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Thanks for posting TK, that was a tough game!

Basically weather the storm and hope enough of your stuff lives to claim objectives late game, pretty much worked out.

Just that one Daemonette cost you the game -- talking yourself out of it was a 2 point swing, unlucky.

Look forward to unit breakdowns and hearing what would you change if you did it over again.

Also I was under the impression that Psychic Shriek is 3D6 rolled by the casting player, then compared to your Ld, as it is not a Ld test. When you cast Shriek on FMCs with the Hemlock you only hit on 6s too, as Flyers don't get Skyfire in the Psychic Phase which is a bummer.

Anyway, nice job and great play with the Cheese Factory. I hope you brought a bottle of wine for each of your opponents, maybe some crackers too..

Cheers
Ibushi

Really? You can't choose to skyfire in the psychic phase? What about FMC's?

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Really? You can't choose to skyfire in the psychic phase? What about FMC's?

They wouldn't be any different

 ibushi wrote:
When you cast Shriek on FMCs with the Hemlock you only hit on 6s too, as Flyers don't get Skyfire in the Psychic Phase which is a bummer.

He's probably playing under the interpretation that Psychic Shriek, while requiring a too hit roll, doesn't actually have to hit. Hits only tell you how many dice to roll on your wound tests.

That being said, this isn't the place to debate that rule, just that he offering explanation of why it may have been done here.

Isn't Psychic Shriek a withcfire? If so you have to hit with that.
Also flyer hit other flyer and FMCs with full BS, also in the psy phase I assume, they can actually also hit FMCs with blasts.

Yah they hit on full BS .

So I agree that this isn't the place to discuss this at length, but after reading the rulebook it states:

FMCs that are Swooping "can choose whether or not to use the Skyfire special rule at the start of *each* phase."

Zooming Flyers "can choose whether or not to use the Skyfire special rule at the start of each *Shooting* Phase."

But if you play by the straight book rules, the Hemlock is allowed to shoot its D-scythes at FMCs as Skyfire blast weapons are allowed against FMCs. I think I've only played at one event where that was allowed though.

Likewise a lot of events probably let you just use Skyfire in the Psychic Phase as a Flyer, even though the BRB doesn't specify it's allowed.

Overwatch is an out of sequence shooting sub phase.

I was pulling for you TK !

 ibushi wrote:
So I agree that this isn't the place to discuss this at length, but after reading the rulebook it states:

FMCs that are Swooping "can choose whether or not to use the Skyfire special rule at the start of *each* phase."

Zooming Flyers "can choose whether or not to use the Skyfire special rule at the start of each *Shooting* Phase."

But if you play by the straight book rules, the Hemlock is allowed to shoot its D-scythes at FMCs as Skyfire blast weapons are allowed against FMCs. I think I've only played at one event where that was allowed though.

Likewise a lot of events probably let you just use Skyfire in the Psychic Phase as a Flyer, even though the BRB doesn't specify it's allowed.

The ITC explicitly disallows firing blasts at flyers, even if it is from a skyfire unit (it's in their FAQ). However, I believe that the Caledion, one of the larger GT's in the UK, allowed you to do so (I think).

 ibushi wrote:
Also I was under the impression that Psychic Shriek is 3D6 rolled by the casting player, then compared to your Ld, as it is not a Ld test.

This is correct--it's frequently misplayed because it actually was written as a Ld test in 6th, and essentially nothing else about the power changed, so people tend to overlook it. The vast majority of opponents will pick up dice and try to roll when I hit them with a Shriek.

While you'd think it's generally irrelevant who rolls the dice, there actually is a point--to Daemon players, at least. The dice being rolled by the owning player opens up the Shriek roll to potential Fateweaver re-rolls (or takes away that opportunity if we're the ones being targeted) so it's actually an important thing to keep in mind.