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KingCracker wrote:I dont think he over reacted at all. He said in his video that he warned he previously about her doing things like that on facebook, and even said "if you ever do this again, itll be way worse" And a parent HAS to keep their promises to their children, weather fun or for punishment. If he just grounded her again, the message would of been "Im a push over, try me again"
Ive broken my kids things before for similar things. "Dont swing the bat in my house" and a week or so later when my son swings a bat in the house and breaks something, yup, he gets to throw away a nicely crush baseball bat
There's a bit of a divergance here. Most of the posters with kids are defending because we know how crazy you makes us, don't we Precious. Other posters are defending. All I have to say is...you'll see...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I watched it on a school computer with no sound, but from what I gather, his kid spends too much time on the computer, so his dad shot it with his beautiful 45.
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dogma wrote:That said, it does remind me of a line one of my old professors used to start every semester with: "And, to close this class session, remember that I've been playing this game for almost 30 years. No matter how good you think you are, I'm better. Don't bs me."
I've had a number of professors say this to me in the past. They've been universally wrong. I suspect that they say this to weed out the less intelligent or less dedicated bullgakkers.
Then again, most of academia is built around being good at bullgakking.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I watched it on a school computer with no sound, but from what I gather, his kid spends too much time on the computer, so his dad shot it with his beautiful 45.
She posted hateful stuff about them on her Facebook and was grounded earlier. She did the same thing again later when not grounded (this time) and hid it. As he works in IT he found it while upgrading her PC for her and read it all out. His 45 shot hollowpoints.
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Samus_aran115 wrote:I watched it on a school computer with no sound, but from what I gather, his kid spends too much time on the computer, so his dad shot it with his beautiful 45.
She posted hateful stuff about them on her Facebook and was grounded earlier. She did the same thing again later when not grounded (this time) and hid it. As he works in IT he found it while upgrading her PC for her and read it all out. His 45 shot hollowpoints.
Ah, that's much more appropriate. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.
Reckon he put it on t'internet so she couldn't pull the martyr card with her friends and neighbours. He very clearly explained why what she was doing was bs.
I reckon he should have sold or permanently confiscated it rather than shooting it though. Shooting it is extremely wasteful.
Da Boss wrote:Reckon he put it on t'internet so she couldn't pull the martyr card with her friends and neighbours. He very clearly explained why what she was doing was bs.
I reckon he should have sold or permanently confiscated it rather than shooting it though. Shooting it is extremely wasteful.
But so eminently satisfying.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
dogma wrote:That said, it does remind me of a line one of my old professors used to start every semester with: "And, to close this class session, remember that I've been playing this game for almost 30 years. No matter how good you think you are, I'm better. Don't bs me."
I've had a number of professors say this to me in the past. They've been universally wrong. I suspect that they say this to weed out the less intelligent or less dedicated bullgakkers.
Then again, most of academia is built around being good at bullgakking.
When I had my first course with him, he was right, by the fifth he was wrong.
Just before I graduated we were talking about some political nonsense, I think it was why the fervency of Obama supporters was hilarious (This would have been during the primary after it came down to him and Hillary.), and he asked me:
Prof: Do you believe anything you say?
Me: Some of it, but not most of it.
Prof.: You have done well, young Padawan.
That was the gist of it, anyway.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
dogma wrote:When I had my first course with him, he was right, by the fifth he was wrong.
Just before I graduated we were talking about some political nonsense, I think it was why the fervency of Obama supporters was hilarious (This would have been during the primary after it came down to him and Hillary.), and he asked me:
Prof: Do you believe anything you say?
Me: Some of it, but not most of it.
Prof.: You have done well, young Padawan.
That was the gist of it, anyway.
During the bar review, a professor informed us "If you don't know the answer to the question, BS your way through it. If you've spent 3 years in law school and haven't learned how to BS your way through an essay question you don't deserve to be a lawyer."
80% show, 20% substance. 90-10 if you're a litigator. 99.999-0.001 if you're a criminal attorney.
KingCracker wrote:I dont think he over reacted at all. He said in his video that he warned he previously about her doing things like that on facebook, and even said "if you ever do this again, itll be way worse" And a parent HAS to keep their promises to their children, weather fun or for punishment. If he just grounded her again, the message would of been "Im a push over, try me again"
Ive broken my kids things before for similar things. "Dont swing the bat in my house" and a week or so later when my son swings a bat in the house and breaks something, yup, he gets to throw away a nicely crush baseball bat
There's a bit of a divergance here. Most of the posters with kids are defending because we know how crazy you makes us, don't we Precious. Other posters are defending. All I have to say is...you'll see...
