"I'm sorry but I cannot tip because I do not agree with your lifestyle"... uh, about that

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**Bullockist**

Incidentally would lying be a possible reason to get a dishonourable discharge?

**djones520**

Bullockist wrote:
Incidentally would lying be a possible reason to get a dishonourable discharge?

It takes some serious fething up to get a DHD. SERIOUS.

**KalashnikovMarine**

A DHD means you are the civilian equivalent of a felon. You have all the same statuses in the civilian world too. From what that article said, she stopped showing up. Which would mean she went U.A. (Unauthorized Absence, the modern version of AWOL) so she probably caught her DHD for desertion.

**Bullockist**

I gather there weren't enough butch women in the barracks so she went AWL . Im not shocked that no male who she serverd as a waitress "wanted to give her a tip"

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Seriously, I'd really like to know how she got DHD.

**sebster**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
U.A. (Unauthorized Absence, the modern version of AWOL)

What prompted the change? About time for another acronym?

**dogma**

Bullockist wrote:
I gather there weren't enough butch women in the barracks so she went AWL . Im not shocked that no male who she serverd as a waitress "wanted to give her a tip"
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Well, that isn't chauvinistic at all.

**Ahtman**

**Alfndrate**

I'm terrible with the maths, so I tend to over tip for decent service, and I'm pretty easy to please as a customer because I know how rough of a job it is. So I tend to round up to the next dollar amount and then go 20% on that (so they get a little more than 20%).

On to the topic of this waitress though, it does seem like she was trying to play the sympathy card, which is despicable and harms others in her position (both lifestyle choices and job choices).

**Breotan**

sebster wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
U.A. (Unauthorized Absence, the modern version of AWOL)
What prompted the change? About time for another acronym?

UA has been around since at least the early 80s when I was in the Marines.

Still, given the dishonorable discharge, it is far less surprising that she'd pull a stunt like this.

**wowsmash**

I always tip unless the service was terrible. If you want tips then you have to know how to work the customers.

Leave your real life problems at home. When you clock in you put on the smile. Its not about you, its about the customers. Be social but not annoying. Remember there name's. And never, ever let there drinks run out. Timing is everything drinks, appitizers and main dishes. Check back with the tables to make sure everything is ok but try not to do it when the customers mouth is full. Consider yourself a butler like Alfred and you'll do fine.

Rule number one "its not about you"

Its an art and as such some people suck at it and that's ok. You need to find a different job.

**NeedleOfInquiry**

As the the BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge) she is alleged to have....

If you run away you normally get an administrative discharge, usually with either a general or other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) discharge characterization.

In my 22 years of service every case I remember where the guy turned himself in there never was a court-martial, they just processed them out, even those that missed movement for war.

As to those who were was caught and dragged back because of something else they did at the same time the case would be referred to trial by court-martial. In every case I remember unless there was a violet crime (had two scouts that robbed a bank just before movement to Haiti as an example) the member was allowed to request "discharge in lieu of court-martial," which means they agree to accept an other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) administrative discharge.

If she has a BCD she almost had to have done something that would have got her jail time in the civilian world.

**Bullockist**

dogma wrote:
Bullockist wrote:
I gather there weren't enough butch women in the barracks so she went AWL . Im not shocked that no male who she serverd as a waitress "wanted to give her a tip"
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Well, that isn't chauvinistic at all.

This coming from the guy who insisted that waiters were not his peers

Your use of chauvinism is misplaced anyway...

**Breotan**

And this little stunt bought our "honest above reproach" waitress a suspension.

http://news.yahoo.com/waitress-who-received-alleged-anti-gay-receipt-suspended-pending-investigation-205841873.html

Jay Busbee wrote:Waitress who received alleged anti-gay receipt suspended pending investigation

The New Jersey waitress who claimed she received an anti-gay message in lieu of a tip has been suspended pending an investigation.

Dayna Morales, a waitress at the Gallop Asian Bistro restaurant in Bridgewater, N.J., said that a couple who ate at the restaurant paid their bill but left no tip, saying "I'm sorry but I cannot tip because I do not agree with your lifestyle and how you live your life." Morales is gay.

However, the couple later came forward and provided their copy of the receipt to counter Morales' charges, along with a copy of the credit card statement indicating that the tip had been included. Now, the restaurant has suspended Morales pending its investigation into her conduct.

“Ms. Morales is currently not on our employee schedule while we are still working to complete our investigation," the restaurant wrote on its Facebook page.

Both the husband and the wife who ate the meal strongly protested the allegation that they left an anti-gay "tip," with the wife noting that she is left-handed and does not write like the receipt indicates, and the husband saying he did not vote for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie because of his opposition to gay marriage. Morales, in turn, has said the handwriting is not hers.

In the wake of the incident, Morales has drawn criticism from her co-workers. Morales, an ex-Marine, was reportedly discharged from the Reserve Corps in May under conditions other than honorable for failing to attend drills.

**whitedragon**

sebster wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
U.A. (Unauthorized Absence, the modern version of AWOL)

What prompted the change? About time for another acronym?

This explains the difference between AWOL and UA.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/awoldesertion.htm

**KalashnikovMarine**

NeedleOfInquiry wrote:
As the the BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge) she is alleged to have....

If you run away you normally get an administrative discharge, usually with either a general or other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) discharge characterization.

In my 22 years of service every case I remember where the guy turned himself in there never was a court-martial, they just processed them out, even those that missed movement for war.

As to those who were was caught and dragged back because of something else they did at the same time the case would be referred to trial by court-martial. In every case I remember unless there was a violet crime (had two scouts that robbed a bank just before movement to Haiti as an example) the member was allowed to request "discharge in lieu of court-martial," which means they agree to accept an other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) administrative discharge.

