Seven Ways Rick Perry Hates the USA and Democracy

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**Chowderhead**

lord commissar klimino wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:I guess my argument boils down to a sentence. If you hate gays (Not gay marriage, that is a different argument) then you hate the idea of love and the idea of freedom. I'm going to play that card.

well im going against gay marriage so

Cool. I can respect that.

and even if you hate them,which i don't,that doesn't mean your against freedom.

It means you believe that a group of people who believe in something different than you are less of a person, than that's not freedom. The last people to become famous doing this were GODWIN'S LAW IS BEING INVOKED.

its your freedom to not have to see 2 guys all googly over each other when you leave the house.

It's also your freedom to look away. Don't intrude on business that isn't yours.

it is saying something against love i guess.

Thanks you for that.

**Da Boss**

I prefer to think of it as the OT finally ASCENDING to a glorious abortion gay marriage gun control gakfest.

GET INTO IT!

AWWW YEAH, WE GONE AND GODWIN'D IT!

(Man, I've been through this argument at least 10 times online and this one still looks like being the most fun.)

**Chowderhead**

Da Boss wrote:I prefer to think of it as the OT finally ASCENDING to a glorious abortion gay marriage gun control gakfest.

GET INTO IT!

Yeah baby! This is the first Political thread I've been on for a while. Pretty successful, IMHO.

**o0shotty0o**

Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:I agree 100% with klimino , being gay is unatural and quite sick i also try to avoide gays. As for abortions ....how would you like to be killed before you were even born and not even given the chance to live. Even if you dont know your mother and father , if the sperm entered the egg even if its not concious the seed has been planted and removing it IS killing that person.And that is murder!
My opinion is becaus i was brougt up in a normal family a normal mother and father and normal brothers and sister and anyone who says other wise is wierd.

Sure. By normal, do you mean in a god fearing Christian house where Fox News was played via loudspeaker every hour of every day?

Because I think Mr. Cannerus would like to have a word with you.

No actully my religion is islam, are you going to insult me for being a musil in your next post ? I am not a strict muslim, i dont pray or go to mosques even though ide like to , i just dont have the time for it , in fact im caucasion my mother is english , its my father who is muslim , i get ready everyday and go out with frainds and go out with girls and party on the weekends so im sorry to burst you bubble mate but i am normal.

You know, that's fine. I applaud you for being a Muslim at such a time where the average Muslim is being stereotyped and such.

However, that does not excuse the rampant homophobia that you show. Why do you hate gay people? Because Romans and Greeks had no problem with gays. And seeing as how you are French, and your system of government is based on the US, which in turn is based on the Greeco-Roman systems, then you should be accepting of gays. Why, just today, I had a gay couple sit next to me during the Red Bull Cliff Diving event. They did no harm to me or my friends, they did not hit on me, and they did not have lewd acts in public. They were simply in love. What's wrong with love?

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence. If you hate gays (Not gay marriage, that is a different argument) then you hate the idea of love and the idea of freedom. I'm going to play that card.

Your move, Shotty!

First of all when did i say i hate gays ? And also there is no such thing as freedom , this is the animal kingdom the stongest survive and the weak perish , you americans are really brain dead beliveing in these false freedoms your gouverment force fed you since you were born, and since the stongest are the humans due to our intilect we have florished more than any other species ,
And also im on holiday in france i go back to uni in september.

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence, If humens were born naturally gay thay wouldent be able to reproduse and hence perish.

Checkmate, Chowderhead

**dogma**

lord commissar klimino wrote:
you trollin? or just colorblind?

black is bad,white is good.

Then why is Halle Berry so cute?

**Da Boss**

Dude, homosexual behaviours occur in other animals.
How can you define "natural"?

I mean, what do I know, I'm just a biologist. But I can't.

**dogma**

Da Boss wrote:PS. I am drinking.

But are you drinking Stoli?

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Da Boss wrote:Dude, homosexual behaviours occur in other animals.
How can you define "natural"?

I mean, what do I know, I'm just a biologist. But I can't.

Why thank you Irish brother.

**Da Boss**

Sadly no, canned guinness. It's barely drinkable but it's better than miller, my other option.

**Chowderhead**

o0shotty0o wrote:First of all when did i say i hate gays ?

Right about here:

"being gay is unatural and quite sick i also try to avoide gays."

And also there is no such thing as freedom , this is the animal kingdom the stongest survive and the weak perish , you americans are really brain dead beliveing in these false freedoms your gouverment force fed you since you were born, and since the stongest are the humans due to our intilect we have florished more than any other species ,
And also im on holiday in france i go back to uni in september

This is the shittiest thing I have ever heard. I laughed so hard listening to this. We have a new Warpcrafter, folks!

