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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 06:05:04
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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The Dark Emissary, Truthsayer and Fenbeast (?) from the Albion campaign would be top of my list.
Gotta say, I can't for the life of me think how they're going to do this...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 06:09:22
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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So what are we thinking? Anything in the 2004/2005 catalog?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 07:29:05
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pre 2008 releases would be nice. Pre 2006 Empire State Troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 07:39:42
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Buttery Commissar wrote:There was something a couple weeks back where they did a single day re-release in metal for two OOP LotR sets.
I wondered if it was to avoid killing the value for collectors.
That'd be my one worry about going too deep into the back catalogue; killing off army values for folks who paid a lot.
I'm confident I speak for almost anyone who's ever tried to finish off an OOP army with ebay purchases when I say; sod 'em. Yes yes, it's all very sad that they paid a lot for something and along comes a rerelease they could have bought for a lot less, but at the end of the day there are two types of people making those purchases - people who really wanted them and were willing to pay that much, and people who paid that much in the hope of turning around and gouging even more money out of the previous person. The former got what they wanted at a price they were happy with at the time(and everyone's got stories of that time they bought something for X amount and then a week later found the same thing for sale on ebay/in a local store/by a mate for Y much lower amount, if it's not worth it to you at X don't pay X), and the latter would be quite happy to filch every penny they can from us without adding any perceivable value so they can hardly complain if the worm turns to our benefit can they.
If a handful of people ending up with buyer's remorse and a handful more scalpers out of pocket is the price of allowing the vast majority of people the chance to buy something they wanted but never got a chance to, then I call it a bargain.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 07:41:09
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
Groningen, The Netherlands
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Fiery the angels fell; deep thunder rolled around their shores; burning with the fires of Orc.
Armies:
Daemons: 5000+ points
CSM/Black Legion: 5000+ points
Deathwatch/Knights: 5000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 07:44:15
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Pretty sure this is just for all the models they moved into "Last Chance to Buy" over the last year or so. Maybe if that's successful they might offer older stuff, but I doubt they're bringing back the molds for things 10+ years old, for example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 08:00:29
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Yodhrin wrote:I'm confident I speak for almost anyone who's ever tried to finish off an OOP army with ebay purchases when I say; sod 'em. Yes yes, it's all very sad that they paid a lot for something and along comes a rerelease they could have bought for a lot less, but at the end of the day there are two types of people making those purchases - people who really wanted them and were willing to pay that much, and people who paid that much in the hope of turning around and gouging even more money out of the previous person. The former got what they wanted at a price they were happy with at the time(and everyone's got stories of that time they bought something for X amount and then a week later found the same thing for sale on ebay/in a local store/by a mate for Y much lower amount, if it's not worth it to you at X don't pay X), and the latter would be quite happy to filch every penny they can from us without adding any perceivable value so they can hardly complain if the worm turns to our benefit can they.
If a handful of people ending up with buyer's remorse and a handful more scalpers out of pocket is the price of allowing the vast majority of people the chance to buy something they wanted but never got a chance to, then I call it a bargain.
This. Speaking as someone who has paid way too much money for OOP FW models I would be very happy if they are available again. Keeping prices for OOP stuff high doesn't benefit me at all, it just screws over other people who might want to buy the same stuff. And getting OOP kits back into production might even give me the opportunity to buy more copies at a reasonable price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 08:12:01
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gotta agree with Yodhrin. I don't really want to say anything bad about Ebay and it's users but I have seen some horrid scalper moves like skyrocketing prices for said Last chance to buy models after they hit "sold out".
Also, would really like a chance to get Vostroyans as well. Big hats and antique guns are a beautiful mix.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 08:17:45
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Experienced Maneater
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Yodhrin wrote:
I'm confident I speak for almost anyone who's ever tried to finish off an OOP army with ebay purchases when I say; sod 'em. Yes yes, it's all very sad that they paid a lot for something and along comes a rerelease they could have bought for a lot less, but at the end of the day there are two types of people making those purchases - people who really wanted them and were willing to pay that much, and people who paid that much in the hope of turning around and gouging even more money out of the previous person. The former got what they wanted at a price they were happy with at the time(and everyone's got stories of that time they bought something for X amount and then a week later found the same thing for sale on ebay/in a local store/by a mate for Y much lower amount, if it's not worth it to you at X don't pay X), and the latter would be quite happy to filch every penny they can from us without adding any perceivable value so they can hardly complain if the worm turns to our benefit can they.
