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Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

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 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

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I don't think anything from The Dark Knight Trilogy will be used; it is a self contained universe and story never intended as part of some greater DC universe.

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Thanks to this thread I looked up and watched the animated The Dark Knight Returns Part 1. Will definitely have to watch Part 2 now as well.

 
   
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Thanks to this thread I looked up and watched the animated The Dark Knight Returns Part 1. Will definitely have to watch Part 2 now as well.


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 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

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Last week was going round that Marvel wanted him to play Dr. Strange.

I reckon the title is somewhat misleading.

I'm sure they'll have a misunderstanding or two, and each will have the advantage over and have to save/be saved by the other x number of times.

The versus will be a set up by Luthor/similar and the obligatory thematic examination of their their somewhat opposing philosophies, light versus dark, trust versus fear blah blah but at the end of the day more in common/agreement than in disagreement and hey a loo a flag ! etc etc.

For me I'd have an enraged Luthor unleashing all types of gimmicks etc on Supes to study him and also have him trying to frame him for evildeed#123, which leads to Bat's investigating -- he can even figure out the ( not so ?) secret identity -- I'm assuming from the end of MoS that Perry and a couple of the others at least are truly in the know about Clark being a cover story, he helped them, he's good to ahve around etc etc .

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 reds8n wrote:
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

~Tim?


Last week was going round that Marvel wanted him to play Dr. Strange.

I reckon the title is somewhat misleading.

I'm sure they'll have a misunderstanding or two, and each will have the advantage over and have to save/be saved by the other x number of times.

The versus will be a set up by Luthor/similar and the obligatory thematic examination of their their somewhat opposing philosophies, light versus dark, trust versus fear blah blah but at the end of the day more in common/agreement than in disagreement and hey a loo a flag ! etc etc.

For me I'd have an enraged Luthor unleashing all types of gimmicks etc on Supes to study him and also have him trying to frame him for evildeed#123, which leads to Bat's investigating -- he can even figure out the ( not so ?) secret identity -- I'm assuming from the end of MoS that Perry and a couple of the others at least are truly in the know about Clark being a cover story, he helped them, he's good to ahve around etc etc .

Mark Steel for Luthor for me, turns out he's been in contact with Braniac or Solaris all along of course, who can be the bad guy in the next film/ JLA movie.


Yeah Gordon might be playing Doctor Strange so he may be out of the batman mix. If Warner Bros offered Bale a Downey paycheck he could come back. But if Bale doesn't come back we we might finally get away from IM BATMAN in a low groggy voice all the time

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But if Bale doesn't come back we we might finally get away from IM BATMAN in a low groggy voice all the time


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 pities2004 wrote:
 reds8n wrote:
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

~Tim?


Last week was going round that Marvel wanted him to play Dr. Strange.

I reckon the title is somewhat misleading.

I'm sure they'll have a misunderstanding or two, and each will have the advantage over and have to save/be saved by the other x number of times.

The versus will be a set up by Luthor/similar and the obligatory thematic examination of their their somewhat opposing philosophies, light versus dark, trust versus fear blah blah but at the end of the day more in common/agreement than in disagreement and hey a loo a flag ! etc etc.

For me I'd have an enraged Luthor unleashing all types of gimmicks etc on Supes to study him and also have him trying to frame him for evildeed#123, which leads to Bat's investigating -- he can even figure out the ( not so ?) secret identity -- I'm assuming from the end of MoS that Perry and a couple of the others at least are truly in the know about Clark being a cover story, he helped them, he's good to ahve around etc etc .

Mark Steel for Luthor for me, turns out he's been in contact with Braniac or Solaris all along of course, who can be the bad guy in the next film/ JLA movie.


