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Mannahnin wrote:We're not. None of those things are happening to men, and it's silly of you to say so.

This isn't a bad thing?:

You know, I think sexism is on its last legs now. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but things seem to be getting better. Besides, statistically women get better grades in school and are more likely to be hired than men, which is big step forward from say, 20 years ago. The few remaining sexists seem to be freaking out now and are getting louder and crazier (like Rush Limbaugh).

Notice how it doesn't say that men and woman are equally likely to be hired, which is what we should be after?

There is also the case of education...in which there are bias against men. Especially primary school teaching. Also in child custody disputes. I'm not saying women aren't mistreated, but I think to say that there is nothing like that for men, is pretty ignorant.

There is a fair amoutn fo evidence to show that men and women benefit from different learning and examination styles...
Though ultimately it'd come down to individual by individual basis...

There is a fair amoutn fo evidence to show that men and women benefit from different learning and examination styles...

Job wise especially. Male primary school teachers get a helluva time of it.

Mannahnin wrote:

Mr Hyena wrote:What does history matter when we're currently repeating history for the opposite gender now? I thought this was meant to be gender-unbiased rather than purely revenge.

None of what you wrote here corresponds to reality.

Are you told to get in the kitchen and not allowed to hold many jobs based on your gender? Are you paid less for the same work than a woman of equal qualifications and experience? Is your wife permitted to beat you or have sex with you against your will without it being a crime?

All of those things were true of women even in Western countries until fairly recently. One of them still is.

Yes actually, but then again I'm married to a Texas woman...

Just hit em with a stick till they learn it by wrote, purplefood.

Frazzled, Texan women, frankly, are more manly than most men.

I mean that in the best possible way of course.

MrDwhitey wrote:Just hit em with a stick till they learn it by wrote, purplefood.

Until they run you over, or playing choppy choppy with a butcher knife when you sleep (at least thats how we raise them in Texas )

Frazzled, Texan women, frankly, are more manly than most men.

I mean that in the best possible way of course.

Yep, and thats how we like it!

Texas doesn't count, Fraz. We're talking about civilized countries. We all know things are worse in the barbaric regions of the world.

Mannahnin wrote:Texas doesn't count, Fraz. We're talking about civilized countries. We all know things are worse in the barbaric regions of the world.

To paraphrase a quote actually about Louisiana: "We're not real smart, but we have a good time."

Melissia wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:Women's Day: As if American women weren't entitled enough

Spoiler:

Oh yes, we're SOOOOOO fething entitled.

If that were actually true in most 1st world countries, then every company would just have females as there employees.

http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/do-women-really-get-paid-less-than-men/
http://datassist.ca/2011/09/why-are-women-in-canada-getting-paid-less-than-men/
http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/censusstatistic/a/womenspay.htm

PapaPiggy wrote:Hate to tell you but this is a load of BS, The courts aren't fair for men and women. The entire system in the US is devoted to making men's life harder. And trust me, I am currently going through this. I had 5 witness who saw the child's mother abuse him and the courts sided with the mother. Now the judge is female, and for some reason the mother is getting more time with the child and getting her way. I haven't gotten a holiday with the child since this started. Now tell me that men and women are treated equally.

No, it isn't bs. It's the result of an extensive study of the findings of courts, and the result is clear. Unlike to position 20 or more years ago, now when custody is disputed courts are coming down basically equally in terms of men and women.

I don't know your story, maybe you are getting screwed over. But your anecdote doesn't trump the entire rest of the human experience.

I do find it kind of funny that you'd assume the judge sides with your ex because she's female, but at the same time you seem completely oblivious to the basic fact that most positions of power are held by men, and that this might possibly affect how people are treated.

Now do women need a day? Where is the man's day?

There is a men's day. This was pointed out on the first page. Read the thread.

Isn't there a holiday in February where men devote most of our time and energy along with all out money to make you happy?

