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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 19:58:34
Subject: Eldar population...
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Brother Coa wrote:Eldrad wrote:There were about a trillion eldar home worlds.
Where did you read that? You are saying that the Eldar have more homeworlds than our galaxy have stars?
I always thought that they had around few thousand worlds in the galaxy, or maybe million like the IoM, but trillion?
EDIT: Nope I'm wrong looks like it was much smaller
Looked up some fluff some indicates it was actually larger while most indicates it was many times smaller.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/03 20:02:20
"AM are bunch of half human-half robot monkeys who keep tech working by punching it with a wrench And their tech is so sophisticated that you could never get it wrapped it out" thing a LITTLE to seriously. It also goes "Tau tech is so awesome I wish I was Tau and not some stupid Human" thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 20:02:58
Subject: Eldar population...
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Furious Fire Dragon
In my game room playing Specialist GW games
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BeefCakeSoup wrote:Brother Coa wrote:Eldrad wrote:There were about a trillion eldar home worlds.
Where did you read that? You are saying that the Eldar have more homeworlds than our galaxy have stars?
I always thought that they had around few thousand worlds in the galaxy, or maybe million like the IoM, but trillion?
Eldar had a larger Empire than the IoM. Apart from the Old Ones it was perhaps the largest.
No way it was trillions maybe 1.5 million or something but not trillions.
yep, only tens of thousands
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"Khorne is a noble warrior who respects strength and bravery, who takes no joy in destroying the weak, and considers the helpless unworthy of his wrath. It is said that fate will spare any brave warrior who calls upon Khorne's name and pledges his soul to the blood god. It is also said that Khorne's daemons will hunt down and destroy any warrior who betrays his honour by killing a helpless innocent or murdering in cold blood..."
from the Renegades supplement for Epic Space Marine, page 54-55
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 20:18:31
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Maybe we will have trilion worlds one day, when we collide with Andromeda...
Now back to the OP, does anyone know where Exodite worlds are? Halo zone, galactic far rim, Segmentum Pacificus?
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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 20:21:52
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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They tent to be on the galactic rim I believe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 20:23:42
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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So is there a chance that some of them have advanced Eldar technologies from before the fall?
Do they keep contact with Craftworld Eldar?
And what about their relationship with DE?
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 20:33:53
Subject: Re:Eldar population...
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Ancient Eldar split into 4 different factions: Craftworld, Dark, Exodites and Harlequins based on the way they found to survive The Fall. In general they don't associate or trust each other much but they have interected with each other. The results vary of course. Automatically Appended Next Post: Exodites have their own technology but try to live rustic lives as much as possible. I think they favor lasblasters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 20:51:50
Subject: Re:Eldar population...
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Furious Fire Dragon
In my game room playing Specialist GW games
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Well, the Exodites for the most part headed eastwards as far away from the main concentration of Eldar worlds as they could reach.
The map in the Eldar codex 4th edition has their worlds in the Ghoul Stars and right in the path of the Hive Fleet Behemoth and Hive Fleet Kraken near the Tau.
As far as their technology goes, they do have many advanced technologies and are familiar with all the sophisticated materials used on the craftworlds.
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"Khorne is a noble warrior who respects strength and bravery, who takes no joy in destroying the weak, and considers the helpless unworthy of his wrath. It is said that fate will spare any brave warrior who calls upon Khorne's name and pledges his soul to the blood god. It is also said that Khorne's daemons will hunt down and destroy any warrior who betrays his honour by killing a helpless innocent or murdering in cold blood..."
from the Renegades supplement for Epic Space Marine, page 54-55
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 10:26:28
Subject: Re:Eldar population...
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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There are probably many more Eldar in the galaxy than the Imperium suspects. My guess is that the Eldar are not showing this, as they wish to keep the actual numbers of their population unknown, as thish could present an advantage in large wars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 11:44:48
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Not really intending to take this off tangent but, could the eldar use the cloning tech mentioned by the DE to begin increasing their numbers, if they wanted to get past the whole emo we're dying off thing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 11:48:46
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I think the problem is less of reproduction (the Dark Eldar are insane even for 40k standards, and use cloning to circumvent raising a child as well), but more that young Eldar more and more choose not to follow the path, and leave the Craftworld for a galaxy of adventure as a pirate or ranger, dying far away.
The path structure is too much for them, so the decline is in culture rather than pure numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 12:35:26
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Frazzled wrote:Not really intending to take this off tangent but, could the eldar use the cloning tech mentioned by the DE to begin increasing their numbers, if they wanted to get past the whole emo we're dying off thing?
IIRC, being cloned means they're born without a soul or something. I also think that the Dark Eldar cloning tech is a Dark Eldar thing that their light cousins don't necessarily posess. I mean, they hardly use any of the same technology, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 12:39:51
Subject: Eldar population...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That, or they may have qualms about using it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 17:36:03
Subject: Re:Eldar population...
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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DE don't clone, they're in vitro test tube babies but still conceived naturally. Considering its one of the reasons DE are the way they are I wouldn't go down that road either if I were craftworld either. Also there's only so much room on a craftworld and many are at their maximum capacity already. Eldar are not for living in closets like their human hiveworlder friends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/04 18:11:22
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The Conquerer
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well, the DE as a whole use the Test Tube process, but they do occasionally do it the natural way.
Natural born DE hold themselves as superior to those born in test tubes.
DE with enough wealth can even cheat death. they hack a piece of their body off(a finger will do) and send it to a Homonculus. He can then use the Finger/whatever they hacked off to grow the DE a new body for his soul to inhabit.
naturally the price is steep so you either have to give him alot of new toys or have him indebted to you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/05 01:05:00
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Mysterious Techpriest
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:DE don't clone, they're in vitro test tube babies but still conceived naturally. Considering its one of the reasons DE are the way they are I wouldn't go down that road either if I were craftworld either.
It doesn't necessarily have to be conceived naturally either; a fertilized egg can be produced in a lab, which would make more sense than trying to extract it from a living host. There's also no side effects of the process mentioned, aside from being permanently stuck in a lower social class than the nobility who reproduce naturally.
Grey Templar wrote:DE with enough wealth can even cheat death. they hack a piece of their body off(a finger will do) and send it to a Homonculus. He can then use the Finger/whatever they hacked off to grow the DE a new body for his soul to inhabit.
naturally the price is steep so you either have to give him alot of new toys or have him indebted to you.
The price is part of their soul, and they're revived from whatever could be recovered from their body after death, not a piece removed preemptively.
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