If a handful of people ending up with buyer's remorse and a handful more scalpers out of pocket is the price of allowing the vast majority of people the chance to buy something they wanted but never got a chance to, then I call it a bargain.
It's fine if people 'collect' the GW miniatures, but for the vast majority, it's about the games. I also buy models I don't need because they are cool and I like to have them, but if it's OOP am I paying ebay "collector" prices? Nah, I send my money to China.
Just yesterday I saw a single new in box Necroshpinx on ebay for 140€. feth that, man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 08:49:01
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yeah, hoarding and artificially pushing prices up can do one, in general, in most aspects of everything.
I doubt GW, that makes nothing from resales, would give two hoots about damaging a secondary market. Now, cashing in on it via casting their own OOP models? NOW you're talking...
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 08:59:33
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Mutating Changebringer
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I'm sorry to be off topic but for those of you that want Diaz Daemonettes and Seekers....
I have a small mountain of them in the Swap Shop.
If I could get some out dated/ out of production models I'd like to get my hands on the Skulls mechanicum guys, Guants Ghosts and the old Ork Warboss.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 09:33:03
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Otiose in a Niche
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I started a wish list thread. Let's keep that sort of comment there and confine this one to news or rumors on what the program will be.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/704637.page#8946246
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 10:10:27
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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They'll probably start with recent stuff that went OOP as that will be easiest to do and maybe extend it to earlier stuff if it works. Makes sense that they make use of their back catalogue if they can make it work. Maybe bringing back specific sets for a limited time, cycling through the catalogue rather than having thing available all the time. Interesting..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 10:38:54
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Courageous Grand Master
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Two quick points:
1) I may be wrong (I usually am  ) but didn't GW destroy the moulds for a lot of their old miniatures some years ago? Thus making these wish lists moot?
2) If this news had broke 5 years ago, I'd be seriously mad, but I'm not, because I sold a ton of old citadel miniatures back then: citadel townsfolk, chaos thugs, citadel furniture. I even had an old citadel assassin.
To cut a long story short, I made my money, maybe dakka members gave me that money, and this news doesn't bother me Automatically Appended Next Post: silverstu wrote:They'll probably start with recent stuff that went OOP as that will be easiest to do and maybe extend it to earlier stuff if it works. Makes sense that they make use of their back catalogue if they can make it work. Maybe bringing back specific sets for a limited time, cycling through the catalogue rather than having thing available all the time. Interesting..
If they had giant 3D printers to make miniatures on demand, then this news would make sense.
But on a basic economic level, they'll not going to do one ancient squig miniature from 1985, on the off chance that some ancient gamer might want to complete his or her collection.
If you make or publish anything: books, DVDs, miniatures etc etc, there's got to be a minimum print run, otherwise it's not worth the time or money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 10:59:16
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Someone on facebook said they were scanning old molds...
Maybe 3d print on demand?
Or maybe just random notions from some guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 11:00:41
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
Warwick, Warwickshire, England, UK, NW Europe, Sol-3, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way
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I suspect this will simply be the things that have gone through Last Chance To Buy over the last couple of years since AoS came out.
To be fair that includes Tomb Kings, Bretonnians, and some other stuff that I'd like, so that's pretty cool.
But I really wish they'd go back to having a bits catalogue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 11:10:14
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Someone on facebook said they were scanning old molds...
Maybe 3d print on demand?
Or maybe just random notions from some guy.
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Surely they would start with a Master and not a mould of it?
I doubt 3d printing, they have a warehouse devoted to casting in various forms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 13:27:40
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Adeptus astartes on Facebook who occasionally has prerelease info is saying it is the entire back catalogue except limited editions. That is pretty amazing if true, though I am much more sceptical about this than I was about the initial rumour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 13:54:35
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Yeah my Cynicism Sense is tingling for that one.
