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Leonus Cohol wrote:I now see why some people like it.

And that's all we want.

Bronies don't exist to shove the show down people's throats. We just want people to understand that we like it. Nothing more.

I think people are to into their assigned gender roles (I'm learning about this in english 101)

Some people like it, others don't...

I think this thread is done, before it turns into a troll feeding ground...

I say to do it because without watching them, you have no connection to the characters and don't know the basics...

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:Dude MLP is just plain stupid, I don't like the show at all.

Why do you think it is stupid?

Because its just a basic premise shared by a lot of freaking kids shows. Friendship is magic, seriously they just gave the premise out along with the title in the first place. Then they have constant struggles that test their friendship and they end up remaining BFFs, its seriously oriented towards girls by trying to have characters that they can relate to. Those characters are similar to young children because they are also struggling to determine who is their friend and who is not, it also plays into the psychological aspect of growing up. They try to make as many friends as possible, even with people they've just met or people they're helping or even fighting, but in the end its just reflecting how younger children tend to get as many friends as possible over getting true friends. However girls have their own inner circle of friends which is represented by the tight knit group of ponies who remain friends no matter whatever happens. Its like the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants in my opinion.

halonachos wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:Dude MLP is just plain stupid, I don't like the show at all.

Why do you think it is stupid?

Because its just a basic premise shared by a lot of freaking kids shows. Friendship is magic, seriously they just gave the premise out along with the title in the first place. Then they have constant struggles that test their friendship and they end up remaining BFFs, its seriously oriented towards girls by trying to have characters that they can relate to. Those characters are similar to young children because they are also struggling to determine who is their friend and who is not, it also plays into the psychological aspect of growing up. They try to make as many friends as possible, even with people they've just met or people they're helping or even fighting, but in the end its just reflecting how younger children tend to get as many friends as possible over getting true friends. However girls have their own inner circle of friends which is represented by the tight knit group of ponies who remain friends no matter whatever happens. Its like the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants in my opinion.

But how is any of that stupid?

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:Dude MLP is just plain stupid, I don't like the show at all.

Why do you think it is stupid?

Because its just a basic premise shared by a lot of freaking kids shows. Friendship is magic, seriously they just gave the premise out along with the title in the first place. Then they have constant struggles that test their friendship and they end up remaining BFFs, its seriously oriented towards girls by trying to have characters that they can relate to. Those characters are similar to young children because they are also struggling to determine who is their friend and who is not, it also plays into the psychological aspect of growing up. They try to make as many friends as possible, even with people they've just met or people they're helping or even fighting, but in the end its just reflecting how younger children tend to get as many friends as possible over getting true friends. However girls have their own inner circle of friends which is represented by the tight knit group of ponies who remain friends no matter whatever happens. Its like the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants in my opinion.

But how is any of that stupid?

Because its not grim dark!

How are the 6 protagonists not true friends?

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:Dude MLP is just plain stupid, I don't like the show at all.

Why do you think it is stupid?

Because its just a basic premise shared by a lot of freaking kids shows. Friendship is magic, seriously they just gave the premise out along with the title in the first place. Then they have constant struggles that test their friendship and they end up remaining BFFs, its seriously oriented towards girls by trying to have characters that they can relate to. Those characters are similar to young children because they are also struggling to determine who is their friend and who is not, it also plays into the psychological aspect of growing up. They try to make as many friends as possible, even with people they've just met or people they're helping or even fighting, but in the end its just reflecting how younger children tend to get as many friends as possible over getting true friends. However girls have their own inner circle of friends which is represented by the tight knit group of ponies who remain friends no matter whatever happens. Its like the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants in my opinion.

But how is any of that stupid?

Because I am not a little girl so it doesn't grab my attention, hell Phineas and Ferb has better slapstick and one-liners than MLP.


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Alfndrate wrote:How are the 6 protagonists not true friends?

Because you didn't read my post fully.

halonachos wrote:
Because I am not a little girl so it doesn't grab my attention

But how does that make it stupid?

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:
Because I am not a little girl so it doesn't grab my attention

But how does that make it stupid?

hes just trolling. leave him be.

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:
Because I am not a little girl so it doesn't grab my attention

But how does that make it stupid?