Yeah Gordon might be playing Doctor Strange so he may be out of the batman mix. If Warner Bros offered Bale a Downey paycheck he could come back. But if Bale doesn't come back we we might finally get away from IM BATMAN in a low groggy voice all the time


They probably won't give him Downey money though, just because RDJ was almost single-handedly responsible for lifting that character from the "C" list to the "A" list. Put anyone else in that role, and Iron Man isn't nearly as big of a franchise (movies or merchandising), the Avengers movie isn't as fun, and there aren't even multiple Iron Man comic books in stores. It's kinda insane how much money he's made Marvel.

But hey, it's not my money. So I say pay the man.

And yeah, I think putting Gordon-Levitt in the role is too confusing, and misses the point. He wasn't supposed to be the new Batman in movies going forward, he was just the new Batman within that universe. In these new movies, Bruce Wayne will be Batman...whether that's Bale or someone else only time will tell.

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 gorgon wrote:
 pities2004 wrote:
 reds8n wrote:
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

~Tim?


Last week was going round that Marvel wanted him to play Dr. Strange.

I reckon the title is somewhat misleading.

I'm sure they'll have a misunderstanding or two, and each will have the advantage over and have to save/be saved by the other x number of times.

The versus will be a set up by Luthor/similar and the obligatory thematic examination of their their somewhat opposing philosophies, light versus dark, trust versus fear blah blah but at the end of the day more in common/agreement than in disagreement and hey a loo a flag ! etc etc.

For me I'd have an enraged Luthor unleashing all types of gimmicks etc on Supes to study him and also have him trying to frame him for evildeed#123, which leads to Bat's investigating -- he can even figure out the ( not so ?) secret identity -- I'm assuming from the end of MoS that Perry and a couple of the others at least are truly in the know about Clark being a cover story, he helped them, he's good to ahve around etc etc .

Mark Steel for Luthor for me, turns out he's been in contact with Braniac or Solaris all along of course, who can be the bad guy in the next film/ JLA movie.


Yeah Gordon might be playing Doctor Strange so he may be out of the batman mix. If Warner Bros offered Bale a Downey paycheck he could come back. But if Bale doesn't come back we we might finally get away from IM BATMAN in a low groggy voice all the time


They probably won't give him Downey money though, just because RDJ was almost single-handedly responsible for lifting that character from the "C" list to the "A" list. Put anyone else in that role, and Iron Man isn't nearly as big of a franchise (movies or merchandising), the Avengers movie isn't as fun, and there aren't even multiple Iron Man comic books in stores. It's kinda insane how much money he's made Marvel.

But hey, it's not my money. So I say pay the man.

And yeah, I think putting Gordon-Levitt in the role is too confusing, and misses the point. He wasn't supposed to be the new Batman in movies going forward, he was just the new Batman within that universe. In these new movies, Bruce Wayne will be Batman...whether that's Bale or someone else only time will tell.


Exactly, plus if Gordon is going to continue on in the world Nolan created for Batman I would hope it is as Nightwing.

I don't think they will need to reboot Batman since they just had three Batman movies recently, and a ton of other Batman movies, that have made it clear who he is and how he came to be. For the S/B movie they need to focus on how their stories end up connecting.

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 ProtoClone wrote:
 gorgon wrote:
 pities2004 wrote:
 reds8n wrote:
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
Bale's confirmed not to be involved. Nolan's executive producing.



I'm betting they'll have the guy who played Robin in TDKR cast as Batman.

~Tim?


Last week was going round that Marvel wanted him to play Dr. Strange.

I reckon the title is somewhat misleading.

I'm sure they'll have a misunderstanding or two, and each will have the advantage over and have to save/be saved by the other x number of times.

The versus will be a set up by Luthor/similar and the obligatory thematic examination of their their somewhat opposing philosophies, light versus dark, trust versus fear blah blah but at the end of the day more in common/agreement than in disagreement and hey a loo a flag ! etc etc.

For me I'd have an enraged Luthor unleashing all types of gimmicks etc on Supes to study him and also have him trying to frame him for evildeed#123, which leads to Bat's investigating -- he can even figure out the ( not so ?) secret identity -- I'm assuming from the end of MoS that Perry and a couple of the others at least are truly in the know about Clark being a cover story, he helped them, he's good to ahve around etc etc .

