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NAVARRO wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

warboss wrote:So is this fruitcake?

FYI: "Fruitcake" is slang for "gay".

And I imagined it to be something like "someone crazy"

The phrase "Nuttier than a fruitcake" can denote someone who is crazy. Saying "that guy is a fruitcake" or "that guy is a fruit" usually infers something else.

So in the context of sexualized images calling a male subject "fruitcake" would refer to the later not the former would it not?

ArbeitsSchu wrote: And for the record, I have more than adequate contact with the fairer sex.

......photos, or it never happened.......

The Sanguinary Guard are a reference to ornate Roman dress armour like this, which is intended to portral an ideal, statue-like physique:

CT GAMER wrote:So in the context of sexualized images calling a male subject "fruitcake" would refer to the later not the former would it not?

Usually they use the term beefcake.

Also for "uncomfortable poses" that chap labelled as Caledonian Mormaers (with the shield) has chosen a pose that is both ridiculous AND uncomfortable for any bloke to assume, especially whilst wearing any form of trouser. He looks far more ridiculous than the girl in the back with the non-regulation vest.

Yeah, that looks uncomfortable and kinda silly for him. His legs in that position likely don't have much traction and his position is very off balance.

But he's not exactly wearing tight pants, so it isn't the problem "any bloke wearing trousers" would have... at least if my understanding of the term "trousers" is correct.

Delephont wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote: And for the record, I have more than adequate contact with the fairer sex.

......photos, or it never happened.......

The baby in the avatar is a real one. I made this mini. With a Lady. I don't think the ToS allows me to post any of the actual process of..er. .sculpting...or....casting.

I thought it was one you randomly grabbed off the internet.

The baby, not the picture.

Melissia wrote:Yeah, that looks uncomfortable and kinda silly for him. His legs in that position likely don't have much traction and his position is very off balance.

But he's not exactly wearing tight pants, so it isn't the problem "any bloke wearing trousers" would have... at least if my understanding of the term "trousers" is correct.

If he slips, then he's going to do himself a damage as well, in a most uncomfortable place.

I could probably push him and knock him down without power armor augmentation with him standing in that pose. And it's not like he can claim he's walking...

Yeah, I'm not really seeing what the problem with these models is.
Of course, if you really want it, there can always be a problem.

They are just female, manga inspired models. If anyone is offended by them, you need to stop playing with that person as soon as possible!

*edit* ive never heard the cheesecake term before, i was wondering why anyone would mind you bringing delicious cheesecake to a game.

Melissia wrote:I thought it was one you randomly grabbed off the internet.

The baby, not the picture.

From Ebaby?

No, he's a genuine little 'Schu'. I chose that pic because he busted such an awesome "knowing" face that when I post on the internets, it looks like people are arguing with a baby in a dressing gown. In the fullness of time (or when I get photoshop back up and running) I shall be adding some suitable Sci-Fant elements...perhaps a monocle and a big Genestealer Cult leader collar or some such. Or at least a medal ribbon and epaulettes.

Skippy wrote:They are just female, manga inspired models. If anyone is offended by them, you need to stop playing with that person as soon as possible!

... I don't see anyone offended by them, merely saying that they're poor quality for various reasons.

Claiming "omg they're offended!" is not really a very subtle way to insult th other side of an argument.

Mannahnin wrote:The Sanguinary Guard are a reference to ornate Roman dress armour like this, which is intended to portral an ideal, statue-like physique:

But then that is the irony: some of the same people that giggle and high five over cheesecake are the same people scoffing at Romanesque armor on male models complete with associated "homo" jokes (spoken and implied).

ArbeitsSchu wrote:

Melissia wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Incidentally: On high heels... they are obviously somewhat untenable when tabbing across Somme 19, future battlefield, but IMO they suit the 'Corporate Hard-line Security' image very well indeed.

No they don't.

If security officers wore high heels in most security jobs they'd be fired for being out of uniform because they're nothing more than a hindrance in all situations and a liability in any emergency.

You'll be thinking of the ultra-realistic 'Used to be SAS, wears a woolly pully and stares at cameras all day." security. Or maybe the "Wish I was a proper policeman Shopping Centre under-age skirt-chaser." security.