How does that make it a fantastic show to watch? What factors do you have that can prove that it is a good show.

The show is basic and I find nothing that can redeem it in my own opinion. The story has been done over and over and over by other girl's shows so there's nothing new there. The characters are incredibly typical archetypes and that has no interest for me. In fact I can't find anything I truly enjoy about the show because its all been offered elsewhere and in better formats. Xiaolin Showdown was the same way, but the main difference between Xiaolin Showdown and My Little Pony is the fact that I enjoyed Xiaolin Showdown when I was a kid and the kind of show was still relatively new to me, I'm a grown man now so MLP doesn't impress me in the slightest and that's what makes the show stupid to me.

halonachos wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:
Because I am not a little girl so it doesn't grab my attention

But how does that make it stupid?

How does that make it a fantastic show to watch? What factors do you have that can prove that it is a good show.

The show is basic and I find nothing that can redeem it in my own opinion. The story has been done over and over and over by other girl's shows so there's nothing new there. The characters are incredibly typical archetypes and that has no interest for me. In fact I can't find anything I truly enjoy about the show because its all been offered elsewhere and in better formats. Xiaolin Showdown was the same way, but the main difference between Xiaolin Showdown and My Little Pony is the fact that I enjoyed Xiaolin Showdown when I was a kid and the kind of show was still relatively new to me, I'm a grown man now so MLP doesn't impress me in the slightest and that's what makes the show stupid to me.

Wait, just because I don't think it's stupid, I automatically think it's fantastic? Slow down, man. No need to speak for me, I can do that just fine without you shoving words down my throat.

For the record, I never said it was fantastic. You've also provided no argument whatsoever for the show being stupid.

Your opinion is your own.

Mine is mine. I love the show.

You're splitting hairs between friends and acquaintances.

The protagonists in the show all have friends and family. Twilight Sparkle and the other 5 met (as school children do) under circumstances that they usually don't want to (such as going to a new place like school). There, you're introduced to several people, you meet some, you like some, you dislike some. Not all of these people have to be exactly like you.

You love the show, why?

You haven't given me any evidence saying why you love it, because I would assume that if you love the show you find some positive qualities about it.

I find the show stupid because everything about it has been done in another girls show. I remember this show, Winx Club, that is the same exact show as My Little Pony. I don't find the shows entertaining, I find their humor lacking and the action is meh. That's why I believe its stupid.

The never ending story of a circle of giggling girls saving the world does not appeal to me. I didn't even like Sailor Moon and I think that show had better action scenes in it.

Besides, the character color pallets are similar between Winx and MLP.

halonachos wrote:You love the show, why?

So, you're admitting that you haven't read any of this thread? I've posted the answer to that question twice.

halonachos wrote:
You haven't given me any evidence saying why you love it, because I would assume that if you love the show you find some positive qualities about it.

No, really. Twice.

halonachos wrote: I remember this show, Winx Club, that is the same exact show as My Little Pony.

Same exact show? Uh, no, it is not.

halonachos wrote:
I don't find the shows entertaining, I find their humor lacking and the action is meh. That's why I believe its stupid.

I don't like X, therefore X is stupid is not a valid logical argument.

good animation, in depth characters, good little stories.

Winx Club and Sailor Moon aren't like My Little Pony?

Same archetypes based on character, they all manage to have special powers, they all have about six friends, and they all fight something evil that's trying to change their world. Yes completely different I guess.

I don't find love the show, I find it enjoyable because of the humor, gags, and the animation style... While the overabundance of pastels is grating at some points, the effects in the show are very good for a show designed at little girls.

There are also allusions to other works and myths, namely "ursa minor and ursa major" the artistic style for those two bears was awesome! Two animals based on the constellations. They have an artistic style to them, where they have an outline and made up of points of light, simulating the idea of stars.

Its the little things that make the show enjoyable. Now will I sit in a thread online and discuss how Hasbro is simply doing recolors on their toys to make money? no, but I will enjoy the show as long as it remains so.

halonachos wrote:Winx Club and Sailor Moon aren't like My Little Pony?

Same archetypes based on character, they all manage to have special powers, they all have about six friends, and they all fight something evil that's trying to change their world. Yes completely different I guess.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FiveManBand

Western Animation had to be divided into two sections.

halonachos wrote:Winx Club and Sailor Moon aren't like My Little Pony?

