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To the person a few pages back (I think it was on this thread) who was getting stressed about how Chaos were turning into Tyranids...



Well, they did say they based the new models on 1st and 2nd ed imagery!

I flipped the heldrake's wings around in photoshop to see if it looked any better.



ehhhh? maybe with a bit of work and a tail or something.

Alternatively, just loot a fantasy dragon/manitcore/chimera/griffon.

strengthofthedragon2 wrote:
I like to run a lash based army with defilers and plague marines with Epidemius (daemon ally, occasionally). Its rumored the new codex will not have lash. I have recently picked up orks due to CSM becoming stale. I have also been wanting a dread that I can somewhat rely on. I guess I had high hopes for the models, but I will wait to see what the rules are for the new models and possibly proxy them with a model I like. I understand though, that some models you just have to play (which is why I am picking up some SW cavalry). Like you said, my biggest issue is that the army I like to play may not exist and I am not liking the models enough to spend the $50+ on them just to "try them out". Who knows, maybe they will grow on me... A lot of the opinions on here (mine included) are reactions to the new models. Maybe in time they will (somehow) become more appealing...

Definitely can't force people to like any models. It would definitely be lousy for you if your army is no longer viable. GW has gotten better at such problems with new codex versions, but it hasn't gone away completely. They do seem to have figured out that people like it when new units are added, but not when old units suddenly vanish for no adequately explained reason which leaves some people screwed. I'm most concerned about my large chosen unit in my Khorne army and it still fitting within the bounds of the new chosen unit rules. Have to see how that pans out for me...

Skriker

 Captain Roderick wrote:
To the person a few pages back (I think it was on this thread) who was getting stressed about how Chaos were turning into Tyranids...



Well, they did say they based the new models on 1st and 2nd ed imagery!

I'd like it if they looked more chaotic and less like spikey dudes.

I was wanting CSM allies with my Daemons, but I'll stick to just fleshing out my Tzeentch/Slaanesh army and forget it as I was wanting TSONS and Noise Marines, but the upgrade kits + marines = ludicrous cost. Rather get more pink horrors. Then again, if CD all lose EW, I might just quit them too.

Been wanting to look into Tau for awhile....

 McGibs wrote:
I flipped the heldrake's wings around in photoshop to see if it looked any better.



ehhhh? maybe with a bit of work and a tail or something.

Alternatively, just loot a fantasy dragon/manitcore/chimera/griffon.

Dang, that looks kinda cool.

 McGibs wrote:
I flipped the heldrake's wings around in photoshop to see if it looked any better.



ehhhh? maybe with a bit of work and a tail or something.

Alternatively, just loot a fantasy dragon/manitcore/chimera/griffon.

Or the wings could be flipped like this

 ChiliPowderKeg wrote:

 McGibs wrote:
I flipped the heldrake's wings around in photoshop to see if it looked any better.



ehhhh? maybe with a bit of work and a tail or something.

Alternatively, just loot a fantasy dragon/manitcore/chimera/griffon.

Or the wings could be flipped like this

Now that actually looks nice, with the normal GW model the lack of a tail bothers me.

 Skriker wrote:

strengthofthedragon2 wrote:
I like to run a lash based army with defilers and plague marines with Epidemius (daemon ally, occasionally). Its rumored the new codex will not have lash. I have recently picked up orks due to CSM becoming stale. I have also been wanting a dread that I can somewhat rely on. I guess I had high hopes for the models, but I will wait to see what the rules are for the new models and possibly proxy them with a model I like. I understand though, that some models you just have to play (which is why I am picking up some SW cavalry). Like you said, my biggest issue is that the army I like to play may not exist and I am not liking the models enough to spend the $50+ on them just to "try them out". Who knows, maybe they will grow on me... A lot of the opinions on here (mine included) are reactions to the new models. Maybe in time they will (somehow) become more appealing...

Definitely can't force people to like any models. It would definitely be lousy for you if your army is no longer viable. GW has gotten better at such problems with new codex versions, but it hasn't gone away completely. They do seem to have figured out that people like it when new units are added, but not when old units suddenly vanish for no adequately explained reason which leaves some people screwed. I'm most concerned about my large chosen unit in my Khorne army and it still fitting within the bounds of the new chosen unit rules. Have to see how that pans out for me...

Skriker

I glanced over the codex and it seems that my love of defilers may come to an end. Can't say the new forgefiend is any better points-wise, it seems like a specialized dreadnought.... but perhaps two of those with the new tech priest tending to them would be ok... now if I can just get rid of these defiler models Overall,as I suspected, by looking at the stats of the new models it kind of eased my dislike of them. I still won't be running out and buying every new model... but maybe in the far future I could see getting a couple of the forgefiends.

I completely agree with you dislike the new models and the pricing is just outrageous. I dislike the upgrade spur idea for the cult marines more than anything.

strengthofthedragon2 wrote:
I glanced over the codex and it seems that my love of defilers may come to an end. Can't say the new forgefiend is any better points-wise, it seems like a specialized dreadnought.... but perhaps two of those with the new tech priest tending to them would be ok... now if I can just get rid of these defiler models Overall,as I suspected, by looking at the stats of the new models it kind of eased my dislike of them. I still won't be running out and buying every new model... but maybe in the far future I could see getting a couple of the forgefiends.

I'll still use my defilers regardless, if they fit the theme I want for my force on the table top. I've never played to "cost effectiveness" in 40k in the past and don't intend to start now. If I want a defiler or two on the table, that is what I will have. My forge world plague hulk has been seeing more table time than my baseline defilers of late, but that is because I am just smitten with the model. It is too awesome to not pull off the shelf regularly. Still not sure how I feel about the forge and mauler fiends. Not sure I see a place for the maulers in my forces, since I already have a number of daemon engine type things that excel at the close in roll. Might just make a couple different forgefiends instead. I plan to spread some of the new stuff around my existing armies, but also am planning to paint up some of my DV and other new chaos stuff in an entirely new chapter's colors. Still trying to figure out what that force will be. I have CSM forces for Khorne,Nurgle and Slaanesh already.

Skriker