Would be incredible if true, especially if it includes terrain and isn't so ridiculously expensive that you'd be as well just paying up to the ebay scalpers, but even with a gigantor markup I can't see how GW could offer literally everything they still have molds for.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 13:56:20
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Experienced Maneater
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Chikout wrote:Adeptus astartes on Facebook who occasionally has prerelease info is saying it is the entire back catalogue except limited editions. That is pretty amazing if true, though I am much more sceptical about this than I was about the initial rumour.
That would be absolutely crazy and I have no idea how GW could manage something like that while still making a profit and keep the price affordable. Would be great, though, and if GW can do it, all praise to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 14:02:59
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
Salisbury, UK
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It's not the entire back catalogue, Adeptus Astartes has got that entirely wrong, go look at GW Salisbury FB page and you'll actually see the original post, no where do they mention the entire back catalogue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 14:48:26
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Otiose in a Niche
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Chikout wrote:Adeptus astartes on Facebook who occasionally has prerelease info is saying it is the entire back catalogue except limited editions. That is pretty amazing if true, though I am much more sceptical about this than I was about the initial rumour.
Hope is the beginning of unhappiness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 15:19:12
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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The price point will also make or break this. If they do offer anything in the back catalog, but charge $30 for a mini (what they do for some clampack HQs) I suspect we’ll all just grumble and pass for the most part.
I recognize that we are not going to be getting ‘80s minis at ‘80s prices. Inflation alone is going to over double the price. But there is also going to be more overhead for smaller runs, rather then the normal mass production.
I just hope things can be reasonable...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 15:20:05
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Dakka Veteran
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Chikout wrote:Adeptus astartes on Facebook who occasionally has prerelease info is saying it is the entire back catalogue except limited editions. That is pretty amazing if true, though I am much more sceptical about this than I was about the initial rumour.
Hope is the beginning of unhappiness.
Thought for the Day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 15:39:23
Subject: Re:Games Workshop made to order
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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KalexKurosaki wrote:It's not the entire back catalogue, Adeptus Astartes has got that entirely wrong, go look at GW Salisbury FB page and you'll actually see the original post, no where do they mention the entire back catalogue.
Who says they have the same source?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0002/10/01 15:09:15
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Cowboy Wannabe
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How far back and how much this costs are really what will drive my interest in this. Copplestone IG for $3 each? My wallet unleashes a flood of cash to GW.
Plastic figures for recently defunct Fantasy lines at 1.5x the original price, eh, probably pass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 15:53:56
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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I can't see any circumstance where GW will do plastic kits on an on-demand basis. They will have 4 or 5 production lines set out to cover their existing lines, this just isn't something you interrupt, spam out a few sprues of some old kit, then restart the main production run.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 16:01:17
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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notprop wrote:I can't see any circumstance where GW will do plastic kits on an on-demand basis. They will have 4 or 5 production lines set out to cover their existing lines, this just isn't something you interrupt, spam out a few sprues of some old kit, then restart the main production run.
If the demand is there, I could see them do it though. How many people would put cash down for RTB01s, out of sheer nostalgia? I suspect there is enough demand there to warrant time on the production line. Even if they went with some of the more extreme squad pricing (like $50-60 for 10 guys) If they priced them the same as a normal tac squad, I think they would sell as fast as they could make them, at least for a while. If they sold 30 marines for $20, they would break the machines trying to keep up. But that’s flashing back a little too hard to the 80’s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 16:37:48
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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It will just be a rerun of the last chance to buy models that sold quicker than expected,
Please prove me wrong gw
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/06 17:16:35
Subject: Games Workshop made to order
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nevelon wrote:The price point will also make or break this. If they do offer anything in the back catalog, but charge $30 for a mini (what they do for some clampack HQs) I suspect we’ll all just grumble and pass for the most part.
I recognize that we are not going to be getting ‘80s minis at ‘80s prices. Inflation alone is going to over double the price. But there is also going to be more overhead for smaller runs, rather then the normal mass production.
I just hope things can be reasonable...
If things are priced anywhere close to current prices, we might be OK. Squads of 10 men for $45 /set, for example.
OTOH, if it's $30/model, eBay would be cheaper.
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