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Do the passangers embarked in a night scythe take damage per the crash and burn rules when the vehicle is destroyed?
Yes, but they are NOT allowed Reanimation Protocol.
Yes, but they are allowed Reanimation Protocol
No, they are merely placed into reserve

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Buffalo, NY

And the don't take the hits finally has the lead...

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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Would be funny to see how people voted on the Dark Eldar Flickerfield.

Rules is it's an Invulnerable save, fluff is it's an optical illusion making the vehicle look like it's there or maybe not. Fluffwise it makes no sense you could use it against the damage you take from ramming (looking like you didn't hit that Landraider shouldn't protect you from the damage) or from failing a Dangerous Terrain test (look like you didn't hit that tree all you want, bub).

   
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"No long discussion"

4 pages long. Welcome to dakkadakka

   
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I'm still amazed we're still at a 50/50 split. someone should notify GW, that this is obviously not a clear topic. lol

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Dundee, Scotland/Dharahn, Saudi Arabia

Looks like its been officially resolved.
No damage, go into reserve.
It's in the latest update to the digital codex.

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Can you do a printscreen to see for ourselves?
   
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Liverpool

 marv335 wrote:
Looks like its been officially resolved.
No damage, go into reserve.
It's in the latest update to the digital codex.

Well, not really official until it hits the FAQ's, but a good indication of changes in the next round of FAQ's.
Still a screen grab would be nice if that doesn't violate any copy rights.
   
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Not even sure why GW's doing digital codexes, they can't even keep up with FAQ's ...

   
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How could a screen grab violate copy rights. I bought my codex and I should know any updates on it.
   
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Dundee, Scotland/Dharahn, Saudi Arabia

Here's the text.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3eznjx35viiakk/2013-01-12%2016.20.19.jpg

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/Interesting, so no damage to the necrons embarked! darn!

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Now I'm confused. Why wouldn't they just FAQ that? How many people are going to have access to the digital codex?

But that being said, looks like the questions been answered.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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Dundee, Scotland/Dharahn, Saudi Arabia

To be fair, I got the update this morning as I was downloading the DA codex, it wasn't there last night.
I expect a FAQ will be published on Monday.
There may be other changes in the codex, it's just that's the only one I noticed.

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 marv335 wrote:
To be fair, I got the update this morning as I was downloading the DA codex, it wasn't there last night.
I expect a FAQ will be published on Monday.
There may be other changes in the codex, it's just that's the only one I noticed.


Hmm I wonder if anyone noticed any other changes in the codex's?

Always good to see something resolved!
   
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Netherlands

Ooh, brb!
Quickly buying an Ipad and Digital Codex's because GW doesn't bother to update the rest -_-'
   
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Anyone else notice that aside from the digital codex saying the transported units don't take damage, that they removed the "Jump infantry count as 2 units; jetbikes count as 3" with the transport capacity? So apparently, jump infantry and jetbikes take up the exact same amount of space as basic infantry with necrons now.

For every one thing they "fix", they screw up two others
   
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In 6th edition JI have the bulk rule, so each JI model counts as 2 infantry models for transport capacity. No need to repeat that in the codex.
   
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Netherlands

Seconded.
Instead of "counts as two", they now have:
Bulky => 2 spots
Very Bulky => 3 spots
Extremely Bulky => 5 spots
   
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I guess, just seems odd to remove it altogether when the paper versions would still have it. Unless they update those too

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Buffalo, NY

They will. In about 5 months when they are finally finished reviewing the non-digital version of the Dark Angels codex and release updates to fix all the glaring errors in it.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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So I guess that since fluff are becoming rules now with edition changes does that mean that RAI for spore mines is that they are ap3 since fluff says the acid in them burns through ceramite which is what SM power armor is made from. I bet they let the author A.K.A. Mat Ward A.K.A Mr. I have never seen so much bias in my life, decide which way this went.

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Hey look at that, no damage. nice.

It's good to see them conclusively state something that they'd previously only alluded to and confused a lot of people in so doing.
   
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 Neorealist wrote:
Hey look at that, no damage. nice.

It's good to see them conclusively state something that they'd previously only alluded to and confused a lot of people in so doing.
shame we can't lock this while the polls still 50/50 (ok 48/51)

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Tri wrote: shame we can't lock this while the polls still 50/50 (ok 48/51)
Yeah, that would be a fitting end to a convoluted issue. A Testament if you will.
   
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Awesome about the digital dex update. The past couple times the dex's weren't updated until a week or so after the FAQs.

Thank you GW. Now, release the rest of the codexes on the iPad.

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So as they arent in the night scythe if they haven't disembarked by the end of the game do they count as destroyed?
   
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I just want them to release them on a non-apple product. I'm not carrying around my Ipad when I play. Now, my android phone is an option...

Still good thing to see this got cleared up. Necrons win!
   
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Netherlands

 spears wrote:
So as they arent in the night scythe if they haven't disembarked by the end of the game do they count as destroyed?

According to the rules they are normally embarked on it, so they do not count as destroyed.

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South Chicago burbs

So they are not technically in the scythe so they take no damage, but they get the benefits of being in the scythe such as activating solar pulse.....

I think that's called having your cake and eating it too! LOL

insaniak wrote:
YMDC has plenty of room for discussion veering away from the RAW, particularly in cases like this where what is being put forward as the RAW is absurd.

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Shock, a necron ruling that changes yet more rules......
   
 
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