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence, If humens were born naturally gay thay wouldent be able to reproduse and hence perish.

Checkmate, Chowderhead

Er... Yeah, no. A Male and a Female parent can give birth to a homosexual baby. There has also been no correlation between homosexual parenting and their children being gay. None. So, you sir, are in checkmate. Fume all you want, you will still be in the wrong.

**lord commissar klimino**

Sckitzo wrote:When did the degrade into another argument about gay's and abortion?

And, if it's your freedom to not see two dudes going at it, what about a dude and a girl going at it? What about their freedom to do as they please? If you don't like something...don't look at it, the last thing we need is more government oversight on what's "good" for us, unless your into that big brother please take care of my Mr. Government because I'm incapable of living my own life crap.

not really. *shrug* i see good arguments against me and ones that are just crap.not gonna say which is which. so ill end my section of this political argument here.

gay marriage: marriage should be between a man and a women who are in love. nothing else. gay marriage goes against the basic principle of nature, religion, and what used to be the worlds morals.

abortion: its bad. the baby deserves to live.if you don't want it,give it to a orphanage. i actually think there should be a law were if someone gets raped and gets pregnant, they get financial aid for the months they cant work.once its gone,lets them give it to an orphanage if they really dont want it.

anyways.its been an insightful (if not headstrong on almost everyone's part,myself included) argument. see you in the next one. (note lack of orkmoticons.)

**Sckitzo**

That's assuming sex=procreation only, and there is instances of homosexuality in the animal kingdom, granted it does not fit into the whole theory of evolution thing, but it happens. I'll admit it doesn't make sense at all from that outlook, but hell, what are a few less kids running around, not like were going to run out of people anytime soon.

Strongest survive and weak perish? Maybe 300 years ago otherwise eugenics would be a daily term not a taboo phrase. I do wonder what false freedoms were brain dead for believing in? There are a lot of sheeple running around, but that's a global thing.

**o0shotty0o**

Da Boss wrote:Dude, homosexual behaviours occur in other animals.
How can you define "natural"?

I mean, what do I know, I'm just a biologist. But I can't.

Well i would sugest you change your career then , we are tacking about humans here not bugs & beatles lol you compare the two ?

**Karon**

o0shotty0o wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:I agree 100% with klimino , being gay is unatural and quite sick i also try to avoide gays. As for abortions ....how would you like to be killed before you were even born and not even given the chance to live. Even if you dont know your mother and father , if the sperm entered the egg even if its not concious the seed has been planted and removing it IS killing that person.And that is murder!
My opinion is becaus i was brougt up in a normal family a normal mother and father and normal brothers and sister and anyone who says other wise is wierd.

Sure. By normal, do you mean in a god fearing Christian house where Fox News was played via loudspeaker every hour of every day?

Because I think Mr. Cannerus would like to have a word with you.

No actully my religion is islam, are you going to insult me for being a musil in your next post ? I am not a strict muslim, i dont pray or go to mosques even though ide like to , i just dont have the time for it , in fact im caucasion my mother is english , its my father who is muslim , i get ready everyday and go out with frainds and go out with girls and party on the weekends so im sorry to burst you bubble mate but i am normal.

You know, that's fine. I applaud you for being a Muslim at such a time where the average Muslim is being stereotyped and such.

However, that does not excuse the rampant homophobia that you show. Why do you hate gay people? Because Romans and Greeks had no problem with gays. And seeing as how you are French, and your system of government is based on the US, which in turn is based on the Greeco-Roman systems, then you should be accepting of gays. Why, just today, I had a gay couple sit next to me during the Red Bull Cliff Diving event. They did no harm to me or my friends, they did not hit on me, and they did not have lewd acts in public. They were simply in love. What's wrong with love?

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence. If you hate gays (Not gay marriage, that is a different argument) then you hate the idea of love and the idea of freedom. I'm going to play that card.

Your move, Shotty!

First of all when did i say i hate gays ? And also there is no such thing as freedom , this is the animal kingdom the stongest survive and the weak perish , you americans are really brain dead beliveing in these false freedoms your gouverment force fed you since you were born, and since the stongest are the humans due to our intilect we have florished more than any other species ,
And also im on holiday in france i go back to uni in september.

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence, If humens were born naturally gay thay wouldent be able to reproduse and hence perish.

Checkmate, Chowderhead

You called them SICK and UNNATURAL.

HUMANS are born Straight or Gay, there is no "becoming" gay. Sexuality is about as much a “choice” as handedness is. If you are so blinded by your religion that you can't accept someone who likes a penis instead of a vagina, then something is seriously wrong with you.