I'm thinking of the ones that show up in Peter F Hamilton books who look like suits but are skin-deep in combat implants and ultra-high-tech jiggery-pokery. You know, from the future and the imagination, where such unrealistic things as 'Spaceships' and 'star-drives' exist.

I suspect I know which concept fits better with the 'Infinity' vision of things.

Wait a second....

If spaceships don't exist, how did we get to the moon?

Oh don't worry, I think Roman armor is pretty ugly too.

I know I couldn't stand the Skyrim rendition of Imperial Armor which looked way too damned Roman for my tastes, for example...

Slarg232 wrote:If spaceships don't exist, how did we get to the moon?

Through Jesus.

It was one of His miracles. Don't you read your bible? Why, He gave us the flag we would plant there. Sew it Himself and everything!

Slarg232 wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:

Melissia wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Incidentally: On high heels... they are obviously somewhat untenable when tabbing across Somme 19, future battlefield, but IMO they suit the 'Corporate Hard-line Security' image very well indeed.

No they don't.

If security officers wore high heels in most security jobs they'd be fired for being out of uniform because they're nothing more than a hindrance in all situations and a liability in any emergency.

You'll be thinking of the ultra-realistic 'Used to be SAS, wears a woolly pully and stares at cameras all day." security. Or maybe the "Wish I was a proper policeman Shopping Centre under-age skirt-chaser." security.

I'm thinking of the ones that show up in Peter F Hamilton books who look like suits but are skin-deep in combat implants and ultra-high-tech jiggery-pokery. You know, from the future and the imagination, where such unrealistic things as 'Spaceships' and 'star-drives' exist.

I suspect I know which concept fits better with the 'Infinity' vision of things.

Wait a second....

If spaceships don't exist, how did we get to the moon?

It's a conspiracy, now grab your tinfoil hat before the Texan oil tycoons find you.

Melissia wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:1: You don't like anime features
2: called those anime manifestations "stupid" a few posts back
3: then japanese corporates and US ones "stupid"
4: and finally my comment "stupid"

1: I never said that. You are exaggerating.

2: I said they "frequently look stupid". Not always. You are exaggerating.

3: I called them corrupt, and if you want, I can provide sources on this. You are exaggerating.

4: You accused me of being a Japanophobe because... well, nothing really. There's no exaggeration from me, here, your statement really was nonsensical and inane.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:I'm thinking of the ones that show up in Peter F Hamilton books

I dont' read those books, haven't heard of the author.

But given your description, I'm not ENTIRELY sure I want to.

Sigh... 1 and 2
your quote

Yeah, anime is quite frequently completely and utterly mind-blowingly stupid like that

You are referring to the anime features you don't like as err stupid...

3 and 4
Japonophobe? your the one mentioning that now, I called your posts nation phobic because you picked US and Japan as examples of corporate stupidity and anyone with brain cells understands that EVERY country has corruption, thats being bigot towards those 2 nations... and thats something thats becoming a trend on dakka.

But since you "dont care" why are you replying and pushing this further?

But I'm probably as you say a "lonely, horny and lazy sculptor" and have better things to do than chat, I need to sculpt some stuff.

NAVARRO wrote:But since you "dont care" why are you replying and pushing this further?

I thought the reason was obvious.

CT GAMER wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

warboss wrote:So is this fruitcake?

FYI: "Fruitcake" is slang for "gay".

And I imagined it to be something like "someone crazy"

The phrase "Nuttier than a fruitcake" can denote someone who is crazy. Saying "that guy is a fruitcake" or "that guy is a fruit" usually infers something else.

So in the context of sexualized images calling a male subject "fruitcake" would refer to the later not the former would it not?

Yes I take your word for it man , its not my first language so this helps me avoiding future embarrassment

Slarg232 wrote:
Wait a second....

If spaceships don't exist, how did we get to the moon?

Pfft, it was all done in a warehouse in texas with cardboard props and actors.

Slarg232 wrote: Wait a second....

If spaceships don't exist, how did we get to the moon?

Rocketships. Duh.

Seriously guys, really. It's the new year, a day in to be fair, and you're spending your time arguing about miniature posing.

Isn't it time to step back and look at the picture. It's a fantasy game, set in the future, a place we're not at yet. That the miniatures are not realistic, well yeah, that's why it's called fantasy...if you want ultra-realism, either join the army or play historicals. The guys at CB must be laughing hard reading this rubbish (if they even give a damn).

