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Open for all means open for all pc users. I'm guessing the console version isn't ready.

And EODs and MAWs are unlocks for engi and recon.

EDIT:

xbox owners are going to love this:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1198976p1.html

paulson games wrote:With PS3 they don't show on radar when blasting away with unsurpressed weapons or even when shooting the RPGs. Could be system specific glitchyness.

You have to have the enemy in your sights and hit the "select" button to "spot" them

Aaaaand Caspain Border still isn't up on PS3 :/

I've spent 35 hours of my life playing it on the 360, and even for all the glitches and COD kids, its gorgeous.

All the guns seem very balanced(with the exception of the UMP and PP-2000) and the classes are equally powerful. The advancement system is great and feels very rewarding when you actually level up or unlock a new weapon or attachment.

If i can only have one game this year it would be BF 3(with the exception of Skyrim)

I don't get why people call UMP and PP overpowered when they can only engage enemies effectively at short range and they can easily lose to a shotty. Both UMP and PP have heavy recoil when used in full auto and used in single shot mode they need 6-8 shots to kill in medium and long range)

I fell that MOD 0 and SVD are OP. They kill you with 2 shots (1 for head) at any range. After you unlock a non glare scope and silencer both guns basically become instagibs from unreal tournament.

I have never died to an UMP or PP at medium range but MOD 0 and SVD can kick my ass in a shotty fight, me using a shotty.

Just rape your way to enemy spawn, place beacon and continue raping if you die (happens when you run out of ammo) you just spawn on your beacon and start raping again.

Hmmmmm imagine dying from two 7.62 rounds to the chest.

Hmmmmm imagine playing an arcade game.

Imagine not liking a FPS because you die when you get shot.I fail to see the issue.

OZ-Guardsman wrote:Imagine not liking a FPS because you die when you get shot.I fail to see the issue.

I have to admit, I really don't like FPSs where you die in 1 or 2 shots. More of a 4 to body 1 to head kind of guy.

Yeah, having played pc and xbox both now, they seem to be different animals

total lack of GUI on the PC for some reason (maybe eyefinity issue, maybe just not there(?) as expected, people are so accurate that everyone uses the ump or semi auto's and maul everyone.

xbox is buggy, you do get radar blips when people fire unsuppressed weapons, and people ramboing around, but surprisingly there's more teamwork because of build in voice chat (and associated annoyances)

Imagine if you could win in a Battlefield game by only killing people.

Oh wait there is TDM in BF3.


And lack of GUI in PC is eyefinity issue.You cant see minimap,health or ammo count can you Grundz?

Im liking the demo, i use the rocket class.

-shoots rocket
-switch to grenade
-run to survivor and knife them

because i suck at aiming with guns xD

Debating now whether to get it or not since i get $15 off for pre order ( expires in 10 hours )

Xbox Screenshots:
http://ruliweb.daum.net/news/view/37351.daum

Hm, beta's over before I could play it. So I guess I'll wait for a demo. No demo? Meh, probably won't get it.

Looks nice, hopefully it'll play just as well.

Melissia wrote:Hm, beta's over before I could play it. So I guess I'll wait for a demo. No demo? Meh, probably won't get it.

You won't get it because there's no demo?

I mean, I kinda understand where you're coming from here, but plenty of games don't have a demo. Doesn't mean they'll be bad. I understand not wanting to take a risk, but a demo only gives you part of the game. IF you don't like that one part, you still might like the rest of the game. BF3 looks amazing, and from the trailers, well... skydiving in multiplayer is something pretty awesome.

Unfortunately for me, my PS3 broke right before the gaming release season. Hopefully it'll be fixed by Tuesday...

And?

I'm not saying it'll be bad. Just that I don't really care to buy ANOTHER modern-setting shooter . There's bajillions of them out there. Haven't seen anything impressive about this one.

Melissia wrote:And?

I'm not saying it'll be bad. Just that I don't really care to buy ANOTHER modern-setting shooter . There's bajillions of them out there. Haven't seen anything impressive about this one.

One thing that you may like is the fact that you can no longer spawn camp for helis or jets, you spawn into the cockpit of the vehicle much like in Homefront. This is a good concept and will cut down on spawn camping by your team for sure.

Taking note from Battlefield: Vietnam, helicopters are vulnerable to heavy machine gun fire.

Knives take two hits to kill from the front, and one from the back.

There is a camo system that allows a player to change the camo of their character and this camo is unlocked via leveling and changes for the Americans and the Russians.

The campaign looks interesting, short, but interesting.

Biggest difference between the PC and console versions is the size of battle. PC version has 64 players and almost double the amount of vehicles per match than the console version, for example if the console version has one jet per team the PC version has two per team.

Each side has 1 main battle tank(M1 Abrams and T-90), the US has two forms of IFV(One land and the other is amphibious, the amphibious one doesn't get bonuses from IFV upgrades), each side has one AA tank, one Fighter, one ground attack plane, one attack chopper, one scout chopper, one transport chopper, and so on.

Overall the game looks fun and in the attack/defend modes the defender usually has more stationary weapons compared to mobile ones.

Best Buy seems to have the best pre order.

The Gamestop pre order will come out for free by the end of the year as announced by DICE, the amazon pre order is just a series of dog tags, and the Best Buy preorder is 8 multiplayer skins.


Just saw this as well, so even if you want to get MW3 in the UK, get BF3 first and give it a shot. Then make the deadline and trade it in for MW3 for about a dollar.