Reminds of that parenting thread that popped up a few months ago. Good grief, I agree though, just wait till you have some kids everyone else, youll see
Da Boss wrote:I guess if I had a 45 I'd be looking for problems I could solve using it, too.
I was thinking the same thing. What shows your power like bullets? A samurai sword? That would have been wicked if he sliced the computer in half with a katana.
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Da Boss wrote:I guess if I had a 45 I'd be looking for problems I could solve using it, too.
I was thinking the same thing. What shows your power like bullets? A samurai sword?
A chainsaw, a leather apron, and a hockey mask. Er...maybe I said too much...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
There has been an update in this ongoing national crisis.
Late Thursday night, Jordan posted an update on his Facebook page:
"Do I regret doing it? No. Do I regret keeping it on Facebook long enough to cause this stir? Yes," he wrote. "However at this time I feel that if I took the post or the video down, I’d just make it appear that we’re running in shame from it, and we’re not."
He said he and Hannah discussed the incident -- and the video -- after she came home from school and together set the ground rules for her punishment. And then they sat down together at his computer to read some of the thousands of comments that have been posted on Facebook.
"At first it was upsetting," he wrote. "Then, as we read it became less so, eventually funny to both of us."
She wasn't impressed with the vitriol, and turned down her dad's offer to shoot her own response video. "
"For those that wondered, commented, criticized, and just in general wanted to know: My daughter came through it fine," he wrote in another status update. "Yes, she's in trouble, and yes, she's grounded, but that doesn't mean every moment of her life has to be miserable."
"My Facebook wall will never be the same again," he quipped. "And we’ll be OK as a family and she’ll grow up happy, healthy, and have everything she needs, but not everything she wants. And I absolutely guarantee she’ll never doubt my resolve to follow-through on a consequence again.”
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
finally, someone stands up to these little gaks acting like fools on the internet. I would rather be put on a shooting gallery than say I hate my parents for anything as trivial as earning your room and board. these kids today really don't have an idea of how good they have it, free school, school buses, not having to walk through the driving snow,, not having to work if they don't want to, and yet they still don't appreciate what they have.
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captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).
Ahtman wrote:There has been an update in this ongoing national crisis.
Late Thursday night, Jordan posted an update on his Facebook page:
"Do I regret doing it? No. Do I regret keeping it on Facebook long enough to cause this stir? Yes," he wrote. "However at this time I feel that if I took the post or the video down, I’d just make it appear that we’re running in shame from it, and we’re not."
He said he and Hannah discussed the incident -- and the video -- after she came home from school and together set the ground rules for her punishment. And then they sat down together at his computer to read some of the thousands of comments that have been posted on Facebook.
"At first it was upsetting," he wrote. "Then, as we read it became less so, eventually funny to both of us."
She wasn't impressed with the vitriol, and turned down her dad's offer to shoot her own response video. "
"For those that wondered, commented, criticized, and just in general wanted to know: My daughter came through it fine," he wrote in another status update. "Yes, she's in trouble, and yes, she's grounded, but that doesn't mean every moment of her life has to be miserable."
"My Facebook wall will never be the same again," he quipped. "And we’ll be OK as a family and she’ll grow up happy, healthy, and have everything she needs, but not everything she wants. And I absolutely guarantee she’ll never doubt my resolve to follow-through on a consequence again.”
I fight with my dad all the time and most cases fights are about similiar things like in op's video. While parent's actions seem to be justified he forgets one little thing his daughter had no choice over her life. It is her parents who chose to have a child, chose to give her food, roof on top of her head and a laptop. And they did this because they wanted to. It is like you donated food to a hungry person and after you have second thoughts you demand the food back. Your child has no obligaltion to do anything you want them do or give any respect.
Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
Frazz, you come up with the most wonderful posts ever!
That dad is my hero ffs. Damn when I´m gonna be a dad some time in the far far distant future this vid will be well remembered lol
Hey, everyone, let's defend a psycho dad who solves personal relations issues by shooting stuff.
Then next week we can act all outraged about a psycho teen who solves personal relations issues by shooting stuff.
Mmmmm shoooooting stuff *drool*
So genius, what kind of desperate connection did you try to make between a calm and composed parent and his removal of a rebellious and disrespectful teens computer again?
By your logic if parents simply ground kids or take away their stuff rather then "destroy" them society is going to be swamped with hordes of stealing kids who lock people up all the time.
Nice try, try again!
Your child has no obligaltion to do anything you want them do or give any respect.
Are you for gakking real or simply just a 13 year old super naive ultra no-rules liberal?