Mark Steel for Luthor for me, turns out he's been in contact with Braniac or Solaris all along of course, who can be the bad guy in the next film/ JLA movie.


Yeah Gordon might be playing Doctor Strange so he may be out of the batman mix. If Warner Bros offered Bale a Downey paycheck he could come back. But if Bale doesn't come back we we might finally get away from IM BATMAN in a low groggy voice all the time


They probably won't give him Downey money though, just because RDJ was almost single-handedly responsible for lifting that character from the "C" list to the "A" list. Put anyone else in that role, and Iron Man isn't nearly as big of a franchise (movies or merchandising), the Avengers movie isn't as fun, and there aren't even multiple Iron Man comic books in stores. It's kinda insane how much money he's made Marvel.

But hey, it's not my money. So I say pay the man.

And yeah, I think putting Gordon-Levitt in the role is too confusing, and misses the point. He wasn't supposed to be the new Batman in movies going forward, he was just the new Batman within that universe. In these new movies, Bruce Wayne will be Batman...whether that's Bale or someone else only time will tell.


Exactly, plus if Gordon is going to continue on in the world Nolan created for Batman I would hope it is as Nightwing.

I don't think they will need to reboot Batman since they just had three Batman movies recently, and a ton of other Batman movies, that have made it clear who he is and how he came to be. For the S/B movie they need to focus on how their stories end up connecting.


Well just because we KNOW who batman is, they need to set it up in the Man of Steel Universe.

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Well just because we KNOW who batman is, they need to set it up in the Man of Steel Universe.


Why? They don't need to waste the time on reintroducing Batman's background, again...in this universe he has been operating for a while and has finally gained the attention of Superman.

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in this universe he has been operating for a while


He has?

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Goyer's recent comments were that in the MoS universe, Clark was the first to put on a suit, and that he's the inspiration for others to come forward. If S/B picks up not long after the end of MoS, then Bruce may already be Batman, but probably not for very long.

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Christian Bale has reportedly been offered $50 million (£32m) to reprise his Dark Knight role in the upcoming Superman vs Batman film, despite having previously said appearing in the movie would be ‘greedy’.



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The Press Association's $50m figure stems from a comment in a new eBook titled Beyond Batman: The Unauthorised True Story of Christian Bale and His Dark Knight Dilemma, by Vincent Russel. It quotes a source from Legendary Pictures, which partnered with Warner on Nolan's films, suggesting the studio is determined to get their man.

The "insider" said: "Why would Christian Bale walk away from what is certainly going to be either the first or second highest grossing movie in the history of cinema? He could probably make 50 million dollars for being in the movie 20 minutes. And it would be worth every penny to the studio."


We don't know if he has been offered fifty million, just that some insiders and industry analysts believe he would be worth paying that much for.

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The Press Association's $50m figure stems from a comment in a new eBook titled Beyond Batman: The Unauthorised True Story of Christian Bale and His Dark Knight Dilemma, by Vincent Russel. It quotes a source from Legendary Pictures, which partnered with Warner on Nolan's films, suggesting the studio is determined to get their man.

The "insider" said: "Why would Christian Bale walk away from what is certainly going to be either the first or second highest grossing movie in the history of cinema? He could probably make 50 million dollars for being in the movie 20 minutes. And it would be worth every penny to the studio."


We don't know if he has been offered fifty million, just that some insiders and industry analysts believe he would be worth paying that much for.


Any news on this is still good news =)

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If they're going to keep it in the Nolanverse, they should have JGL doing Batman. If they're not going to have it part of the Nolanverse, I wouldn't want to see Christian Bale in the role anyway. I think he did a pretty good job, but he's done his Batman bit.
   
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If they're going to keep it in the Nolanverse, they should have JGL doing Batman. If they're not going to have it part of the Nolanverse, I wouldn't want to see Christian Bale in the role anyway. I think he did a pretty good job, but he's done his Batman bit.