If she has a BCD she almost had to have done something that would have got her jail time in the civilian world.

A DHD is what she is purported to have received, not a Big Chicken Dinner.

**Bullockist**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:

A DHD is what she is purported to have received, not a Big Chicken Dinner.

I think you are born with ADHD you don't recieve it

.... though maybe ADHD does explain military personell on nights out .

**d-usa**

But according to the military spokesperson she was discharged administratively, and from talking with a lawyer friend who specializes in military things that means it could not have been a DHD.

**hotsauceman1**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
NeedleOfInquiry wrote:
As the the BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge) she is alleged to have....

If you run away you normally get an administrative discharge, usually with either a general or other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) discharge characterization.

In my 22 years of service every case I remember where the guy turned himself in there never was a court-martial, they just processed them out, even those that missed movement for war.

As to those who were was caught and dragged back because of something else they did at the same time the case would be referred to trial by court-martial. In every case I remember unless there was a violet crime (had two scouts that robbed a bank just before movement to Haiti as an example) the member was allowed to request "discharge in lieu of court-martial," which means they agree to accept an other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) administrative discharge.

If she has a BCD she almost had to have done something that would have got her jail time in the civilian world.

A DHD is what she is purported to have received, not a Big Chicken Dinner.

See this is why I decided not to join the military, All the acronyms.

**Seaward**

The Navy's at least make sense, like FASOTRAGRUPAC or MFHBCMA.

**Ouze**

Breotan wrote:
And this little stunt bought our "honest above reproach" waitress a suspension.

"Hand in your notepad and pen! You're off the force!"

"I don't care what you say, Sarge. I'm still going to waitress on my own time."

"You're a loose cannon, Morales!"

**Alfndrate**

Ouze wrote:
Breotan wrote:
And this little stunt bought our "honest above reproach" waitress a suspension.

"Hand in your notepad and pen! You're off the force!"

"I don't care what you say, Sarge. I'm still going to waitress on my own time."

"You're a loose cannon, Morales!"

"Someone's gonna get served if you keep acting like that!"

Did I do it right?

**streamdragon**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
A DHD is what she is purported to have received, not a Big Chicken Dinner.

?

**djones520**

Dishonorable Discharge.

As someone else said in here, it's basically on par of being convicted of a felony.

**streamdragon**

djones520 wrote:
Dishonorable Discharge.

As someone else said in here, it's basically on par of being convicted of a felony.

Sorry, should have added a

or something. My parents are both former military, so I know what the Dishonorable is.

For whatever reason the Dial Home Device from SG-1 immediately popped into my head when I read that post though.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Yeah the difference is a DHD in SG is a good and desireable item XD

**sebster**

whitedragon wrote:
sebster wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
U.A. (Unauthorized Absence, the modern version of AWOL)

What prompted the change? About time for another acronym?

This explains the difference between AWOL and UA.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/awoldesertion.htm

Interesting read, thanks

**Dreadclaw69**

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/12/99012-lesbian-waitress-faked-anti-gay-receipt-message-suspended-job-faces-criminal-charges/

New Jersey waitress Dayna Morales began an online furor around a receipt message she says she received from customers at her job. The image of the receipt went viral with the message scrawled, “Sorry, I cannot tip because I do not agree with your lifestyle and the way you live your life.”

There’s only one problem – she made it up.

The ex-marine was praised by LGBT advocates, who believed her story hook, line and sinker, until the family who had supposedly written the offending message came out and provided proof that they had never written it. So that’s awkward.

Since then, the restaurant began their own investigation into the matter, and have now suspended her:

“Ms. Morales is currently not on our employee schedule while we are still working to complete our investigation,” the Gallop Asian Bistro restaurant posted on its Facebook page, New Jersey 101.5 reported.

The LGBT advocate crowd was more than happy to trumpet Dayna’s victimization by evil bigoted customers, but they’re a lot more quiet these days. The exonerated family is choosing to remain anonymous, but the clues in the receipt leave little doubt that they didn’t write the remark.

And it gets worse for Dayna:

…Kerry Lawrence, a former federal prosecutor and White Plains criminal defense lawyer, told WTSP that Morales could face criminal fraud charges if it is proven that she made money off of what looks like a hoax. If she donated all the proceeds (Morales posted that she was donating to the Wounded Warrior project), she would most likely not be prosecuted.

A few days before Thanksgiving, it was being reported that Dayna would be donating a portion of the donations, not the complete amount:

Now Morales wants to help others by giving a portion of the donations to the Wounded Warrior Project to help injured servicemen and women, according to NJ.com.

“I plan — being a veteran — to send a portion of it to the Wounded Warrior Fund,” she told WNBC. “It’s great to see everybody’s support and I’m thankful for it, but it doesn’t excuse or change the fact that it actually did happen.”

It is disgusting that she would lie in order to give LGBT advocates another fake story to make America seem more bigoted, and then further, to benefit financially by it.

**Alfndrate**

Question for those that have served, she has a Dishonorable Discharge, and is an ex-marine. So, since she was given the boot doesn't that mean she's not a veteran?

**d-usa**

Alfndrate wrote:
Question for those that have served, she has a Dishonorable Discharge, and is an ex-marine. So, since she was given the boot doesn't that mean she's not a veteran?

There has been zero proof that she had a DHD, and according to a lawyer friend that specialized in these things it is impossible for her to have one based on the statements that were made by the military spokesperson.

**Alfndrate**

d-usa wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
Question for those that have served, she has a Dishonorable Discharge, and is an ex-marine. So, since she was given the boot doesn't that mean she's not a veteran?

There has been zero proof that she had a DHD, and according to a lawyer friend that specialized in these things it is impossible for her to have one based on the statements that were made by the military spokesperson.

I guess I missed the part where someone refuted KM's news article on the bottom of the last page. :-\