Same archetypes based on character, they all manage to have special powers, they all have about six friends, and they all fight something evil that's trying to change their world. Yes completely different I guess.

yup.troll. but ill feed the poor sap anyways.

they only have a main evil during the beginning of the seasons. and everything is 6 ill admit.

special powers? not really...2 have magic,2 have wings, 3 have squat. they have the elements,but again,only in the beginning are they used.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

halonachos wrote:Winx Club and Sailor Moon aren't like My Little Pony?

Same archetypes based on character, they all manage to have special powers, they all have about six friends, and they all fight something evil that's trying to change their world. Yes completely different I guess.

yup.troll. but ill feed the poor sap anyways.

they only have a main evil during the beginning of the seasons. and everything is 6 ill admit.

special powers? not really...2 have magic,2 have wings, 3 have squat. they have the elements,but again,only in the beginning are they used.

So I am a troll because I find the show lacking in any redeeming qualities? No, I just find the show below my standards of entertainment, the slapstick stuff isn't too funny because I'm used to Abbot and Costello providing far better humor in that method. I don't like the show and I think its stupid. I can understand why a lot of other people do, that reason being you get called a troll on the internet if you don't.

They have a constant presence of some evil force, and they have elemental powers and their personalities are pre-set archetypes. Just like Sailor Moon.

halonachos wrote:
They have a constant presence of some evil force, and they have elemental powers and their personalities are pre-set archetypes. Just like Sailor Moon.

Just like dozens, if not hundreds of other stories?

If anything, you're a troll because you've latched onto a single talking point that doesn't even make sense.

halonachos wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

halonachos wrote:Winx Club and Sailor Moon aren't like My Little Pony?

Same archetypes based on character, they all manage to have special powers, they all have about six friends, and they all fight something evil that's trying to change their world. Yes completely different I guess.

yup.troll. but ill feed the poor sap anyways.

they only have a main evil during the beginning of the seasons. and everything is 6 ill admit.

special powers? not really...2 have magic,2 have wings, 3 have squat. they have the elements,but again,only in the beginning are they used.

So I am a troll because I find the show lacking in any redeeming qualities? No, I just find the show below my standards of entertainment, the slapstick stuff isn't too funny because I'm used to Abbot and Costello providing far better humor in that method. I don't like the show and I think its stupid. I can understand why a lot of other people do, that reason being you get called a troll on the internet if you don't.

nope. its how you argue that you dont like it. i understand not liking it,but its your way of saying so thats troll like and just fething annoying.

"blarg,this is stupid,this is too. stupid,stupid,stupid everything."

you dont like ponies? i understand. dont like the story? ok,your choice. the characters been done? eh, ill let it slide,but ive never seen pinkie before.

its how you say its stupid,make you stupid.

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:
They have a constant presence of some evil force, and they have elemental powers and their personalities are pre-set archetypes. Just like Sailor Moon.

Just like dozens, if not hundreds of other stories?

If anything, you're a troll because you've latched onto a single talking point that doesn't even make sense.

A point that doesn't make sense? I don't like the show because its humor is stupid slapstick schtick. I don't like the show because its just annoying to look at, everything is way too colorful in my opinion. The story does not pique any interest I have and I cannot relate to the characters. If I cannot tolerate any of these factors then I cannot tolerate the show, those are pretty simple facts that explain my position well enough. I am not going to say I love a show just because the internet thinks its the next big thing since sliced bread. The show was created for young girls and I am well out of that demographic, the fact that I don't like the show is almost a given.

Also LCK, do you think that you have room for calling someone stupid when in fact you have made bigoted remarks before?

halonachos wrote:I don't like the show because its humor is stupid slapstick schtick. I don't like the show because its just annoying to look at, everything is way too colorful in my opinion. The story does not pique any interest I have and I cannot relate to the characters. If I cannot tolerate any of these factors then I cannot tolerate the show, those are pretty simple facts that explain my position well enough.

Good. I'm fine with that. Your opinion is your own. Now, if you could leave it at that, and not...

I am not going to say I love a show just because the internet thinks its the next big thing since sliced bread.