If you really find the miniatures silly, offensive, or any other flavour of negative, just don't buy them, noone is forcing you to purchase or like the various models. If you feel that you're hard done by because you don't have alternatives, suck it up and walk it off, or take your custom elsewhere, as clearly the product line can't live up to your standards.

Of course, if you are intent to argue pointlessly about something that really isn't going to change (cause sex sells, and the guys at CB need to eat!) then by all means, ignore this "blip" in your merry making.

Delephont wrote:Seriously guys, really. It's the new year, a day in to be fair, and you're spending your time arguing about miniature posing.

Isn't it time to step back and look at the picture. It's a fantasy game, set in the future, a place we're not at yet. That the miniatures are not realistic, well yeah, that's why it's called fantasy...if you want ultra-realism, either join the army or play historicals. The guys at CB must be laughing hard reading this rubbish (if they even give a damn).

If you really find the miniatures silly, offensive, or any other flavour of negative, just don't buy them, noone is forcing you to purchase or like the various models. If you feel that you're hard done by because you don't have alternatives, suck it up and walk it off, or take your custom elsewhere, as clearly the product line can't live up to your standards.

Of course, if you are intent to argue pointlessly about something that really isn't going to change (cause sex sells, and the guys at CB need to eat!) then by all means, ignore this "blip" in your merry making.

You know I see this more like "Typical anime humor" rather than "sex", thats why I say corvus belli explores the anime concept very well.

Delephont wrote:Seriously guys, really. It's the new year, a day in to be fair, and you're spending your time arguing...

Of course, if you are intent to argue pointlessly about something...

This pretty much sums up and applies to most of Dakka's content on a a daily basis. Why would today be any different?

Melissia wrote:

Skippy wrote:They are just female, manga inspired models. If anyone is offended by them, you need to stop playing with that person as soon as possible!

... I don't see anyone offended by them, merely saying that they're poor quality for various reasons.

Claiming "omg they're offended!" is not really a very subtle way to insult th other side of an argument.

Oh wow. At this point a classical quote is appropriate.
"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion man."

You can call the Infinity miniatures a lot. You can dislike them for many reasons. You can dislike them for the reasons you listed.
But calling them poor quality? I don't even have words for that.

NAVARRO wrote:You know I see this more like "Typical anime humor" rather than "sex", thats why I say corvus belli explores the anime concept very well.

I used the line "sex sells" because of the general point being made, that CB have gone down the path of making the females ultra sexy as opposed to combat effective. It's not a statement of my personal opinion.

To be honest, if I don't like a mini in their range, I don't buy it, simple as that. I may make a point on a forum that I don't like it and why, if it comes up in conversation.....others may agree or disagree, but I won't keep scratching the itch as some people are won't to do.

Some of the guys on here arn't going to be verbally swayed to change their opinions, so why bother trying either way to convince others that your view is somehow the RIGHT view.

Delephont wrote:Seriously guys, really. It's the new year, a day in to be fair, and you're spending your time arguing about miniature posing.

Of course, if you are intent to argue pointlessly about something that really isn't going to change (cause sex sells, and the guys at CB need to eat!) then by all means, ignore this "blip" in your merry making.

Yeah, some of us work and don't get much time for Merry Making.

Also, it would be a lot less pointless if the person who made the topic didn't sabotage the discussion in the first place. No one was complaining about those particular models....

If you go to http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones/
and look at their whole range, the models in this thread don't look so out of place.

They aren't nearly as bad as all of the CMON, Freebooter, etc.. minis with exposed everything. Hell, CMON has a mini who is completely naked with fully modeled anatomy. I can't even think about trying to paint a 28mm heroic-scale vagina without feeling perverse and embarrassed . Does this mean I'm offended by the model? No, it just means I won't be buying it.

This is a hobby that spans multiple generations, nationalities, religions, sexes (So I hear, never met a female war-gamer myself) and personalities of all types in a genre that is completely imagination driven. There are minis out there that we are all gonna hate. If you don't like something don't buy it, and furthermore, if it offends you; why are you devoting time and energy into looking at and talking about it online?

The real reason all of these "offensive" minis exist is because there is a market for them. When people stop spending hard-earned money on "fleshy" female models, the modelers will stop making them. Until then, if they offend you, ignore them. If you don't want to play against them, don't.