Is there a way to make Mandrakes effective?

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**labmouse42**

Jancoran wrote:
Let me ask its detractors this: what are three good things you CAN do with Mandrakes? Because if you aren't willing to consider the possibilities, you cannot speak to the negative. and vice versa as well.

* You can outflank them
* You can infiltrate them onto an objective and join a hemi to them to some 'pew pew'
* You can use them to shoot/assault weaker 'choppa' units. 10 of them will kill 10 TACs when the mandrakes assault
* You can use them to harass back field units or vehicles with AV10 rear.
* You can use them as cool miniatures in your D&D game

**Jancoran**

labmouse42 wrote:
Jancoran wrote:
Let me ask its detractors this: what are three good things you CAN do with Mandrakes? Because if you aren't willing to consider the possibilities, you cannot speak to the negative. and vice versa as well.
* You can outflank them
* You can infiltrate them onto an objective and join a hemi to them to some 'pew pew'
* You can use them to shoot/assault weaker 'choppa' units. 10 of them will kill 10 TACs when the mandrakes assault
* You can use them to harass back field units or vehicles with AV10 rear.
* You can use them as cool miniatures in your D&D game

That last point was a good onee. Lol. They WOULD be awesome in D&D. And I do run a D&D game every other week...

**felixcat**

For the record I have always started my Mandrakes at the edge of my deployment zone, hugging cover when using them. You can deploy your Haemie first and then infiltrate your Mandrakes in cohesion strung out in front of them. Puts you forward with a Haemie without risk if you have cover. Generally there are better targets than stealthed Mandrakes turn one.

**ShadarLogoth**

Darn, I'm just tore-up from the floor-up as far as the rules go. Yer right I confused Wracks T4 with Mandrakes as well. But you know what if they can't even take a Raider then yea any argument I tried to make in their favor is void... but that means. Mandrakes, even with cool models ...are...trash...

At that point you need to pay webway portal and Haemoculus tax, then expose another HQ to drop the portal for like ...maybe.. 6 AP4 wounds? That is ...stunningly bad, like srsly worse than Mutilator bad ZOMG.

For the argument that they are a distraction unit, there's other units that can distract And actually pose a threat for less points (and I'm not even touching allies here). What a shame...

1.) Doesn't know the rules for Mandrakes and has clearly never used them.

2.) Despite this void in applicable knowledge, knows they are "stunningly bad, like srsly worse than Mutilator bad ZOMG"

God I love this place.

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labmouse42 wrote:
Jancoran wrote:
Let me ask its detractors this: what are three good things you CAN do with Mandrakes? Because if you aren't willing to consider the possibilities, you cannot speak to the negative. and vice versa as well.
* You can outflank them
* You can infiltrate them onto an objective and join a hemi to them to some 'pew pew'
* You can use them to shoot/assault weaker 'choppa' units. 10 of them will kill 10 TACs when the mandrakes assault
* You can use them to harass back field units or vehicles with AV10 rear.
* You can use them as cool miniatures in your D&D game

Great post man.

To bad they are finecast or else you could have added paper weight to the list. Stupid drakes can't even hold down a stack of paper efficiently.

**anonymou5**

I use them as "counts as" Incubi, Pink Horrors....I'm sure there's other uses....

**ShadarLogoth**

As I stated before, I find them quite adequate when maximizing on the rules they have. Choose the deployment option that will most complicate your opponents path to victory, shoot things far, assault things close, GtG if they get heavy fire, and stay in cover. I don't expect them to single handily table opponents, but I do expect them to succeed at the task I stick them on, and they generally do.

**RancidHate**

ShadarLogoth wrote:
Darn, I'm just tore-up from the floor-up as far as the rules go. Yer right I confused Wracks T4 with Mandrakes as well. But you know what if they can't even take a Raider then yea any argument I tried to make in their favor is void... but that means. Mandrakes, even with cool models ...are...trash...

At that point you need to pay webway portal and Haemoculus tax, then expose another HQ to drop the portal for like ...maybe.. 6 AP4 wounds? That is ...stunningly bad, like srsly worse than Mutilator bad ZOMG.

For the argument that they are a distraction unit, there's other units that can distract And actually pose a threat for less points (and I'm not even touching allies here). What a shame...

1.) Doesn't know the rules for Mandrakes and has clearly never used them.

2.) Despite this void in applicable knowledge, knows they are "stunningly bad, like srsly worse than Mutilator bad ZOMG"

God I love this place.

Uh... maybe a silly tone didn't come across...and I made earlier quotes trying to argue in their favor at first, really... ah well I gotta spend some more time reading the codex I guess... or I could fart.... or maybe both... lighten up

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labmouse42 wrote:
Jancoran wrote:
Let me ask its detractors this: what are three good things you CAN do with Mandrakes? Because if you aren't willing to consider the possibilities, you cannot speak to the negative. and vice versa as well.
* You can outflank them
* You can infiltrate them onto an objective and join a hemi to them to some 'pew pew'
* You can use them to shoot/assault weaker 'choppa' units. 10 of them will kill 10 TACs when the mandrakes assault
* You can use them to harass back field units or vehicles with AV10 rear.
* You can use them as cool miniatures in your D&D game

Great post man.

To bad they are finecast or else you could have added paper weight to the list. Stupid drakes can't even hold down a stack of paper efficiently.