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Empire/Dwarf cannons will be the new top choice for Anti-Tank......

 Kosake wrote:
The idea is too stupid, even by GW standards.

Not at all. It makes perfect sense in a GW manner; it's a bizarre way in which to try and boost Fantasy sales.

We considered the idea a few times as kids, and would probably have played it if we could figure out the weapons/armour differences, we've also got Fantasy and 40K armies.

I could see it being a fairly restricted mini-game where you pit a squad of guards against a tribe of Lizardmen. You'd need to ban things from 40K with 2/3+ armour, and allow the Fantasy stuff free movement.

It's really the sort of thing that'd have been on White Dwarf of old, but in a £30 e-book. I'd totally play it (if it was in WD).

I have played very several enjoyable 40k/?fantasy scenarios with mostly 40k rules (especially with movement) - but it did include King Kong (a manifested Warp entity) versus a Stompa

If it was Fantasy army lists for 40k I would be very interested as I have large armies for WFB but don't really like the rules.

Ye, this would be a very very strange thing for GW to do. I COULD however see it as some WD only rules, but now way would this be a proper supplement.

If we assume that the OP is not trolling, I would guess this could possibly have come from the rumor we had a while back that the new WHFB edition is going to be much closer to 40k. Perhaps someone has got the wrong end of the stick, or there will be a bit in WD with crossover rules one of the weeks around the release date?

 insaniak wrote:

 VorpalBunny74 wrote:
The scale differences will be explained by the 40k figures being magically made large via a new Chaos Sorceress special character:

That's a little silly. Clearly the Epic units would just represent units that are further away...

Inevitable Father Ted reference:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0

Now, I imagine a generic fantasy army. Do try and tell me that not every single one of the lot would crap their pants when the first imperial Knight arrives. Giants are one thing. Giants with metal armour, a screeching living sword the size of a house and a flamethrower that can incinerate two regiments at a time is something entirely different.

Fantasy units have to be closely packed if I am not mistaken. Anything that can spam even small templates will be utterly devastating.

Chad Warden wrote:
Draigo went to the WFB world in a recent Black Library short story

there is foreshadowing

This is actually true... So now something like this does actually seem possible...

That would literraly be a disaster. Probably not going to happen fortunately, since the source is dubious at best. Still, I'm a bit scared, since the rumour for the "Ogryn arrived early " rumours as even more dubious. yet was point on.

Well they always said Sigmar was a lost primarch, maybe nagash is as well and we will finally see space marine legions number 2 and 11. Nagash and the legion of the damned and Sigmar leading the howling griffons.

Bad sign when even Natfka refrains to post this rumour

Tau+Eldar+Teclis

This will be the new meta.

 Skullvane_pants wrote:
[size=12]From a friend of mine who works at GW hq I have heard a troubling rumour about a new supplement coming out over the summer.

Apparently it's going to be a book of rules where you can play 40k armies against fantasy ones. From what I've heard the way it works is that all 40k weapons ignore fantasy armies armour where as 40k has no defence against magic. It sounds really cool I think it said it's called something like warp storm so I'm guessing it's something to do with the warp mixing the 2 words together.

That makes sense, right? Since those things are evenly aligned. After all, every guardsman has a lasgun and every grot a blasta, while on the fantasy side, each and every dwarf and goblin is armed with a magical weapon! Oh! You mean they aren't?

Dakka is far too polite to some types of people. On a completely unrelated note. I wonder if the vomit spewed by these models would count as magic?

 Azazelx wrote:

Spoiler:

 Skullvane_pants wrote:
[size=12]From a friend of mine who works at GW hq I have heard a troubling rumour about a new supplement coming out over the summer.

Apparently it's going to be a book of rules where you can play 40k armies against fantasy ones. From what I've heard the way it works is that all 40k weapons ignore fantasy armies armour where as 40k has no defence against magic. It sounds really cool I think it said it's called something like warp storm so I'm guessing it's something to do with the warp mixing the 2 words together.

That makes sense, right? Since those things are evenly aligned. After all, every guardsman has a lasgun and every grot a blasta, while on the fantasy side, each and every dwarf and goblin is armed with a magical weapon! Oh! You mean they aren't?

Dakka is far too polite to some types of people. On a completely unrelated note. I wonder if the vomit spewed by these models would count as magic?

But you could forge the narrative. Jervis will tell us how to play if and when this supplement appears!

It's be another tip-of-the-hat to RT and the old ways:

"The first version of Realm of Chaos is a two-volume publication by Games Workshop concerning the forces of Chaos. The hardback books contain background material and rules for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (1st edition), Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader and Warhammer Fantasy Battle (3rd edition)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Chaos_%28Warhammer%29

I remember Boltguns and power armour being on the gifts chart, for use in Fantasy.
But, that was when both 40k and WHFB had very similar stat-lines.

But, I'll also call "fake" to the rumours.

After the old WHFB Albion campaign, High Elves did get a power sword (ignored armor) and Dark Elves got a Power Claw (ignored armor, always struck last) as spoils

Herzlos wrote:

 Kosake wrote:
The idea is too stupid, even by GW standards.

