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Thought I'd wish for some re-releases, too

White Speaker Nico would be quite awesome, she's the first model I saw of the line, immediately got me hooked, but then she was long sold out already.

I also quite like the miniatures from the Gift of Death, especially the man-hunter and the saviour. Would love to see all of them at some point during the KS

Good work so far, though, I really love all the add-ons, need to check how many I can get

Oh yes, I'd happily throw money at a re-release of the White Speakers, Mother or Great Game Hunter.

Wonder if you will be able to get some of the pinups artwork separately from the resin pieces. The plastic figures are fine for play, but would like some of the artwork.

*keeps fingers crossed for cheaper canadian shipping + re-releases of sold outs via kickstarter*

I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

Good point - maybe he'll eventually add in a Canadian Shipping version?

Altruizine wrote:
I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

$40 for the USPS Large Flat Rate Box to Canada: http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10054&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=11

And thats only if it all fits into a 12x12x6" box.

Yeah, thinking about what I'm actually going to be getting at Survivor level I'm not bothered by the Canadian shipping any more.

 Cyporiean wrote:

Altruizine wrote:
I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

$40 for the USPS Large Flat Rate Box to Canada: http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10054&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=11

And thats only if it all fits into a 12x12x6" box.

There you go then - that's that sorted!

Now, on to more stretch goals, please!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Altruizine wrote:
I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

$40 for the USPS Large Flat Rate Box to Canada: http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10054&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=11

And thats only if it all fits into a 12x12x6" box.

There you go then - that's that sorted!

Now, on to more stretch goals, please!

Tasty Delicious Stretch Goals. *drools*

 Cyporiean wrote:

Altruizine wrote:
I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

$40 for the USPS Large Flat Rate Box to Canada: http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10054&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=11

And thats only if it all fits into a 12x12x6" box.

That sucks. I guess I still just have no idea how the postal service pricing works. Like I can order a huge 1' x 2' box of crap from The Warstore for >$20, but then the flat-rate for an even smaller box is somehow more expensive.

Anyway, I can't swallow a 50% shipping tax, so I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers that a regular retail version of the game will eventually become available.

Altruizine wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Altruizine wrote:
I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

$40 for the USPS Large Flat Rate Box to Canada: http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10054&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=11

And thats only if it all fits into a 12x12x6" box.

That sucks. I guess I still just have no idea how the postal service pricing works. Like I can order a huge 1' x 2' box of crap from The Warstore for >$20, but then the flat-rate for an even smaller box is somehow more expensive.

Anyway, I can't swallow a 50% shipping tax, so I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers that a regular retail version of the game will eventually become available.

Or that the added extras will be worth more to you than the 50% shipping tax.
There is already a tonne of added stuff. And all of the extras on top are free shipping (as $45 covers the lot)

I have to say that I'm looking forward to this. I have been keeping an eye on the Kingdom Death minis for a while now, but never thought to get any. Now that there is a game to go with it I'm pretty excited for this release.

 Makaleth wrote:

Altruizine wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Altruizine wrote:
I've always admired the KoD stuff from afar, but had no reason to purchase anything.

This is really tempting, but I think the $45 Canadian shipping has priced me out. How does that even make sense? Surely the USPS has a North American flat-rate option that is less than that....

$40 for the USPS Large Flat Rate Box to Canada: http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10054&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=11

And thats only if it all fits into a 12x12x6" box.

That sucks. I guess I still just have no idea how the postal service pricing works. Like I can order a huge 1' x 2' box of crap from The Warstore for >$20, but then the flat-rate for an even smaller box is somehow more expensive.

Anyway, I can't swallow a 50% shipping tax, so I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers that a regular retail version of the game will eventually become available.

Or that the added extras will be worth more to you than the 50% shipping tax.
There is already a tonne of added stuff. And all of the extras on top are free shipping (as $45 covers the lot)

That is a VERY good point, as the 'retail' on many of the $15 add-ons looks to be $30.

So, if you spend enough to get them, you'll be ahead of the game?

 Alpharius wrote:


That is a VERY good point, as the 'retail' on many of the $15 add-ons looks to be $30.

So, if you spend enough to get them, you'll be ahead of the game?

That is the fast-lane to Kickstarters Anonymous.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:


That is a VERY good point, as the 'retail' on many of the $15 add-ons looks to be $30.

So, if you spend enough to get them, you'll be ahead of the game?

That is the fast-lane to Kickstarters Anonymous.

Don't I know it!

It is that reverse 'logic' that if you spend more, you'll be saving so much!

Wait, so me getting 2 vampire sets from Reaper Bones wasn't saving me money? I dun been had!

But seriously, I'm in for survivor + some extras. Been eyeing KD for a while. I couldn't resist if I wanted to.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bacms wrote:


Kind of what I mean is it seems to be clear he is reaching the limit on the stuff he seems to think he can add to the game. Except we still have 40+ days to go... He has been trying to point several times in his posts he is reaching the limit in terms of what he can include, what the manufacturer can produce and so on

If that happens, we'll still be OK, but the campaign might slow way down and not hit the projected potential of multiple millions.

Some things he can do is add in 'free' miniatures at the "Survivor" level and above, sprinkled in with more "add this miniature in for $x" type of 'rewards'.

This gets more new backers to commit and also gets already committed backers to increase their pledge.

A tried and true formula.

Plus, with a ship date of a year from now, he should be able to figure it all out IF it is planned well, and it looks like it should be well planned!