I just don't think it needed to be public. Do the discipline, teach
the lesson. If she wants to make the punishment public, then let
her, but if it's the same crime again (disrespect), then re-do the
punishment or increase it. I don't know, I guess I don't think the
shaming needed to be so public.
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illuknisaa wrote:I fight with my dad all the time and most cases fights are about similiar things like in op's video. While parent's actions seem to be justified he forgets one little thing his daughter had no choice over her life. It is her parents who chose to have a child, chose to give her food, roof on top of her head and a laptop. And they did this because they wanted to. It is like you donated food to a hungry person and after you have second thoughts you demand the food back. Your child has no obligaltion to do anything you want them to do or give any respect.
To the part i have bolded i have this to say. Are you a fething moron!??! I know if i did not give my parents any respect then come hell or high water i was in deep gak. I know when i ever have children and they even remotely act like they have no respect for myself, MY wife, MY parents or any of their elders, then they are going to be miserable for as long as it takes them to learn how to respect others.
And no mater what the hell you have as a rebutal you will be wrong!
The only way that respect is not deserving is if you get beaten for no reason whatsoever, which unfortunately does happen all to often, and by beaten i mean broken bones, lacerations, you know that gak where the kid winds up in foster care and the parent in jail (had to put this so i dont seem like some nutcase )
Da Boss wrote:I guess if I had a 45 I'd be looking for problems I could solve using it, too.
I was thinking the same thing. What shows your power like bullets? A samurai sword? That would have been wicked if he sliced the computer in half with a katana.
It's more of design and tradition over practicality. Just use an axe or a bat.
illuknisaa wrote:I fight with my dad all the time and most cases fights are about similiar things like in op's video. While parent's actions seem to be justified he forgets one little thing his daughter had no choice over her life. It is her parents who chose to have a child, chose to give her food, roof on top of her head and a laptop. And they did this because they wanted to. It is like you donated food to a hungry person and after you have second thoughts you demand the food back. Your child has no obligaltion to do anything you want them do or give any respect.
Aside from learning to respect authority figures in life, like your college professors, your bosses, the police, the IRS, etc....
You are going to be in the position of having to follow orders you don't like for your entire life. You can learn to cope and get along in life, or not learn to cope and spend long periods unemployed between craptatstic McJobs. Part of learning to cope is learning how to relate to your parents, since they are the FIRST authority figures you will have to deal with.
Incidentally, unless you are getting a 4.0 average in school you're gonna need some help from your parents to get into college. Piss them off enough and your little sister might get your college money instead.
malfred wrote:I just don't think it needed to be public. Do the discipline, teach
the lesson. If she wants to make the punishment public, then let
her, but if it's the same crime again (disrespect), then re-do the
punishment or increase it. I don't know, I guess I don't think the
shaming needed to be so public.
Part of teen's audacity came from cheered by peers, may it be peer pressure or just wanting attention.
The dad, by making the video public, beat her to her own game. Perhaps even earned some plus points
among his daughter's friends.
let this be the wake-up call that too many kids are being disrespectful gaks on the internet behind their backs, and it's the job of the parents to discipline these little brats.
that's the cross we bear for living in the first world. these kids today have no appreciation for what they have, and the people demonizing the father for doing his job are the same people who let their little hellions run loose in the supermarket.
not a big YFM fan, but this song fits the subject.
NSFW- language
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captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).
illuknisaa wrote:I fight with my dad all the time and most cases fights are about similiar things like in op's video. While parent's actions seem to be justified he forgets one little thing his daughter had no choice over her life. It is her parents who chose to have a child, chose to give her food, roof on top of her head and a laptop. And they did this because they wanted to. It is like you donated food to a hungry person and after you have second thoughts you demand the food back. Your child has no obligaltion to do anything you want them do or give any respect.
You know this is the exact overindulgent entitled teen attitude that is the cause of so many child "disappearances". Your child has no obligaltion to do anything you want them do or give any respect. Yeah well neither do parents for that matter besides "the basics". But they do or should and so should their children.
My parents and I fought because the didn't trust me because some of my siblings were donkey caves. I never did anything wrong, well not that they knew of, yet they still tried to treat me like I was in the gulag. That led to a lot of fights because I came home late intentionally, (10 o'clock really? I'm a Junior in Highschool the game isn't even over by then) just to show them I was fine and could handle it. You know what, all that time, you better believe I still did all my chores. We both knew we respected and loved each other and did more than fulfill our obligations to each other. Just because you don't see eye to eye on one subject is no reason to ruin a relationship with your family.
"I don't have principles, and I consider any comment otherwise to be both threatening and insulting" - Dogma
"No, sorry, synonymous does not mean same".-Dogma
"If I say "I will hug you" I am threatening you" -Dogma
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