Or you could skip straight to the insults.

Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:I don't like the show because its humor is stupid slapstick schtick. I don't like the show because its just annoying to look at, everything is way too colorful in my opinion. The story does not pique any interest I have and I cannot relate to the characters. If I cannot tolerate any of these factors then I cannot tolerate the show, those are pretty simple facts that explain my position well enough.

Good. I'm fine with that. Your opinion is your own. Now, if you could leave it at that, and not...

I am not going to say I love a show just because the internet thinks its the next big thing since sliced bread.

Or you could skip straight to the insults.

That's not an insult, that's saying I refuse to conform my beliefs to that of those on the internet. If I enjoy a show I enjoy a show, if I hate it and think its stupid I hate it and think its stupid. Its kind of like how I don't like Modern Warfare but there are thousands out there who do, I just don't like the thing.

halonachos wrote:Also LCK, do you think that you have room for calling someone stupid when in fact you have made bigoted remarks before?

yup. i have. does that mean you arnt also? no,you still are. if anything it means i know what im talking about,having done it myself i know how it works.

however,it also means my words are tainted. but guess what? im not the only one calling you out. ive seen this stuff before,and i know your argument is flat. ive heard better,more belivable reason to not like the show,and have left them alone. but you? no,your just either arrogant, or a troll.

halonachos wrote:That's not an insult, that's saying I refuse to conform my beliefs to that of those on the internet. If I enjoy a show I enjoy a show, if I hate it and think its stupid I hate it and think its stupid. Its kind of like how I don't like Modern Warfare but there are thousands out there who do, I just don't like the thing.

It comes across as very "unlike you, I don't let the internet think for me."

Anyway, you don't like the show. I get that.

So why did you come here and post about it? The OP already had his questions answered by the people he was asking.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

halonachos wrote:Also LCK, do you think that you have room for calling someone stupid when in fact you have made bigoted remarks before?

yup. i have. does that mean you arnt also? no,you still are. if anything it means i know what im talking about,having done it myself i know how it works.

however,it also means my words are tainted. but guess what? im not the only one calling you out. ive seen this stuff before,and i know your argument is flat. ive heard better,more belivable reason to not like the show,and have left them alone. but you? no,your just either arrogant, or a troll.

You sir are angry that I happen to not like the same thing you do for my own personal reasons. You love a little kid's show okay, I think the show's stupid and I have yet see you say anything that would make me think otherwise besides "You're a troll because you don't like what I like.".


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Nerivant wrote:

halonachos wrote:That's not an insult, that's saying I refuse to conform my beliefs to that of those on the internet. If I enjoy a show I enjoy a show, if I hate it and think its stupid I hate it and think its stupid. Its kind of like how I don't like Modern Warfare but there are thousands out there who do, I just don't like the thing.

It comes across as very "unlike you, I don't let the internet think for me."

Anyway, you don't like the show. I get that.

So why did you come here and post about it? The OP already had his questions answered by the people he was asking.

Because he was asking everyone about why people like the show, I responded by saying that I don't and gave reasons why. It helps him get a view of different aspects of the show and the dakka community's thoughts on the show. Now if I was really a troll then I would go to the MLP thread in the OT Forum and reply that the show is stupid and banal, but that's not a thread asking me my opinion. That's a thread dedicated to what you call "bronies".

halonachos wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

halonachos wrote:Also LCK, do you think that you have room for calling someone stupid when in fact you have made bigoted remarks before?

yup. i have. does that mean you arnt also? no,you still are. if anything it means i know what im talking about,having done it myself i know how it works.

however,it also means my words are tainted. but guess what? im not the only one calling you out. ive seen this stuff before,and i know your argument is flat. ive heard better,more belivable reason to not like the show,and have left them alone. but you? no,your just either arrogant, or a troll.

You sir are angry that I happen to not like the same thing you do for my own personal reasons. You love a little kid's show okay, I think the show's stupid and I have yet see you say anything that would make me think otherwise besides "You're a troll because you don't like what I like.".

angry? oh no sir,im laughing quite alot.

another thing,your leaving out details just to improve your argument. ive said twice now im ok with people not liking the show,its how YOU are saying you dont like it that makes you arrogant.

so good for you,your as stubborn as me. almost.