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 Peregrine wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:
and a heck of a lot more damage then the heaviest weapons platform you could get in standard battles in terms of bullets thrown.

Not really. For 500 points you can get three LRBTs of various types, which are easily matching its firepower. And on defense the Baneblade isn't all that scary either, drop pod combi-melta sternguard and similar tank killers will deal with it just fine.


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 -Loki- wrote:
If there's only low cost squads it can see, it's not killing much at all.

Or vehicles. Against vehicles the Baneblade is 500 points for an ordnance lascannon, a demolisher cannon, and two single lascannons. It's underwhelming against even Rhinos, and nearly useless against anything with AV 14 or good cover saves.

wow what russes can you get for 500 points that match a baneblade? I wasn't aware there was a Russ with a seven inch blast template.

 sudojoe wrote:
Just had a random thought cross my mind but do you guys think that we'll get super heavies soon in regular games of 40k?

Given the sheer size of the wraithlord, it might as well be an APOC game. I want to throw baneblades at the thing so much lol. Maybe 7th edition or maybe just the next IG codex? (Baneblades are one of the few Apoc only units sold on GW web page and I've always wondered why it's only ever in APOC)

You already do. It's called Spearhead

Still waiting for strategic bombers. Maybe it's time to scratch build a 'Lorkcaster' quad engine flyer with mahreen-busta bombz?

I honestly don't mind the the bigger models, IN MODERATION. It does seem like GW is pushing toward a saturation point that will kill the setting.

I love the idea of enjoying the larger models, but I really like the idea of keeping Apocalypse seperate to enjoy as a spin-off. The idea of cluttering an already forced ruleset, with flyers being introduces, with super heavy tanks seems like it would be painful for 6th.

 BryllCream wrote:
A baneblade can probably kill its own points worth in a single turn of shooting. When you factor in that it's very hard to destroy in a normal game of 40k, it'd definitely be way OP as-is.

I've played 7 or 8 apocalypse games. Each has had at least 2 baneblades. It's rare to see one take out more than a land raider and a unit of troops in a turn. Can it kill that much? Sometimes. Rarely. Maybe.

Personally, the most damage I've ever seen a Baneblade do is when they've suffered an apocalyptic explosion, and it was mostly their own units they destroyed.

However, I'm still not sold on Super Heavies in normal games. I'd rather they remained "special" in Apocalypse and Planet Strike or other add-on games.

Saw a few games at the club with Banblades - our Tau player killed them before they even got to fire :( (old codex).

Played a 1500pts plus Stompa vs 2000pts plus Baneblade (*) which was good fun........and had no real issues.

(*) I thought we were playing 1500 - when we playing 2000 - Doh!