and what terrian is available will determine this. if 24 inches are more available, then I would place bets on Wazdakka or Fateweaver.


However Deathleaper can play hide/disappear all day and not die.

This is an interesting scenario. With only 2 models on board and a fight to the death, there's plenty of room to maneuver. And, you don't need to worry about holding an objective.

So, given those constraints, I'm going to go out of the box and suggest something shocking.

A model so bad, so worthless, so overcosted that most people don't even know who he is.

No, I'm not talking the Space Pope. I'm talking about his slightly better friend...

BAHARROTH

(He's friends with the Space Pope because they spend their entire existence together sitting in a GW warehouse waiting to be sold.)

Now, I know what you're thinking: S4 T4 W3? Sure he has EW, but doesn't have an invul save. His CC ability is decent, but nothing special. Why him?

One word: Skyleap

Baharroth deep strikes, drops his S4 AP5 large blast and then runs away back into reserves all before your opponent has a chance to do anything!!!

He is completely unkillable provided there's room enough for him to deep strike without mishap. And, since there's only 2 models on the board, that shouldn't be an issue.

He'll take all the time he needs to slowly whittle down any opponent, provided they are T7 or less. Against T8+, neither model will be able to hurt the other and you'll end up with the most boring, endless game of all time. But, he wouldn't lose.

To the person stating SC's aren't affected by Zogwort's Curse: You are wrong good sir since all SC's have the IC rule

As it is this is an interesting scenario. I'd go orky and take either: Ghazz since he kills things - period; Wazdakka for drive-by shooting that you can't really touch; or Old Zogwort just so your entire effort on fielding the most badass character you like has been wasted because it's now a crummy squig
From other dexs, I'd probs grab the Nightbringer because he is an absolute monster in CC.

Juvieus Kaine wrote:To the person stating SC's aren't affected by Zogwort's Curse: You are wrong good sir since all SC's have the IC rule

Straken, Creed and any other IG character (excluding Yarrick ofc)

Juvieus Kaine wrote:To the person stating SC's aren't affected by Zogwort's Curse: You are wrong good sir since all SC's have the IC rule

That isn't true, at all.

The only Tyranid SCs that are IC is the Parasite of Mortrex.

Even in Orks (Zogworts army, and, if your signature accurate, your army) has Zagstruk, Snikrot, and Badrukk who are all not IC.

Ghazzy, or zogwort just turning everyone into squigs. Let's see how great that deceiver really is when he turns into the great squiggly beast.

Juvieus Kaine wrote:To the person stating SC's aren't affected by Zogwort's Curse: You are wrong good sir since all SC's have the IC rule

Sanguinor (jump infantry), DC Tycho and Mephiston (infantry) say hi!

OK, back to awesome characters-I like
GHAZZGHKULL!!!
or however its spelled
just eat face in CC and youll be good.

Grakmar wrote:
BAHARROTH

Given the constraints of the actual proposition of the OP, this is the clear winner. It wasn't a general question.

dirkthe1 wrote:
Anyone remember the warhammer fantasy special character face off they did many years ago-ten points if you can name the winner and what was special about the whole thing.

Bloodthirster IIRC.

And he got a Throne Of Dice.

stompydakka wrote:GHAZGHKULL!!!

This.

CC monster that'll eat near everything in CC. Doesn't he also get a 2++ save?

Grakmar wrote:This is an interesting scenario. With only 2 models on board and a fight to the death, there's plenty of room to maneuver. And, you don't need to worry about holding an objective.

So, given those constraints, I'm going to go out of the box and suggest something shocking.

A model so bad, so worthless, so overcosted that most people don't even know who he is.

No, I'm not talking the Space Pope. I'm talking about his slightly better friend...

BAHARROTH

(He's friends with the Space Pope because they spend their entire existence together sitting in a GW warehouse waiting to be sold.)

Now, I know what you're thinking: S4 T4 W3? Sure he has EW, but doesn't have an invul save. His CC ability is decent, but nothing special. Why him?

One word: Skyleap

Baharroth deep strikes, drops his S4 AP5 large blast and then runs away back into reserves all before your opponent has a chance to do anything!!!

He is completely unkillable provided there's room enough for him to deep strike without mishap. And, since there's only 2 models on the board, that shouldn't be an issue.

He'll take all the time he needs to slowly whittle down any opponent, provided they are T7 or less. Against T8+, neither model will be able to hurt the other and you'll end up with the most boring, endless game of all time. But, he wouldn't lose.

