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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 18:45:20
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Confessor Of Sins
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I would still adhere to step by step resolution giving them a bit more of an edge:
-Grand Strategy (Unyielding Anvil) picks 3 units: A B & C.
-Army contains 1 single C.A.Detachment
-Troops from said CAD get ObSec
-units A B &C now "claim objectives as if they were Troops" (which troops? - The CAD troops)
-"Claim" does not exist: they "control objectives as if they were Troops"
-units A B & C: "controls objectives even if an enemy scoring unit is within range of the objective marker, unless the enemy unit also has this special rule"
If they're on an objective with an enemy Elite, they control "even if an enemy scoring unit is within range".
If they're on an objective with an enemy Troop (CAD), they "unless the enemy unit also has this special rule" and the enemy troops control "even if an enemy scoring unit is within range" because your Unit does not have the ObSec rule.
Point out which rule i am breaking?
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 19:03:26
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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What happens when 2 opposing AU units are within 3" of an objective?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 20:53:40
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote:Fragile wrote: Happyjew wrote:Examples of Troops not claiming via ObSec?
Certainly. Any Troops that does not come from a Detachment with the Command Benefit "Objective Secured".
This would include things like the various Tyranid formations from Rising Leviathan, or more recently an Ork Warband from C: Orks.
So despite the fact we are talking about a cad, your giving examples outside that cad.
Why does the detachment matter? The rule makes no mention of detachments, armies, or special rules. The burden is on you to prove that they get ObSec.
My troops claim objectives with ObSec. Other units in my detachment do not.
My DK now "claims objectives like Troops." If he does not gain OS then he is not claiming them like Troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 21:15:03
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Fragile wrote:My troops claim objectives with ObSec. Other units in my detachment do not. My DK now "claims objectives like Troops." If he does not gain OS then he is not claiming them like Troops. Why not? Does the rule say they "claim objectives like your Troops", or does it say they "claim objectives like Troops"?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 23:50:43
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Confessor Of Sins
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FlingitNow wrote:What happens when 2 opposing AU units are within 3" of an objective?
"unless the enemy unit also has this special rule" applies to both. Just like 2 ObSec units meeting.
(Because they are using the same rule: AU)
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 09:42:32
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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BlackTalos wrote: FlingitNow wrote:What happens when 2 opposing AU units are within 3" of an objective?
"unless the enemy unit also has this special rule" applies to both. Just like 2 ObSec units meeting.
(Because they are using the same rule: AU)
So now they are allowed to use ObSec to deny as well? That is not what you were saying before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 13:03:38
Subject: GK Grand Mastery - Objective Secured?
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Confessor Of Sins
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FlingitNow wrote: BlackTalos wrote: FlingitNow wrote:What happens when 2 opposing AU units are within 3" of an objective?
"unless the enemy unit also has this special rule" applies to both. Just like 2 ObSec units meeting.
(Because they are using the same rule: AU)
So now they are allowed to use ObSec to deny as well? That is not what you were saying before.
No they are not using ObSec to deny (plus you do not deny with ObSec, it's simply a rule for when you control?)
They are using AU to stop each other from controlling?
I already said that they never have ObSec in the first place?
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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