Not at all. It makes perfect sense in a GW manner; it's a bizarre way in which to try and boost Fantasy sales.

I agree...as wacky as it seems from our standpoint, it makes perfect sense for GW and is in-line with their behavior.

I kinda like the idea tbh. Sure its very whacky but if its fun and gives a good game/laugh who cares.

Would love to pit a Carnifex or two up against a unit of Rat Ogres or a NecroSphynx. Or a Winged Tyrant VS a Dragon.
Pewpewpew!

Personally I think this would be awesome. Not as a consistent change to the way the game is played (surprise! Any army can take units of skaven now) that shows up in tournaments, but a small supplement that proposes an interesting way to spend an afternoon or two.

One of my groups plays with the Death World mission rules all the time-- these rules are never played in tournaments are other "serious" games, but they HAVE created hilarious results for some of our casual games. I'm glad these rules were created. I would be glad to see a fantasy vs. 40k supplement because I think it would be hilarious to tank shock a rhino into a few ranks of high elves.

I've been playing this game for 8 years and this is by far the silliest rumor I've ever heard in that time.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Bad sign when even Natfka refrains to post this rumour

Aannnndd thread.

 Theophony wrote:
Well they always said Sigmar was a lost primarch, maybe nagash is as well and we will finally see space marine legions number 2 and 11. Nagash and the legion of the damned and Sigmar leading the howling griffons.

No they didn't.

and both those Chapters were never Legions.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Well they always said Sigmar was a lost primarch, maybe nagash is as well and we will finally see space marine legions number 2 and 11. Nagash and the legion of the damned and Sigmar leading the howling griffons.

No they didn't.

and both those Chapters were never Legions.

Agreed

For starters- Howling Griffons are Ultramarines successors and Rowboat Girlyman is effectively their Primarch. Nagash is evil and Legion of the Damned are more than likely to be Fire Hawks chapter who again have Girlyman as their Primarch.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Well they always said Sigmar was a lost primarch, maybe nagash is as well and we will finally see space marine legions number 2 and 11. Nagash and the legion of the damned and Sigmar leading the howling griffons.

No they didn't.

and both those Chapters were never Legions.

Agreed

For starters- Howling Griffons are Ultramarines successors and Rowboat Girlyman is effectively their Primarch. Nagash is evil and Legion of the Damned are more than likely to be Fire Hawks chapter who again have Girlyman as their Primarch.

True, but there are 2 lost primary's so it is possible sigmas could be one.. His story of rising to power amongst the human of the whfb world would not be all that dissimilar from say Leman Russ on fenris. I agree that it sounds far fetched but from a business standpoint I could definitely see it happening. After all, look at Warmachine and Hordes. I would not be surprised if GW decided to at least create a link between the games to create more crossover business. Plus. Let's you get into the game without having to sink money into a new army, something you will probably end up doing anyway if you like. I doubt it will happen but if it did I don't think I would mind it as long as the rules weren't ridiculous.

Besides haven't they been trying to get the two rules sets to be more similar? I've been out of fantasy warhammer for years, but the little I heard were the rules were getting more like 40k. I could totally be off on this, but what if they make the rules work for both systems. Sure your not going to have marines phalanx up, but that's why there's skirmishing troops rules. This way GW can just have one rulebook to rule them all. It's far fetched, but so is this concept of fantasy and 40k blended on the table.

As for my aside on the two primarchs I just threw two chapters out there. Legion of the damned just felt right for nagash, and I really have no idea who would fit in with sigmar.

They could balance the game more by giving more points to the fantasy side. Easy to say that he 40k army is just the outriders that hav landed on he backwater world an have run into a formidable opponent.

They can just put a 2nd army lists in each codex/armybook. One for 40k and one for fantasy. Since they're adding in these new options they can even justify increasing the cost of each book to $75!

They'll add a fantasy detachment slot to go with your primary, secondary, ally, lord of war, fortification, Inquisition, legion of the damned, and knight detachments. If this rumor is true, I'll be a little disappointed.

 Brother SRM wrote:
I've been playing this game for 8 years and this is by far the silliest rumor I've ever heard in that time.

And yet once upon a time you could have Fantasy chaos gifts of 40K boltguns and and like, because there was crossover between the games. But this rumour today sounds utterly ridiculous as GW have spent years trying to make clear the Fantasy and 40K universes are entirely separate entities.

I cannot see anyway in which this would work well and, more importantly in GW's eyes, it doesn't sell any models so I really can't see this happening.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Well they always said Sigmar was a lost primarch, maybe nagash is as well and we will finally see space marine legions number 2 and 11. Nagash and the legion of the damned and Sigmar leading the howling griffons.

No they didn't.

and both those Chapters were never Legions.

Agreed on the Legions, however, for years it was the case that Sigmar was definitely not a Primarch (wink, wink) and remained so until around 3rd Ed 40K IIRC, and they began to distance themselves from it as they tried to separate the two systems and backgrounds.

As long as they are wasting time on converting rules between games, I'd much rather see a 40k Triumph & Treachery.

No no really this is totally legit, I heard this from a guy who knew someone who worked at Gw (high up). Honest.