The lack of updates it is a clear signal he is trying to down the campaign and so not hit the projected potential. Let's see how it goes

Adam stated that he's traveling today, plus he keeps Bruce Wayne hours.
I don't think anyone would have planned for this campaign to get so big so fast. It's clear that he did do a lot of planning, but there's no way he expected to blow through 10+ stretches/ add ons in four days.
It would be nice to see more than one stretch in advance, but he might need a few days to get there.

You guys need to give him a chance, he has things well under control!

I just saw this thread and hopped over to the kickstarter page and all I have to say is THIS LOOKS AWESOME!!! Never pledged on kickstarter but I might just start with this.

 Bacms wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bacms wrote:


Kind of what I mean is it seems to be clear he is reaching the limit on the stuff he seems to think he can add to the game. Except we still have 40+ days to go... He has been trying to point several times in his posts he is reaching the limit in terms of what he can include, what the manufacturer can produce and so on

If that happens, we'll still be OK, but the campaign might slow way down and not hit the projected potential of multiple millions.

Some things he can do is add in 'free' miniatures at the "Survivor" level and above, sprinkled in with more "add this miniature in for $x" type of 'rewards'.

This gets more new backers to commit and also gets already committed backers to increase their pledge.

A tried and true formula.

Plus, with a ship date of a year from now, he should be able to figure it all out IF it is planned well, and it looks like it should be well planned!

The lack of updates it is a clear signal he is trying to down the campaign and so not hit the projected potential. Let's see how it goes

You're not serious, are you?

Anyway... we've got 40+ days to go - more than enough time for things to get even more interesting than they already are!

 plastictrees wrote:
I don't think anyone would have planned for this campaign to get so big so fast. It's clear that he did do a lot of planning, but there's no way he expected to blow through 10+ stretches/ add ons in four days.
It would be nice to see more than one stretch in advance, but he might need a few days to get there.

It's also quite possible that he has to work with his manufacturer before making any further commitments. The project is at 1500+ backers now. That may be the final amount they had planned for, but instead it looks to be a fraction of what will end up being the final tally. 41 days to go, that's a lot to plan ahead for.

Interesting note: bases on the current performance, Kicktraq has it trending towards almost $3,000,000. I doubt that will happen, as this seems like one of those projects that will level off for awhile and then pick up steam again, but we'll see.
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster/

Yeah, I think the project will probably finish off at around 500,000. Maybe a million. I expect it to slow down a fair bit from here on out.

Just a question as I'm new to kickstarter, but is there any kind of guarantee if you pledge money? I'm not saying anyone would intentionally take the money and run, but I've never pledged before and was just wondering.

It's going wayyy past 500K, if past KS are any guide!

 squall018 wrote:
Just a question as I'm new to kickstarter, but is there any kind of guarantee if you pledge money? I'm not saying anyone would intentionally take the money and run, but I've never pledged before and was just wondering.

Guarantee is a strong word. There is a binding legal agreement via KickStarter to fulfill promised rewards, but if a creator just bombs miserably you have very few options. Not to say you have no recourse, just that it's unlikely you'll see much out of it. In this case, a company that's been extant for 3 years with a strong product line and plan seems less likely to be an issue, but it's still caveat emptor.

More information available at http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter%20basics#Acco

Tannhauser42 wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
I don't think anyone would have planned for this campaign to get so big so fast. It's clear that he did do a lot of planning, but there's no way he expected to blow through 10+ stretches/ add ons in four days.
It would be nice to see more than one stretch in advance, but he might need a few days to get there.

It's also quite possible that he has to work with his manufacturer before making any further commitments. The project is at 1500+ backers now. That may be the final amount they had planned for, but instead it looks to be a fraction of what will end up being the final tally. 41 days to go, that's a lot to plan ahead for.

Interesting note: bases on the current performance, Kicktraq has it trending towards almost $3,000,000. I doubt that will happen, as this seems like one of those projects that will level off for awhile and then pick up steam again, but we'll see.
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster/

I think it will be closer to 1 to 1.5 million.

I think the 'delay' we're seeing now is due to the desire to have good, attainable stretch goals - for all parties involved!

Also, we're spoiled a bit by the number of updates we got in the opening rounds!

Fafnir wrote:Yeah, I think the project will probably finish off at around 500,000. Maybe a million. I expect it to slow down a fair bit from here on out.

That's quite they range there, Mr. Vegas!

squall018 wrote:Just a question as I'm new to Kickstarter, but is there any kind of guarantee if you pledge money? I'm not saying anyone would intentionally take the money and run, but I've never pledged before and was just wondering.

Nope, no guarantee at all really, but if you back a project from an 'established' player, you're probably OK.

About the only guarantee we have is that the more successful a Kickstarter, the longer the delay in getting everything delivered - for obvious reasons!

Though with the delivery date on this one going to this time next year, we should be fine!

No guarantee.
You only pay if a Kickstarter gets funded (which this one has been). In a way you are gambling on the history of a given company or individual.
Kingdom Death has been around for a few years now and Adam seems to have a good handle on costs and timeframe, but ultimately you are paying in advance for something that doesn't entirely exist yet.
The upside to that is that you are generally getting more product than you would at retail for your money and exclusive product that you couldn't get outside the KS.

Thanks for the replies guys. Looks cool enough that I think I'm gonna get in on this. Now the only question is how much!