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Youd think.

Mr Hyena wrote:I think supporting kids and providing for them while teaching life lessons is worthy of respect.

It depends on what the life lessons are, and how good the support is.

Kids whine about insignificant things, but so do parents.

Video is clearly a fake, he has other Facebook / Gun related videos already.

Mr Hyena wrote:I think supporting kids and providing for them while teaching life lessons is worthy of respect.

As a parent of ...teenagers... I agree.

Mr Hyena wrote:If kids have no obligation for respect...well if I was the parent, I would toss his ass out when I was legally able to, and shut down all support to him. Doesnt need me? Fine, live on the street then scum.

And it's exactly why your kids (if/when you have them) probably wouldn't have problems with respect.

Assuming you're willing to take such a hard line.

I like what he did. You want to play this game lil missy? Ok we are emancipating you.
Have a nice time out there, write if you pull your head out of your @ss.

Btw, I love how her mom said to shoot it once for her as well.

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
Your parents have an obligation to raise you in a safe and nurturing environment and teach you how to be an adult. You have an obligation to treat them with respect and trust and obey them.

When you are able to pay for your own living space and food you are an adult. Then you can treat other adults (including your parents) however you want.

Shockingly, a parent-child relationship is not based on the equal exchange of services. Parents are obligated to their children by way of legal consequences, children are also obligated to their parents by legal consequences (ie. don't murder dad) but not in the sense of being required to trust, respect, or obey them.

Wow. And I though MY childhood was rough... I can only imagine the kind of abuse you must have suffered to have such a cynical view of ALL parents.

Maybe Kronos had the right idea? At least for some of them? Think of it as recycling? hehe!

Vulcan wrote:
Wow. And I though MY childhood was rough... I can only imagine the kind of abuse you must have suffered to have such a cynical view of ALL parents.

My parents are, and were, actually pretty awesome. They bought me beer in high school, let my girlfriend sleepover, bought me cool stuff, cosigned a number of loans, bought me a car (Though this was as much their convenience as mine.), etc. I'm just cynical in general, especially regarding morality.

That said it isn't my view of all parents, many parents are great, but any sense of obligation either they or their children feel, that is not based on law, is entirely individuated.

Well Ill agree to that, respect isnt a law. But I think any good parent will make sure that their children learn what respect is, and that it should be given to the parents. Also, I think maybe not all, but at least some of the blame, as far as disrespectful kids go, should lay at the parents feet. Obviously they failed to do their part in raising the child.

Obviously they failed to do their part in raising the child.

A sizable chunk needs to go to the school, society in general and the kid's friends (who have big impressions that parents can find difficult to counter)

I've read this man's facebook page and he sounds like an angry guy. Even his pre-this-video posts had some rough edges. So some of his daughter's attitude ought to be his own fault.
Of course, genuine child abuse is nothing like this and that laptop got what was coming.
This guy's a true ork. High technology? Someone pissed you off? Kids are runty in the body and in the mind? DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!!!!!!

Mr Hyena wrote:

Obviously they failed to do their part in raising the child.

A sizable chunk needs to go to the school, society in general and the kid's friends (who have big impressions that parents can find difficult to counter)

Might be different in your neck of the woods, because here, I woulndnt blame the schools. Why? Because in the states, if a school faculty member did ANYTHING more then try to explain an assignment, then parents get sue happy. Im not saying its ok to back hand a disrespectful student, but Ive seen news reports in the past, where parents are suing teachers, for trying to break up fights. I mean, how can you blame a school system, when they literally would lose their jobs for trying?