If you have a grossly disfunctional view of dating and the development of relationships, then sure. Or, more to the point, you think International Women's Day is about women wanting to be treated nicely, and not as a forum to discuss important areas of equality that still need to be managed.

and are men going to have to buy things for womyn's day? Are we still going to get yelled at? When i see women in the streets being beat for driving then yes maybe we need to remind our selves that they are people too. but until that day, i'll continue to spend a massive amount of money every Friday and one day every February.

So basically we've established you have no idea what Women's Day is about, but you really want to complain about the imaginary thing in your head. Okay then.


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Mr Hyena wrote:At the cost of losing a significant amount of male supporters for women's rights by leaving it too long, as it looks like anti-male behaviour. If we're going to be gender-neutral and totally unbiased...then we should solve EVERY problem as it is discovered (perhaps explaining why there is a rise on female-on-male abuse.).

Women in undeveloped countries are still denied economic independance and access to contraceptives is a bit more of a priority than other issues.

It is very important to understand that while men might have some things to complain about, maybe, they are very, very trivial matters in the scheme of greater gender equality. Perspective matters.

Seann William Scott is a philosopher.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3379851/role_models_boobies_scene/

purplefood wrote:Well socially there are several stereotypes concerning men that are overwhelmingly negative...
It's the same for women but at least those are seen and people agree they are a bad thing...

The stereotypes against men are also decried. I know I mock them every time someone tries to use them as an excuse for bad behavior.

Mind you you've never seen me use PMS as an excuse for bad behavior either so perhaps I'm just the odd person out.

sebster wrote:Hate to tell you but this is a load of BS, The courts aren't fair for men and women. The entire system in the US is devoted to making men's life harder. And trust me, I am currently going through this. I had 5 witness who saw the child's mother abuse him and the courts sided with the mother. Now the judge is female, and for some reason the mother is getting more time with the child and getting her way. I haven't gotten a holiday with the child since this started. Now tell me that men and women are treated equally.

No, it isn't bs. It's the result of an extensive study of the findings of courts, and the result is clear. Unlike to position 20 or more years ago, now when custody is disputed courts are coming down basically equally in terms of men and women.

You know, If you give the right people enough money they will come up with the results people want to hear. If you haven't had to go through a custody battle, then you don't have any first hand knowledge. You shouldn't believe all the studies you read. I could very well be getting screwed over. But you can't say that men and women are treated equally when it comes to children. No matter how many test are done and studies come out, it won't ever be equal. maybe some basis as gone away. But not enough to be able to say the court is equal. At least in the US, I can't speak for other countries.

I have add three different jobs where women are hired, and yet they can't do the job. But the people i worked for had to hire them for quotas. Whos losing there? Women being paid the same amount as a man, but can't physically do the job. Is that fair? If you say yes something is wrong in your head.

Its kinda funny it you think about it... Table top war games are seen as a man thing in most peoples eyes, and yet there is a thread about women... and its not about sex. Women need to remember, that they make the rules in the relationship, because i hate to tell the men out there, but a hand isn't the same.

Edited for being poorly phrased, even with good intentions.

I appreciate the topic can get a bit personal, but it'd be best if we perhaps refrained from labelling other posters as pyschopaths/similar please. Ta.

At least they've been made a MOD err.. killed their first victim and fed them to their weiner dogs ..danced around wearing their skins, wearing a traffic cone on their head yelling " Look at me, I'm heinrich kemmler ".

.. people still do that right ? I'm still down with the cool kids yeah ?

reds8n wrote: I appreciate the topic can get a bit personal, but it'd be best if we perhaps refrained from labelling other posters as pyschopaths/similar please. Ta.

At least they've been made a MOD err.. killed their first victim and fed them to their weiner dogs ..danced around wearing their skins, wearing a traffic cone on their head yelling " Look at me, I'm heinrich kemmler ".

.. people still do that right ? I'm still down with the cool kids yeah ?

Someone should have told you, if you mention their name, they will come.

Sometimes that weiner he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a weiner... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.


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