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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think it is a matter of tactical play that (no offense to FEC players) they haven't particularly needed before. Against Slaanesh FEC really need to consider where when and how they engage, unlike many other armies where they just point and click.

What would you call tactical engagement then? Anywhere that's not within 6" KoS and anything with a regular hero nearby is also kind of risky...

Because I'm just seeing a model that forces a 2+ ASL before every fight phase (my NH at least have to get an 18" range, counterable spell off to do something similar), while hitting quite hard and even if it somehow is killed without doing anything, it'll generate 1/3 of it's cost back in summoning points.... for 360p. That's kind of bonkers.

Thats why for my for fun narrative list i only run one keeper.

How many points is that list?

So, I kept being gifted random KoSs (older models). I bought one back in fantasy 6th and have like three extras (one is unusable parts now). Plus I have a converted one that needs its legs finished to be the size of the new one. And I have one new one and Shalaxi. The insane thing is that I can actually have the three big ones on the field and reliably expect to summon the other three smaller ones in a regular game. That’s bonkers. The only reason I didn’t have more in my game was that I didn’t bring enough with me (plus I wanted to try out Chariots as it was my first game with HoS).

How many points is that list?

2000 pts.

I own the new one, the forgeworld one, and a creature caster one, plus i can use the wet nurse from kingdom death as one. However for casual fun games I'm not fielding more than one unless my opponent starts bringing the adepticon lists.

 Elmir wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think it is a matter of tactical play that (no offense to FEC players) they haven't particularly needed before. Against Slaanesh FEC really need to consider where when and how they engage, unlike many other armies where they just point and click.

What would you call tactical engagement then? Anywhere that's not within 6" KoS and anything with a regular hero nearby is also kind of risky...

Because I'm just seeing a model that forces a 2+ ASL before every fight phase (my NH at least have to get an 18" range, counterable spell off to do something similar), while hitting quite hard and even if it somehow is killed without doing anything, it'll generate 1/3 of it's cost back in summoning points.... for 360p. That's kind of bonkers.

It's really difficult to say because it depends on what the board looks like and where the models are. But I am not at all suggesting that the KoS isn't OP.