We aren't Animals, so no, its not the Animal Kingdom.

If you avoid and condemn gays to be "sick and unnatural", you hate gay people, and you don't have much INTELLECT.

Checkmate my ass.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/scotts/bulgarians/nature-nurture/bailey-pillard.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2008/jun/17/are-we-born-gay-science-suggests-yes/

**Da Boss**

LCK: You really not interested in changing your mind on this one? It often hurts to learn we're wrong, but so do push ups, and both make you stronger in the end.

**MrDwhitey**

lord commissar klimino wrote:
basic principle of nature

It happens in nature. You know, with the furry animals? Not the furries though.

lord commissar klimino wrote:
religion

You live in a Theocracy? News to me. Please note what I said earlier though in regards to my point on marriage not giving rights due to something called "Seperation of Church and State".

lord commissar klimino wrote:
worlds morals

Morals change so much it's quite amusing. Did you know kids were good to go for sex long ago? And didn't Chowder mention earlier about how in Roman times it was a-ok to be gay? Those Spartans from 300 people like emulating? Pederests.

Anyway, this is always a headstrong one. It's amazing no-ones tried to tear out a throat. Good life to ya.

**Da Boss**

o0shotty0o wrote:
Da Boss wrote:Dude, homosexual behaviours occur in other animals.
How can you define "natural"?

I mean, what do I know, I'm just a biologist. But I can't.

Well i would sugest you change your career then , we are tacking about humans here not bugs & beatles lol you compare the two ?

Biology is the study of living things.
You sayin' humans ain't alive? You some kinda zombie, boy?
Cos I don't hold with your type.

**Chowderhead**

o0shotty0o wrote:
Da Boss wrote:Dude, homosexual behaviours occur in other animals.
How can you define "natural"?

I mean, what do I know, I'm just a biologist. But I can't.

Well i would sugest you change your career then , we are tacking about humans here not bugs & beatles lol you compare the two ?

Really? Because Dolphins, Ducks, lizards, lions, sheep, apes and vultures have homosexual relationships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

**Sckitzo**

lord commissar klimino wrote:
Sckitzo wrote:When did the degrade into another argument about gay's and abortion?

And, if it's your freedom to not see two dudes going at it, what about a dude and a girl going at it? What about their freedom to do as they please? If you don't like something...don't look at it, the last thing we need is more government oversight on what's "good" for us, unless your into that big brother please take care of my Mr. Government because I'm incapable of living my own life crap.

not really. *shrug* i see good arguments against me and ones that are just crap.not gonna say which is which. so ill end my section of this political argument here.

gay marriage: marriage should be between a man and a women who are in love. nothing else. gay marriage goes against the basic principle of nature, religion, and what used to be the worlds morals.

abortion: its bad. the baby deserves to live.if you don't want it,give it to a orphanage. i actually think there should be a law were if someone gets raped and gets pregnant, they get financial aid for the months they cant work.once its gone,lets them give it to an orphanage if they really dont want it.

anyways.its been an insightful (if not headstrong on almost everyone's part,myself included) argument. see you in the next one. (note lack of orkmoticons.)

Your Morals, not mine, not even one the US shares let alone a global one. And is the term Marriage that bugs you? If they removed the legal benefits from marriage then this wouldn't be such a issue.

I honestly don't care if gay's marry or not, I just don't think it's the governments place to decide what's moral and what's not as long as someone exercising their freedom does not prevent you from exercising yours.

**MrDwhitey**

Da Boss wrote:You sayin' humans ain't alive? You some kinda zombie, boy?
Cos I don't hold with your type.

I wont stand for your bigotry!

Quick, put one of these on and you may be spared.

May.

**o0shotty0o**

Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:First of all when did i say i hate gays ?

Right about here:
"being gay is unatural and quite sick i also try to avoide gays."

And also there is no such thing as freedom , this is the animal kingdom the stongest survive and the weak perish , you americans are really brain dead beliveing in these false freedoms your gouverment force fed you since you were born, and since the stongest are the humans due to our intilect we have florished more than any other species ,
And also im on holiday in france i go back to uni in september

This is the shittiest thing I have ever heard. I laughed so hard listening to this. We have a new Warpcrafter, folks!

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence, If humens were born naturally gay thay wouldent be able to reproduse and hence perish.

Checkmate, Chowderhead

Er... Yeah, no. A Male and a Female parent can give birth to a homosexual baby. There has also been no correlation between homosexual parenting and their children being gay. None. So, you sir, are in checkmate. Fume all you want, you will still be in the wrong.

