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Have you ever seen a mushroom sprout out of a rock? No? well that's because there is no nutrients in ROCKS.

Yes. Yes. Yes there are. Infact... theories suggest that life on Earth my have come from space rocks.

Oh my, no! Nobody is suggesting that I, as an ork player, could take a hammerhead and play it as a hammerhead. Instead, I can take it and play it as a looted wagon, battle wagon, or trukk.

-cgmckenzie

cgmckenzie wrote:Oh my, no! Nobody is suggesting that I, as an ork player, could take a hammerhead and play it as a hammerhead. Instead, I can take it and play it as a looted wagon, battle wagon, or trukk.

-cgmckenzie

Thanks for clarifying that for me

ITT: Mek eksplaynin' da werkinz to da trukkboy

haendas wrote:So this is effectively a fluff/modeling debate? Nobody is claiming that orks can loot a hammerhead and fire S10 railguns, correct?

Correct, Orks see other tech as whimpy and misguided but that would mean they could gut that hammerhead into a Deff-Rolling Battle Wagon using dat long gun thingy as a boarding plank! That weird hova' tech wiff dem rail gunz business doesn't make a big enough boom for der liking! Though why not put in explosive shells in? yeah ya lose da punch but gain da POW muahahah so many choices so little time before da next fight!

So yeah basically just saying orks could be crafty enough to take anyone's tech even eldar, necron, tau, marine ect and use it for nefarious orky purposes.

haendas wrote:So this is effectively a fluff/modeling debate? Nobody is claiming that orks can loot a hammerhead and fire S10 railguns, correct?

At least not without a 50% chance of exploding and killing half our army

Skull snatcher wrote:Ok I think Orks can loot anything but some one I know aka a cron Player thinks that thay can't what do you think on it

Anything they have iq and physiology to use. Most advanced tau weaponry? Does it have a trigger? If so yes.

Melle weapon like the SoulSpear? Genetic encoder the mechanicus had grokkall chance in the void of breaking? No.

It's like the "bandaids cure everything" rule, spotty at best but best to not question and just go with the rule of cool.

@NL_Cirrus

You say that orks can't spawn out of rock but I beg to differ. You assume orks are similiar beings to other creatures but we already know for a fact that orks have some sort of link to the warp and warp is full of energy. I believe that orks don't need nutrients to grow like humans, tau etc. Because energy can be formed out of materia and vice versa, orks most likely draw the nessesary energy from the warp in a similiar manner psyker draw power for their "spells" . Also the fact old ones were masters of warp supports this theory.

Back to topic
This has already been said but loot is not something you use as is but might use as a conversion part for something else. Ork might not use dreadnaught as a dreadnought but as ammunition for his new catapult.

illuknisaa wrote:@NL_Cirrus

You say that orks can't spawn out of rock but I beg to differ. You assume orks are similiar beings to other creatures but we already know for a fact that orks have some sort of link to the warp and warp is full of energy. I believe that orks don't need nutrients to grow like humans, tau etc. Because energy can be formed out of materia and vice versa, orks most likely draw the nessesary energy from the warp in a similiar manner psyker draw power for their "spells" . Also the fact old ones were masters of warp supports this theory.

Back to topic
This has already been said but loot is not something you use as is but might use as a conversion part for something else. Ork might not use dreadnaught as a dreadnought but as ammunition for his new catapult.

Well the other ork players seem to disagree with you and are -if I'm interpreting right- saying only weird boyz have any more connection to the warp then say normal humans.

No, orks all have an strong connection to the warp, only weirdboyz can actively use psychic powers, though.

Each boy draws a small amount of WAAAGH! energy from the warp, not enough for it to do anything by itself, but when a large number of boyz(read: more than 11) are present anywhere, the power grows to massive levels.

Weirdboyz are living conduits of the WAAAGH! energy pulled from the warp by the ladz, they collect it and turn it into something tangible at that moment.

It could be argued that meks are also conduits, pulling the power from the warp to give their creations the little extra push needed to make it fully functional, but all orks have some ability to affect machinery in a psychic manner.

There is no purpose in arguing about how orks can function or loot; they exist as a comedic foil to the terrible grimness that is the rest of the universe. GW has given them the powers to do anything(provided there are enough boyz about) but the orks only want to do a very select amount of things. The WAAAGH! energy is the ultimate writers hole, allowing the authors to do crazy things within the confines of the universe and for the modeling department to make insane looking models. It is the 'sonic screwdriver' of 40k; it can fix/do just about anything.

-cgmckenzie

From what I have gathered....Orks do not get their "Waaagh" energy form the Warp. It's something the old ones gave them to be a more successful species. The only Orks that have a connection to the Warp are Weirdboyz, they can use the "Waaagh" energy around them to help be able to use Warp powers. The only other Ork I can think of that might have a connection to the Warp is Ghazzy, but that's only if he's really talking to Gork and Mork.

Waaagh! energy is psychic energy, and all psychic energy is coming from the warp. The old ones were masters of the warp, pretty much proven by the existence of the webway and the other race they created, the eldar.