Even out of the Nolan verse I think it would play better to the masses to have Bale. He is Batman now. Yes, somebody else played Batman a 10-20 years ago but he's now the one identified as Batman to the masses. And while Batman fans might be fine with him not being Batman it'll affect the movie grosses heavily overall if he isn't. If it was me I'd back the money truck up. It worked with Downey.

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Agreed. They've gone on record saying that it won't be in the Nolanverse, but that doesn't mean that Bruce Wayne wouldn't look like Christian Bale in an alternate universe, right? Clearly the box office would be best if Bale stayed in the role. So yeah, back up the Brinks truck. I remember reading how he spent a little extra time in the Batsuit the last time he wore it while filming Rises, just because he wanted to enjoy it one last time. So he obviously had some fun in the role. That's how I'd pitch it to him, really..."Come on, man...it'll be FUN. You'll make a mint and of course it'll be hard work. But it'll be FUN. Shoot man, we'll also throw a bunch of money at your favorite charity. That's how stoked we are about this whole thing."

Besides, Batman WILL be Bruce Wayne in any movie. Not some random, invented cop character. The point of that was that Batman would always live on within that universe, not that JGL would be Batman in any future movie.

Of the replacement candidates, Josh Brolin is the most interesting one to me. Of course, an issue there is how old he'll be by the time they get around to a JL2 or whatever. In other news, Bryan Cranston apparently wants a shot at playing Lex Luthor (assuming he's in the next film). But I think I like Mark Strong -- another rumored candidate -- a little better.

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If they're going to keep it in the Nolanverse, they should have JGL doing Batman. If they're not going to have it part of the Nolanverse, I wouldn't want to see Christian Bale in the role anyway. I think he did a pretty good job, but he's done his Batman bit.


Even out of the Nolan verse I think it would play better to the masses to have Bale. He is Batman now. Yes, somebody else played Batman a 10-20 years ago but he's now the one identified as Batman to the masses. And while Batman fans might be fine with him not being Batman it'll affect the movie grosses heavily overall if he isn't. If it was me I'd back the money truck up. It worked with Downey.

The other side of the coin is that Bale has gone on record saying that he is interested to see what the next Batman does with the role.

I think if Bale comes out in support of the next actor, it would be a bit easier for the 'newbies' to accept.
   
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Nah, I don't think Bale's seal of approval has anything to do with it. It's not the diehard fans that are the issue, it's all the casual fans who just think of Bale as the guy in the Batsuit now. They aren't going to be on IGN watching for Bale's comments about the movie. They're the ones who'll see the trailer and say "hey, where's Christian Bale, I thought he was Batman."

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Hulksmash wrote:
 Fafnir wrote:
If they're going to keep it in the Nolanverse, they should have JGL doing Batman. If they're not going to have it part of the Nolanverse, I wouldn't want to see Christian Bale in the role anyway. I think he did a pretty good job, but he's done his Batman bit.


Even out of the Nolan verse I think it would play better to the masses to have Bale. He is Batman now. Yes, somebody else played Batman a 10-20 years ago but he's now the one identified as Batman to the masses. And while Batman fans might be fine with him not being Batman it'll affect the movie grosses heavily overall if he isn't. If it was me I'd back the money truck up. It worked with Downey.

The other side of the coin is that Bale has gone on record saying that he is interested to see what the next Batman does with the role.

I think if Bale comes out in support of the next actor, it would be a bit easier for the 'newbies' to accept.



I think the issue is more one similar to Doctor Who... each new person to come into the role is "omg, I cant believe it! it's horrible! the last [insert character] was the best one" then the first episode/movie comes out and most people are like, "he/she is great, I love them as [insert character here]"

There'll be people who gripe and moan about an actor playing a role that is one of their favorite characters, and will ultimately adjust and come to like the new person.
   
 
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