Actully im right and your wrong and you will never be right unless you grow a brain and i already checkmated you and won the game , but i supose you must be a swore loser

You want a rematch ? bring it on baby ..... ill eat you up and spit you out just like ive been doing .

On a side note your becoming quite my nemesis on these forums , exept your the bad guy that keeps getting destroyed but keeps on coming back for more.

**MrDwhitey**

Hey, weren't you the one who got annihilated in that painting thread?

Cool story.

**dogma**

Da Boss wrote:LCK: You really not interested in changing your mind on this one? It often hurts to learn we're wrong, but so do push ups, and both make you stronger in the end.

Props.

**Karon**

Respond to my post immediately, or you "lost", o0shotty0o.

**Sckitzo**

Ok o0shotty0o, English may not be your primary language, but please at least run it through a spellcheck first, your posts border on unreadable. Though I'm fairly convinced your just trolling Chowder at this point.

**Da Boss**

Shotty: I think the lady doth protest too much.
Is all I'm sayin'.

Edit: Dogma: Drunk OT is so much more fun than normal OT.

**Karon**

Sckitzo wrote:Ok o0shotty0o, English may not be your primary language, but please at least run it through a spellcheck first, your posts border on unreadable. Though I'm fairly convinced your just trolling Chowder at this point.

If he isn't trolling, this is a whole new level of

that I've never encountered beforehand.

I really wish I could meet you in person, shotty, I really do.

**purplefood**

Don't listen to him Chowderhead! He's just jealous of our love!

**o0shotty0o**

Karon wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
o0shotty0o wrote:I agree 100% with klimino , being gay is unatural and quite sick i also try to avoide gays. As for abortions ....how would you like to be killed before you were even born and not even given the chance to live. Even if you dont know your mother and father , if the sperm entered the egg even if its not concious the seed has been planted and removing it IS killing that person.And that is murder!
My opinion is becaus i was brougt up in a normal family a normal mother and father and normal brothers and sister and anyone who says other wise is wierd.

Sure. By normal, do you mean in a god fearing Christian house where Fox News was played via loudspeaker every hour of every day?

Because I think Mr. Cannerus would like to have a word with you.

No actully my religion is islam, are you going to insult me for being a musil in your next post ? I am not a strict muslim, i dont pray or go to mosques even though ide like to , i just dont have the time for it , in fact im caucasion my mother is english , its my father who is muslim , i get ready everyday and go out with frainds and go out with girls and party on the weekends so im sorry to burst you bubble mate but i am normal.

You know, that's fine. I applaud you for being a Muslim at such a time where the average Muslim is being stereotyped and such.

However, that does not excuse the rampant homophobia that you show. Why do you hate gay people? Because Romans and Greeks had no problem with gays. And seeing as how you are French, and your system of government is based on the US, which in turn is based on the Greeco-Roman systems, then you should be accepting of gays. Why, just today, I had a gay couple sit next to me during the Red Bull Cliff Diving event. They did no harm to me or my friends, they did not hit on me, and they did not have lewd acts in public. They were simply in love. What's wrong with love?

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence. If you hate gays (Not gay marriage, that is a different argument) then you hate the idea of love and the idea of freedom. I'm going to play that card.

Your move, Shotty!

First of all when did i say i hate gays ? And also there is no such thing as freedom , this is the animal kingdom the stongest survive and the weak perish , you americans are really brain dead beliveing in these false freedoms your gouverment force fed you since you were born, and since the stongest are the humans due to our intilect we have florished more than any other species ,
And also im on holiday in france i go back to uni in september.

I guess my argument boils down to a sentence, If humens were born naturally gay thay wouldent be able to reproduse and hence perish.

Checkmate, Chowderhead

You called them SICK and UNNATURAL.

HUMANS are born Straight or Gay, there is no "becoming" gay. Sexuality is about as much a “choice” as handedness is. If you are so blinded by your religion that you can't accept someone who likes a penis instead of a vagina, then something is seriously wrong with you.

We aren't Animals, so no, its not the Animal Kingdom.

If you avoid and condemn gays to be "sick and unnatural", you hate gay people, and you don't have much INTELLECT.

Checkmate my ass.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/scotts/bulgarians/nature-nurture/bailey-pillard.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2008/jun/17/are-we-born-gay-science-suggests-yes/

Ok you asked for it

1) Say a man puts a dildo up his bottom and it gets stuck and he has to go to hospital and need an operation to remove it yes ? well....that would be sick and unatural but do i hate the guy ? NO

**Sckitzo**

What if it's a straight dude that does it? Or a straight chick? Is it still sick and unnatural?

**RatBot**

I do find it quite interesting that all these "guvmint better not interfere with muh personal bzns" types are intensely interested in government preventing two consenting adults from getting married.