Depending on terrain set-up and board size, Njal might give you some hassle if he repeatedly gets Tempest's Wrath off. On a 4 foot by 4 foot board, having Njal in the centre of the board means he's got basically everywhere covered.

Avatar 720 wrote:
Depending on terrain set-up and board size, Njal might give you some hassle if he repeatedly gets Tempest's Wrath off. On a 4 foot by 4 foot board, having Njal in the centre of the board means he's got basically everywhere covered.

Baharroth doesn't really give a rip about difficult or dangerous terrain. Neither of those things cause mishaps.

They don't need to cause mishaps? For him to be able to Skyleap, he needs to be on the board, and for him to be on the board, he needs to have landed in the dangerous terrain, which means taking a dangerous terrain check; 3 failed checks and he's down.

id say asurmen. his diresword is so good plus he lasts forever

Avatar 720 wrote:They don't need to cause mishaps? For him to be able to Skyleap, he needs to be on the board, and for him to be on the board, he needs to have landed in the dangerous terrain, which means taking a dangerous terrain check; 3 failed checks and he's down.

Good point on Njal. But, it still may be a close fight.

Baharroth would take 1/6 wounds per turn, so he'd take 18 turns to die.

Njal would need to survive 18 S4 attacks and 18 chances of PotW.

First, PotW: He needs 18 successes. 3/36 chance of failure, so he'll need to do 2 casts 1.5 times. 19.5 casts * 2/36 chance * 3/4 to not save = 0.8125 of a wound

Second, Swooping Hawk Grenade attacks. 18 of them. 1/3 hits, 2/3 scatters. A scatter only goes d6 for these. So, with a 2.5" radius on the blast template and a 0.5" radius on the model base, anything with a 3" or less scatter will hit. 1/2 of the time.
18 attacks * (1/3 + 2/3*1/2) hit * 1/2 wound * 1/6 unsaved = 1 wound.

So, typically, Baharroth dies with Njal having 0.1875 wounds remaining. Njal wins, but that's a VERY small margin.

Kharn the betrayer

dirkthe1 wrote:Anyone remember the warhammer fantasy special character face off they did many years ago-ten points if you can name the winner and what was special about the whole thing.

Wasn't that the one where the Witch King dude beat someone, who beat Grimgor, who beat the Witch King, resulting in a circle of carnage?

Okay guess I'm not right after all... *profanities*

I'd vote Ahriman, he's got lots of versatility, and at worst has about a 40% chance to turn the enemy into a chaos spawn.

Greetings!

The answer depends on the format.

In an army vs. army setting, Ghazghkull Thraka can kill anyone by himself. He's not so good in a boss battle because he'll get sniped apart at range.

When I play in boss battles, I actually tend to go with Tau and use a Shas'o, in your case, Commander Farsight would be a good choice. You can snipe at people with plasma while JSJ 12" every turn, and no one will be able to catch you, especially if its a 1v1 setting.

Otherwise Wazdakka or Bjorn the Fellhanded seem like the best choices.

Dashofpepper wrote:
In an army vs. army setting, Ghazghkull Thraka can kill anyone by himself.

Except the C'tans. They will stomp him flat and eat his hat (+10 interwebz to whoever gets it),

Easy, it has to be abbadon the despoiler
upto 14 attacks strength 8 and 2 plus save
he also gets to re-roll all failed hits and wounds

death2emperor wrote:Easy, it has to be abbadon the despoiler
upto 14 attacks strength 8 and 2 plus save
he also gets to re-roll all failed hits and wounds

And would do 0 wounds to Baharroth with his up to 11 Attacks (not 14).

The Nightbringer kills all.

Unless he is turned into a squig .

Abstrul Vect?
Awesome weapon skill and a power weapon that wounds on a 3 plus.
Mounted on the dais of destruction would make a mess out of any foot slogging HQ.
Also he has a 2++ save.
Then again you are incredabily screwed if you lose the 2++ save...
But he might win.

The Nightbringer ignores all saves.
No 2++ for you .

Nightbringer vs Nightbringer (or is one of them the Deciever disguised as the Nightbringer? or are they both the Deciever? Who knows?).

Avatar 720 wrote:Nightbringer vs Nightbringer (or is one of them the Deciever disguised as the Nightbringer? or are they both the Deciever? Who knows?).

I pull this trick hen I forget my Deceiver model