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-industry-in-san-francisco/gamestop-offering-modern-warfare-3-for-battlefield-3-trade

The number one video game retailer, Gamestop is offering up Modern Warfare 3 for just 99p on the condition that you trade in your newly purchased Battlefield 3. Not a bad deal at all, certainly nothing surprising, as game trade-in deals like this aren’t new, but we’re talking about the two biggest shooters of 2011. Rivalry aside, as with any exchange there is a catch so pay attention:

Melissia wrote:And?

I'm not saying it'll be bad. Just that I don't really care to buy ANOTHER modern-setting shooter . There's bajillions of them out there. Haven't seen anything impressive about this one.

There are a bajillion out there but none like BF3.

This one is a beast in itseflf

Melissa- check out the Youtube channel fro BF3. It might change your mind.

Though I do understand your sentiments, BF3 looks like something new in this line of FPS games.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Melissa- check out the Youtube channel fro BF3. It might change your mind.

Though I do understand your sentiments, BF3 looks like something new in this line of FPS games.

Its a relatively redone version of the game and it fixes the reaction knifing and tries to force people to use the guns more often.

And the more destructable, the more realistic.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:And the more destructable, the more realistic.

Depending on the things being destroyed, a car being torn to shreds by a handgun is ridiculous but a wooden box being shot to bits with a handgun is fine.

Also, if my pistol can cause a good chunk of cement to break from a wall then that's not a good thing.

You have a point thee sir. I should have worded that more carefully.

I think the amount of diversity is what makes it such a great looking game. Oh well- we'll find out on Tuesday!

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Melissa- check out the Youtube channel fro BF3. It might change your mind.

It doesn't.

It's pretty generic to me. Like other modern-setting FPS games but with better graphics, but the same gameplay styles and little to no customization as always. It's really the customization part that's annoying me. They've had HOW many boring generic modern shooters by now and they STILL don't have any real customization? I'm not sure if they're just lazy or unimaginative...

Then agan, we're unlikely to get something like R6V2's customization for a modern warfare type shooter any time soon...

More's the pity... with that kind of graphics and animation it'd look even better with more customization...


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As an aside, I'm not really trying to bash it. Just saying that I'm kinda tired of the genre and wish they'd start advancing it beyond what tis' been for the past five years. And they're really not doing that... they're only refining the old, not adding something different.

I'm three quarters of the way through the campaign (got a prestreet copy of the game) and it isn't that great, although the gameplay is phenomenal. Multiplayer should be epic.

@Melissia Could you elaborate what you mean with no real customization.

And I thought you didn't like BF3 because you can't play as a woman (as far as I know) and it isn't scifi.

illuknisaa wrote:@Melissia Could you elaborate what you mean with no real customization.

And I thought you didn't like BF3 because you can't play as a woman (as far as I know) and it isn't scifi.

You play as a woman pilot in one mission

And customization in R6 games was annoying, because it meant a ton of people running around wearing pink and do-rags, which looked ridiculous. If I'm playing a game that strives to be more realistic than other shooters in the genre, I want it to look realistic too.

illuknisaa wrote:@Melissia Could you elaborate what you mean with no real customization.

And I thought you didn't like BF3 because you can't play as a woman (as far as I know) and it isn't scifi.

I've repeatedly and regularly said that while I've liked many games that had only male main characters, one which doesn't have a female main character or the option to play as one just isn't as good as one that does have it. It's the same as with buggy or relatively bug-free games. A game that has more bugs is not as good as one that has fewer bugs. Sure, there's some buggy games taht are awesome (V:TM Bloodlines), but for the most part this is true.

I'm not even gonna try to guess why people don't understand this, some of them seeming to refuse to understand it no matter how often I've tried to explain it. My guesses would probably break the first rule of DakkaDakka.

But basically, BF3's focus is on skills and weapon customization. Which is fine. but other games do that too, so it's really from what I can tell nothing special, and other games have probably done it better.

And customization in R6 games was annoying, because it meant a ton of people running around wearing pink and do-rags, which looked ridiculous.

That's their prerogative. It's still a better customization system than the BF, CoD, and MoH series have produced. This was one of the huge draws that APB had for me, and one of the legion of areas that Crimecraft epically failed (if you made your clothes instead of paying for them with IRL money on top of the monthly, your clothes all looked lke everyone else's and the women looked like whores). City of Heroes/Villains will always be a billion times better than WoW because of its unprecedented levels of customization by itself-- and Champions Online was quite similar in that regards, though a bit more limited in variety.

The level of customization is a very important for me in any game, the ones which have more of it are, almost by default, better than ones with none. Those that have none have to make up for its lack somewhere else (and usually don't).

Battlefield's customization focuses on things that are useful to achieve your goal and having pink uniform while hiding in a bush isn't all that useful. And battlefield isn't suppose to an rpg.

And battlefield doesn't really focus on skill or weapon customization rather on teamplay. A squad of noobs working together is always more dangerous than 4 lonewolf uber pro dudes. Weapon customization merely allows you to tackle difficulties with more varied tactics.

illuknisaa wrote:Battlefield's customization focuses on things that are useful to achieve your goal and having pink uniform while hiding in a bush isn't all that useful.

So? Let them.. Not my problem that they picked an anti-camo, makes 'em easier to snipe for me so I'm fine with that.

illuknisaa wrote:And battlefield isn't suppose to an rpg.

And that matters why oh wait no it doesn't. Many RPGs also don't have much choice or customization (almost invariably to their detriment).

illuknisaa wrote:And battlefield doesn't really focus on skill or weapon customization rather on teamplay.

... context, dude. I was talking about its customization.

Duh.